Who would you choose between Hillary & Barbara Boxer -in 08

[Imagevision]

[Mass]

1. Boxer, of course.

[lynettebro440]

12. Boxer

Hands down.

[samdogmom]

2. Hmmm.. No poll, okay, let me see..

Barbara Boxer! She says what she means and she means what she says...what can I say?

[bemildred]

3. Is this a trick question? nt

[Bullwinkle925]

4. I would be inclined to support Barbara Boxer myself.

[Clark2008]

5. I would support Barbara.

But, sadly, neither one would win in a general election, particularly since we'll still be at war (some war - Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea...).

[napi21]

6. Nope, gotta go with Hillary.

I love Barbara, and the way she fights for what she believes in, but I can't see her as our President.

I keep thinking back to the long ago days when other countries had women leaders. Thatcher, Gandi, and the like. I thought for years about what woman I had ever seen who would be able to be POTUS.

Although lots of you are going to call me insane, the first woman I ever watched, and heard speak, that I actually said, she could do it, was HIllary.

[Imagevision]

22. Hillary? yeah, she approves of Roberts she must already have the skinny

on him.

[Ian David]

7. Barbara Boxer, unless she declares Videogame Programmers a public enemy

I'm sorry, but that whole videogame nonsense has just poisoned Hillary for me.

I want Rockstar Games to write Grand Theft Auto: Capital City and include a Hillary-like character in it. And the character should perform oral sex if you download a patch from the internet(s).

[Blue_In_AK]

8. Boxer, of course. n/t

[election_2004]

9. Boxer, out of principle...

Because principles are something Hillary is seriously lacking.

[XemaSab]

10. Boxer

100%

[Pam-Moby]

11. Boxer here too

[postulater]

13. Boxer

[Finder]

14. Hillary

Boxer is great but...we need her where she is.

[election_2004]

15. We need Hillary to stay where she is too

Hillary is all but a shoo-in for reelection in 2006 to the U.S. Senate, and that's where she should stay.

Hillary Clinton has a long, prosperous Senate career ahead of her. :)

[Finder]

20. Well, I am not thrilled she voted for the war...

but who knows?

[election_2004]

21. Do you honestly believe....

....that the corporate media would create anything less than a three-ring circus of scandal to accompany 4-8 years of the administration of a President Hillary Clinton?

[Imagevision]

23. valid point. they never let up on Bill thru his 8 years and then

ther's always the Vince Foster thing just waiting for Limbaugh - Hannity to make horseshit out of that.

[Finder]

28. Well they will create that no matter...

who is nominated.

[election_2004]

32. They might try....

But some Democrats (Clark, Warner, Lincoln, Bayh) would be too squeaky-clean for the media to successfully tarnish them. The Ann Coulters of the world might try to manufacture something, but if it's based on outright lies then it will backfire miserably.

On the other hand, Hillary's past is already so controversial that it will be like throwing pre-packaged salted meat to a bunch of cannibals. Giving the White House to Hillary is just a disaster waiting to happen. The floodgates of sensationalism will be guaranteed to cascade open if Democrats try to shove the Clintons back into the White House.

[WhiteTara]

16. Barbara anyday over Hilliary, but

I'd rather see Jan Schakowski, Sheila Jackson Lee or Cynthia McKinny in front of either of those women.

[Seedersandleechers]

17. I want them both

And I don't care which one is the president, as long as one of them is vis-president.

[WhiteTara]

19. wouldn't it be wonderful? and

welcome to DU KCdemocrat :hi:

[newswolf56]

18. Hard choice. Boxer's politics are generally closer to mine...

-- her stand-up position on the Ohio election was especially courageous -- but I am closer to Hillary on the war, though absolutely opposed to Hillary's obvious desire to limit First Amendment protections. And I am in opposition to both women's zealous efforts to impose the forcible disarmament of the American public.

[hopein08]

24. Boxer Boxer Boxer Boxer Boxer Boxer...'nuff said n/t

[stillcool]

25. no brainer for me.....Boxer !!

[Justpat]

26. Boxer

[Greyhound]

27. Boxer, no contest. (biting tounge) n/t

[ScamUSA.Com]

29. Bill Richardson

or any _Southern Governor_

[Peace Patriot]

30. It won't matter who it is, if we have an election tabulated by Diebold and

ES&S with secret, proprietary software. Jeb will win.

Or maybe not. Our Corporate Rulers may have decided to let the Democrats try to clean up the colossal mess that the Bush Cartel has created, and, for instance, build a surplus back up, so they can loot it in 2012.

We will not get the President we want or need. We will get the one that is picked for us, who will best consolidate the enormous gains for Global Corporations and the rich that have been pushed through by the Bush Cartel despite huge majority opposition to every major Bush policy, foreign and domestic, way up in the 60% to 70% range.

We will get a President who will keep the U.S. military in the Middle East forever more--the one who can keep billions and billions of our dollars funneling to the war profiteers, who can improve cannon fodder recruitment, and is just a little more adept and competent than the Bush thugs (who are getting themselves tossed out).

We will get a President (like Hillary) who is more beholden to global pirates than to the American people, and a President (like Hillary) who, a) panders to the right on items like video games, and b) wants the corporate media to achieve a monopoly on violent imagery, games and stories, so that it can be used for jingoistic and propagandistic purposes (pushing global corporate product and political brainwashing), rather than the anarchic purpose of entertainment and release of tension caused by the contradictions and horrors of corporate-controlled life.

That's what we will get, if we don't throw Diebold and ES&S out of the election business, and return to paper ballots and hand counts, or, at least, in the meantime, achieve as much transparency and verifiability as we can, with paper ballot backups of electronic voting systems, strict automatic recount audits and strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming.

If you want a President who isn't chosen FOR you by rightwing electronic voting companies, join your local election reform group--or form your own--and get busy! Ordinary people still have some influence at the state/local level, where the power over election systems still resides.

And spread the word!

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Barbara Boxer for president. Howard Dean for vice president. Hillary for dog-catcher.

(Sorry, that's my opinion of Hillary. She and Bill can take NAFTA and GATT and the WTO and the World Bank, and go live in Mexico City, the most overcrowded, polluted city on earth, as a direct result of their sell-out to the Global Corporate Rulers--or maybe Ohio, or Kansas, or Michigan, vast wastelands of lost manufacturing jobs and lost family farms--or maybe Saipan where indentured slave girls sew Gap jeans, and are not allowed to go the bathroom, and are fired if they get pregnant, and are paid pittance wages for endless hours of repetitive, soul-killing work. I'm DONE with Corporate Democrats. No more! Fini!)

[lumpy]

31. Boxer

no problem

[Cookie wookie]

33. Boxer! Boxer! Boxer! n/t

[Donna Zen]

34. Boxer

If we don't support those who have the guts to support the truth, then why should anyone do it?

Falling into the trap of voting for people who consistently let our country down will not make us winners, it will only insure that those tasked with representing us, have no reason to do so.

The morning paper carried an article today: Green registration is up 27% in Maine. Now why do the Democrats think that is happening?

We need more Boxers, people who do their job.

[The Revolution]

35. Boxer

Don't even have to think about it.

[DrFunkenstein]

36. Why Do Women Always Get To Run Things?

Its about time men got a turn to show the world what they can do.

[BlueIris]

37. Gimme Barbara "I Have A Spine" Boxer any day.

I mean, I still love JK the best, but if it can't be him, I'll take her, Clark or Feingold NOW. She's great.

[TriMetFan]

38. I agree with samdogmom.

Barbara Boxer says what she means and does what she says. But I would vote for Hillary if she was the Democrat pick. Hell I would vote for just about any one that was not a republican at this point.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

39. Boxer. No contest.

I would vote for Hillary (as opposed to Frist-Mengele or Jebbie), but not happily. She'd be a disastrous choice. Boxer, OTOH, is way cool, and NOT a DLC whore.

[genius]

40. Boxer. No contest. I won't vote for Hillary.

[nicknameless]

41. Egads! Boxer, of course!!!

No DLC-ers if there is any other choice!

[SeanQ]

42. Boxer!

[nookiemonster]

43. Boxer, without a doubt.

n/t

[Tesha]

44. Boxer, faster than you can say "actually stands for something!" (NT)