Anyone catch Anthony Miller on CNN. The grieving father of bombing

[saracat]

victim (Egypt)says daughter's death in Egypt reinforces his belief in Bush. He says his daughter "loved" this president and his beliefs and that we need to keep up the Iraq War! Obviously his daughter's life was only important as a political statement for Bush. He certainly hasn't been influenced by her loss.And these are the people we are supposed to reach out to, and these are the people we think will "wake up" ? Right.

[bertha katzenengel]

1. Grief

sucks.

[saracat]

3. I don't think his grief is the explanation for this. We all react

differently it is true but his reaction is proof of brainwashing and ideology NOT grief.It is chilling that he would interpet and use the death of his daughter in this manner.

[Windy]

6. And Kyra went right along with the propaganda and agreed.

sad

[saracat]

10. It amazed me how outspoken she was.She called all the bombers

"cowards". She initiated the phrase and the defense of Bush. I remember when anchors weren't supposed to editorialize.They were just supposed to "report" with no opinion inserted. She should be fired.

[bertha katzenengel]

13. I wasn't referring to his reaction. I was saying that grief sucks.

I wouldn't much care for people shitting all over me because of my politics when my child has just been fucking bombed to hell.

[saracat]

15. Hmmm. But I take it his politicizing the death of his daughter is

acceptable? I guess one could argue that it is "his"daughter and he has the right to express whatever feelings he wants but I just don't think it is a "normal" reaction to praise any world leader and use your childs death as propaganda when she has just"been fucking bombed to hell", but we may think differently.

[bertha katzenengel]

16. Saracat.

Did I say anything about what the father said? Are you clear now that I'm referring strictly to your commentary on this issue?

To be perfectly clear: I can't believe that progressives and liberals have so little compassion as to take ANYTHING from this situation -- even the father's own comments -- as a reason to jump on the trampoline yet again and scream "WE HATE BUSH AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM!"

As if we didn't already KNOW this.

If it were a liberal's child, and the parent did the same thing in reverse (i.e., criticized Bush and blamed him for the death), Freepers would be reacting the exact same way, also in reverse. They'd be all over their site yelling about what an evil person the parent is, etc., etc.

How does it feel to act like a Freeper? So much for liberals having more compassion.

[saracat]

18. I realize you refer to my commentary and I defend my commentary.

I think it is out of line to indicate I am acting like a freeper. I never alter my perception of issues due to circumstance of death. Some members of my family have died that were not wonderful people, and they were not any more wonderful as the result of dying. I would not look for nice things to say merely because they are dead. Mr. Miller's comments are no more acceptable because his daughter has died. I do not make an exception for his loss. His statements stand as do mine. In my opinion, Mr. Miller is the party not expressing any grief for the senseless death of his own child or her friend. And I defend my right to think that is odd.
As far as your example goes, any parent would be correct in trying to affix blame and if the freepers were to criticize that point, they would be incorrect.There is absolutely no correlation between my remarks and your hypothetical freeper response. I am criticizing him for not asking "why" or affixing blame!
And as far as compassion goes, where is the expression of condolence for the friend, Carrie ,that was killed with her, and what do the father's political beliefs have to do with these deaths? How do you suppose the parents of the other girl feel? And what if they do not espouse the same beliefs?

[clydefrand]

2. What has the bombing in Egypt got to do with our invasion

of Iraq 2 years ago? I heard him just a few minutes ago. Yes, the bombers may be "cowards" as he called them; but our invasion of Iraq does nothing to help his situation.

[Bucky]

17. The connection is this -- by invading Iraq, we made al Qaeda more credible

People plagued by chronic poverty are often susceptible to extremist ideas that promise to reempower them. Al Qaeda's loony hate-the-west teachings make a lot more sense if you know that the US in fact used lies to launch an oil grab of a fellow Islamic country. They seem prophetic for predicting a cataclysmic showdown between "The Base" and the Great Satan.

Bin Laden's dream has always been to unite Sunni Islam under himself and purify the holy lands. And now--thanks to Mr Bush and his amazing neocon system--all his dreams are coming true! Lord, it sounds like a real estate investment seminar from hell.

So, yes, the Egypt attack has a lot to do with the Iraq invasion. The war has made the world a more dangerous place.

[movonne]

4. Was the daughter and father American??? They probably hired

this guy to say that...What is wrong with these people...

[saracat]

5. They were American. Her best friend died as well.

[brainshrub]

7. Was she a soldier or a tourist?

I don't know all the facts, but it seems that mostly tourists and locals were killed in the blast. She was probably on vacation when the bomb went off.

If the father wants to use his daughters death in Egypt to justify war in Iraq, he's thinking like a typical Freeper.

[saracat]

9. Tourist. It was her birthday as well.

[gulfbreeze]

8. you don't question at first...

It's weird but when your child dies you are in such a state of denial and shock. It takes years to come even close to what has really happened. To grasp that your precious child is really, really gone and will NEVER, EVER come back. But questioning will come, I promise. We will hear a different note from many parents whom, at this time, don't want to think their child died in vain. This thinking is just helping them get through the pain right now.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Welcome to DU. I wonder.. have parents of kids who were proud that

their kids died in Viet Nam ever changed their minds about that?

[saracat]

12. I disagree. We have lost several children in my family and the first

reation was always"why?". This guy was a Bushbot. Very odd. I am sorry about his daughter and I am sorry for his family but I just don't get his reaction. It isn't normal at all. Even soldier's mothers generally curse the war that killed their child!

[gulfbreeze]

14. you're right....Why? comes first

But in the midst of grief, you do try to come up with some excuse so that their death does not seem to be in vain. I cannot speak for all bereaved parents but I know it's true for many. The logic of Bereaved Parents who have swallowed the the bush doctrin will eventually unravel when the initial "answer" to their "WHY" quits working. It just takes a while. While bereaved parents who have always seen the reality of this war will not go through this process as long (or not at all), as we've seen from the gold star families.

[Vinca]

19. I feel sorry for Mr. Miller, but his statement makes no sense at all.

His daughter would be sunning herself on the beach if Bush hadn't gotten just about all parts of the world cranked up in his quest to find WMD . . . or was it get rid of Saddam . . . or was it the democracy spreading thing?

[RayOfHope]

20. I saw an interview with him earlier this afternoon

he was being interviewed by phone by Kyra whoever (can't remember if that's her name). He made a BIG point of saying she supported bush and "what we were doing over there". He also said they had discussed many times, as a family, the war on terror. This was no statement made out of grief, they are full fledged bushbots.