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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:16 PM
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Jeremy Greenstock, attempts to publish damaging allegations about the Bush
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 01:19 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
administration's rush to war in Iraq.

I can't wait to read it!


IN TWO MINDS: Jan. 2004 file photo of the British special representative to Iraq Jeremy Greenstock (R) with his American counterpart, Paul Bremer, in New York. The two could never get along.
(REUTERS)


LONDON -- Frequented by heads of state, ministers and military leaders, the Ditchley Foundation has long been the pulsing heart through which the Anglo-American alliance flows.

Now, however, it is at the center of a political storm that threatens to strike at the ties binding the old allies, as its director, former British ambassador to the United Nations and special envoy to Iraq, Jeremy Greenstock, attempts to publish damaging allegations about the Bush administration's rush to war in Iraq.

Set in rural Oxfordshire, the 18th century mansion house of Ditchley Park has welcomed a succession of distinguished visitors, most notably during World War II when it served as Winston Churchill's weekend headquarters.

Since its establishment as the home of the Ditchley Foundation in 1958 - with the objective of advancing Anglo-American links - it has hosted around 15 "intimate weekend conferences of decision-makers" each year.

"Small select groups" of no more than 40 "distinguished" senior figures from the worlds of politics, business and industry, academia, the civil service, the armed forces and the media, are invited to attend the low-key gatherings, where matters of international concern can be discussed in an open, strictly off-the-record forum.

Given the levels of secrecy surrounding this protectorate of the trans-Atlantic marriage, whose governors include former heads of state, the revelation that its director is involved in a battle with the British government over his attempt to publish private conversations with, among others, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his foreign secretary, Jack Straw, has come as a shock to many.

The Foreign Office has blocked publication of The Costs of War by Greenstock, a highly respected former diplomat who served as the British ambassador to the United Nations during the build-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq and as the prime minister's special envoy to Iraq in its aftermath.

In an extract seen and reported by The Observer newspaper on July 17, Greenstock describes Washington's decision to go to war as "politically illegitimate" and says UN negotiations "never rose over the level of awkward diversion for the US administration".

And though acknowledging that "honorable decisions" were taken to remove the threat of Saddam Hussein, he claims the opportunities of the post-invasion phase were "dissipated in poor policy analysis and narrow-minded execution".

During his time in Iraq following the fall of Saddam, Greenstock became disillusioned with the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) and its leader Paul Bremer. By the time he returned to London, his relationship with Bremer had deteriorated.

A CPA official told the Telegraph newspaper last year: "There was an understanding in the CPA that Bremer and Greenstock didn't like each other. It personified the differences between the two views. Greenstock thought Bremer was naive; Bremer thought Greenstock was pursuing the wrong policies."

Greenstock kept a diary as the security situation in Iraq deteriorated, and in his book is said to lay bare the inner workings of the CPA as it attempted to deal with the spiraling violence.

Officials who have seen the book are said to have been "deeply shocked" by the way in which Greenstock has quoted widely from the private discussions of the UN Security Council and "privileged" private conversations with Blair and Straw.

The exchanges are said to paint a rather unflattering picture of both politicians. He is also said to be scathing about Bremer and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who at the time of the Iraq war was President Bush's national security adviser.

"I think some people are really quite surprised that someone like Sir Jeremy has done this," one source told the newspaper. "In particular the way he has quoted private conversations with the prime minister."


more at
http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20050719-094851-8032r
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:21 PM
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1. okay...Greenstock was UK's Bremer...he work as equal to Bremer
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:32 PM
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2. Death by a thousand cuts for the BFEE.
And plenty of salt,don't spare the salt.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:41 PM
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5. Gasoline is just as painfull, but more poetic.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:59 PM
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6. I was going to say
Lemon Juice!
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:39 PM
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3. I'd love to read what he says about Rice.
Talk about naive!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:39 PM
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4. "...scathing remarks about Condoleezza Rice..."
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:40 PM by SpiralHawk
Does he mean "No one could ever have imagined planes flying into a building" Rice? She does merit a major measure of scathification.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:52 PM
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7. Thanks to People with a
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:56 PM by zidzi
conscience like Jeremy Greenstock we get to see the inside of the unseemly underbelly of the rove-cheney regime and no doubt, the blair's.

I can't wait for it to come out..all the more publicity since "The Foreign Office has blocked publication of The Costs of War by Greenstock".


But, is it going to get published in its entirety?

"The government's attempt to move the media and public focus away from Iraq has already been hindered by revelations of the attorney-general's uncertainty regarding the legality of the war. And unlike other insider accounts, such as that written by former International Development Secretary Clare Short, a left-winger who resigned over the Iraq war, Greenstock's book, coming from such a credible diplomatic source, cannot be dismissed as politically motivated.

The fact the onslaught is coming from the head of the Ditchley Foundation, the traditional guardian of trans-Atlantic secrets, will no doubt add to the ire of both Washington and London"




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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:57 PM
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8. It sounds as though he's seen HIS last honours-list mention!
There'll be no ermine for Sir Jeremy.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:15 PM
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9. Jeremy Greenstock, Please stay out of
isolated woodsy areas and small planes.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:40 PM
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10. great picture of ditchley park
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:40 PM
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11. do war criminials have a right to privacy? ->
"...quoted private conversations with the prime minister." if those private conversation lead to war crimes do they deserve to be kept private?

winston churchill has quoted and paraphrased many private and secret conversations in his various autobiographical and historical books about britain's government in the 1920-30-40 period.

it seems to be an honorable british tradition to divulge private conversations be people who ultimately betrayed the nation (think Chamberlain at Munich, "peace for our time")

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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