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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:40 AM
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Teevee Ad Spot Idea
This web posting http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/06/29/words-to-remember has been cited in a number of DU posts, like this one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4174288

It listed a whole series of quotes from the RW wackos during the Kosovo thing.


“You can support the troops but not the president”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“ President…is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

“American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W. Bush

“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years”
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

“This is President Clinton’s war, and when he falls flat on his face, that’s his problem.”
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

“Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)



I think this would make a really, really great teevee spot for our side. The idea is quite simple ... a tad deceptive, but simple .....

A picture of the Saddam statue being pulled down - or any other picture or film clip from the War in Iraq™. If the statue pull-down, use the long shot that shows the US military doing the deed, and the near-complete absence of a 'crowd of cheering Iraqis'. Maybe a whole montage of stills or short, fast, high energy cuts of videos of the war.

Then play, as sort of voice-overs, clips of the above quotes. Video woven into the war clips would be better than audio-only, but audio would be fine.

Make no attribution. Just play the clips. No context. Just play the clips. No explanation .... just .... play .... the clips

Then sit back and see how these nutjob motherfuckers refute their own words.

They can't.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:08 PM
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1. I LOVED the Hannity quote
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 01:09 PM by Hippo_Tron
But it might be worth also playing what all of these people have to say about the Iraq War.
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Stil Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:15 PM
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2. Not just an tv ad
But fun to show to repub friends. ;)
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:56 PM
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3. probably best to leave out the bits blaming things on Clinton
The sheeple won't understand it and will take it to mean Iraq and Afghanistan are Clinton's fault.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:30 PM
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:22 PM
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6. I guess the symbolism is lost on you
Do you support the Iraq War?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:03 PM
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:05 PM
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11. .
:rofl:
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:21 PM
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14. "Along with democrats like Lieberman?"
Uh, he's a DINO. Give me the name of a REAL democrat. And the intel was wrong, which we would have known if we listened to the weapons inspectors and let them do their jobs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:32 PM
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:30 PM
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16. Dude, have you paid ANY attention to the news?
The Iraq intelligence was FAKE. About as real as Dick Cheney's heart. There were no WMDs, no nuclear material, no nothing. Just a broken-down Arab nation ruled by a dictator who posed no threat to anyone around him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:33 PM
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:34 PM
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25. Link Please?
:wtf: are you talking about?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:46 PM
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28. And by the way, just in case I miss your leaving, say hello to the Dodo.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:35 PM
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26. The intel was false.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 11:36 PM by Confound W
But you knew that of course. :eyes:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:36 PM
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7. And the situation is different how?
Oh yeah...we've now got almost 1800 dead servicemen and untold numbers (thank you Bush) of dead INNOCENT Iraqis...I can see the difference now.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:04 PM
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:05 PM
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10. Oh that's right. We had a "Democrat" President then...there's your
difference. Why the hostility???
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:18 PM
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:06 PM
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12. Can YOU explain the difference? n/t
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:26 PM
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15. Oh yeah, no hypocrisy here.
LOL!
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:30 PM
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17. really?
yeah, Clinton tried to help stop the ethnic cleansing, Bush wants the oil in Iraq.

The Repubs have been taking things out of context since Clinton
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:31 PM
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:32 PM
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20. Why not ask your President that? I'm sure there's a refinery fire
somewhere.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:32 PM
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22. .
:rofl:
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:43 PM
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27. War makes gas cost more. It's a war to take the oil off the market.
That's why Iraq with the second largest reserve of oil in the world, and Iran with the fourth largest reserve were so high on their invade and occupy list.

They grab the contracts for themselves and their friends and then they can restrict the flow of oil, raising the value of the rest of their reserves by trillions of dollars.

Wake up from your "High gas prices proves it wasn't for oil." propaganda trance.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:52 PM
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29. Bad logic ...

Easy answer.

If we went there for oil, why are you paying 3 dollars a gallong for gas?

We lost.

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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:53 PM
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30. Also getting Iraq back into OPEC was one of the first things done by Bush
on our entering the country.

Saddam had been selling too much oil and keeping prices down.

Dubya's Saudi masters, and the big boys in Houston were not amused by the oil glut.

Something had to be done.

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:32 PM
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21. Welcome to DU, smtpgirl!
Even though you've been here since 2001! :hi:
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:47 PM
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32. Dont post much.....
Just listen. I find that listening is more enjoyable
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:32 PM
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19. Oh, "different situations," eh?
The whole point is the hypocrisy of it all. I guess you, um, missed it. :eyes:
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:47 PM
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5. At last week's Little Rock Meetup
We talked about doing a series of short pieces called "Did You Notice?" The screen starts out smokey and clears to close-ups of people giving the talking points on an issue. The last shot is a symbolic image that would represent issue.

An example that we were working on was the possible draft, but I think the War Widows' Tax would be a good one. Or Social Security. Or the lies about WMD. But narrow it down to a few talking points.

Rather than put them on tv, simply do a bbq and beer, asking your guests for about 10 minutes of their time. After watching the short DVD, you can answer questions, hand out a flyer and request that anyone interested in having their own house party, see you.

ps. We were going to call it "Did You Know," but Lakoff says that people react badly to the phrase. Did You Notice is the title of this inititive. Wanna help?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:58 PM
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31. Absolutely, Positively Excellent !! Great effort. You Rock !!! n/t
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