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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:25 PM
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Poll question: How much WORSE is BushCo today than you predicted they would be?
I thought Bush would be horrible, and I discussed it with every Republican I know. I never dreamed how bad the reality of BushCo would be just 5 years later. It's just stunning how evil they are.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:30 PM
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1. Hmmm
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 04:30 PM by RobertSeattle
Bush being a humble, thoughtful, selfless, Christian man, I thought he'd be better than this, but then I realized my premise was complete Bullshit.

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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:32 PM
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2. I picked infinitely worse, but that's not quite it.
Infinite in the sense that it's going to take a long, long time before the rest of the world respects us again like they have in the past.

Infinite in the sense that we really don't know how many generations to come will be left holding the bag of economical tricks * dealt us.

Mabye the worst of all, infinite in the sense of how long it will take US citizens to trust our own government again.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:34 PM
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3. Certainly there are some things I expected, but
I didn't expect constant threated war...everywhere!

I didn't expect he would try to gut SS.

I didn't expect THEY would undermine the CIA.

I didn't expect they would turn the entire world against the US.

I didn't expect they would promote outsourcing of our jobs.

I didn't expect HE would hire his entire administration from his daddy's crowd!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:37 PM
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7. It's not just Social Security
They've sabotaged Medicare with the drug benefit. They've killed public schooling with No Child Left Behind. They're eliminating any kind of work safety. They're putting the Robber Barons back in charge. The idea is to return us to the turn of the 20th Century. We need Teddy Roosevelt!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:36 PM
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4. Not only worse than I imagined
Worse than I could imagine.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:37 PM
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5. Multiply everyone who has died or lost a famiily member due to his actions
by 1 and thats how much worse he is then I thought he would be.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:56 PM
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21. Where...
...did you get this great picture of Dean? It is excellent!

-Paige
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:25 PM
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27. It was in the New York Metro awhile back...
I was checking out the site to see if there was anyway I could get a copy of the photo but no suck luck.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:37 PM
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6. Never In My Darkest Nightmare
could I have imagined one tenth of the horror of this regime.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:38 PM
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8. Bush Has Met All My Expectations For Him.....
Congratulations to the worst President ever to hold the office!!!!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:47 PM
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9. Just like a democrat was in office
(Sarcasm for those who say there is no difference)
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:49 PM
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10. I voted 2 times worse
but I guess my answer is based on my original prediction...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:02 PM
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11. well, I predicted relatively long in advance, but specifically
In 2000 I thought the stolen election was not that big a deal and he just wanted to be President that badly, and had no particular evil plans apart from grabbing for prestige.

On 9/11 I immediately recognized a Reichstag Fire as soon as I saw the live news footage (the first words out of my mouth were "It's a pretext for a military coup" and it was subsequently adjusted to self-coup after seeing the civilian leadership undisturbed later in the day). Since then I've not had many surprises.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:07 PM
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12. As someone above said
I could not have imagined it would be this bad.

I figured it would be a lot like the Reagan/Bush years: slow rollback of the social safety net, "starve the beast" economics, and military buildup culminating in a war against a small country with no defensive capabilities a la Grenada.

But as soon as he came into office it became clear to me that though there were some very high stakes during the 80's, the stakes today seem so much higher on issues like global warming, AIDS, and outsourcing, and Bush was leading us in the wrong direction on every front due to some ideology that was not reality-based.

And then of course after the terrorist attacks, which I could never have imagined, it became clear that this man is like a paranoid schizophrenic with a gun: crazy, out of control, unpredictable, and dangerous.

We've never had a president this crazy before. The man's a total wingnut, and nobody except for the kindred spirits at DU and like groups seems to notice.

And that's the worst part: the fact that the Dems in office, the REPUBLICANS in office, and 50+% of the country don't seem to realize that this man is just totally out there. WAY out there.

There's adifference between being a bad president and intentionally leading the coutry in the wrong direction due to your own illness, and this administration seems to be doing the latter.

He couldn't have done a worse job if he had tried.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:10 PM
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13. So much worse
I knew from the moment he arrived on the Presidential candidate horizon, he would be bad if he ended up President. Don't know why I knew initially, just a gut feeling. I didn't really know anything about him until I read "Shrub", and from then on, I paid a lot of attention to him. But I NEVER thought it would get this bad! Ever! He does whatever he wants to do, and screw everyone else. As long as it benefits him and his chosen few, fine. The rest of us can go to hell (are we there yet?). He's like the monster in a horror flick that just keeps coming back, no matter what people do to try and stop it. What's almost more unbelievable is the Republicans marching in lockstep, no matter what * does, or what he wants, or what he says. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? Did * put sometime in their kibble? Do they not care that this country is being destroyed? I cannot believe that every single Senator and Representative in the Republican party thinks all this stuff is okay. YAAAAARG!!!! :grr:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:16 PM
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14. When Bush was first crowned, I resigned myself to 4 years.
I even decided to cut the guy some slack and give him a chance. Needless to say, that wasn't my wisest decision. This country, in 5 short years, has changed so drastically I don't feel "at home" here anymore. Putting the war, torture, treason and all that aside, there is a basic meaness of spirit that has overtaken things. Poor people are squashed like annoying bugs, working people find that's all they can afford to do, seniors will be lucky to have heat this winter. I wonder if we can ever get our country back.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:20 PM
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15. Bingo!
I don't feel "at home" here anymore either. Sometimes I really do think of moving (I'm not that far from Canada), because I realize the entire world is not this way, but then again, I think I need to stay and fight. But sometimes, it's hard to keep putting one foot in front of the other isn't it?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:27 PM
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16. I'm near Canada, too, and my husband is Canadian.
We've been casually looking at real estate and will definitely relocate rather than endure another 8 years of a Republican presidency. That's not my first choice, though. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:38 PM
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18. I want my country back too!
That's what keeps me going. I love this country, imperfect as she is, and I absolutely hate what * has done to it (and has been ALLOWED to do to it). However, maybe if we all left, and only the repubs lived here, they would have to turn on each other because we wouldn't be around to beat up, the whole thing would collapse, and then we could come back........Oh hell, guess I'm here for the duration.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:15 PM
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25. I want the Old America back too!
I look across the international border at the US every day. Yes, it's a blue state ... but it's being dragged along on *'s fool errand just like all the others. Some US expatriates I know have been referring to the view across the water as "The Land of Mordor". The joking is to cover up their real feelings -- a couple of them served in the American military, and to see the nation they served turning into something unrecognizable must be terribly painful. I can't imagine what it must be like, for things to be so bad that people from what is admittedly a fine and beautiful country, wouldn't want to be Americans anymore

The last time I went to Seattle, I noticed that the war memorial downtown (constructed before all of this happened) did not leave any room to add more names. They had Vietnam, and the original Gulf War, and that was that. What are they going to do now? Will the new set of names spill over the side of the monument, and down the street? How many more will there be?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:32 PM
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17. My crystal ball never fails. I sent Nader a letter spelling it all out.
Hope he read and remembers that everything--the war against brown people in other countries, the wrecking of the economy, the tearing down of our Constitutional liberties, oil industry gone wild--is exactly as I predicted it would be and it is ALL HIS FAULT because he is a moron who thought that Bush was the same as Gore.

Nader should have stuck with something he knew something about like car safety and left politics to people who know politics.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:43 PM
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19. I had a sinking feeling in December 2000 when the 'selection' took place
but I never could've imagined what fresh hell everyday with Bush in office has been, the level of lies, criminal activity, destruction, and pure unadulterated evil of this administration is staggering, simply staggering.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:00 PM
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20. BUSH? the most corrupt administartion in US. history - seems
like no-one nothing can stop them - if with Iraq going down the toilet...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:10 PM
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22. At This Point In Time, Even I As A TRUE Anti-Idiot Liberal...
never dreamed it could have become such a NIGHTMARE!

Next Question... WILL IT EVER END! People are always saying "my how times just slips by", well now I say... the time hath cometh! I used to say that "everything cometh to those who waiteth long enough!"

I'm STILL waithething, and waitething and nothing is comething!!

I sometimes get such an eerie feeling and then real fear because I THINKETH what is comething is going to be sooooo explosive!

Time for Revolution, before Anarchy beats us down!!!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:02 PM
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23. I didn't realize they would Catapult the Propaganda quite so deeply
America is nose deep in their fear-driven propaganda. Time to shake the shit off
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:17 PM
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26. I could have never imagined how bad it would be
I thought * would be much like his father. Don’t get me wrong –his dad messed up the economy, engaged in dubious dealings in Iran Contra and appointed nutjobs like Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court but he also started the Middle East peace process, assembled a multilateral UN-backed coalition against Iraq and curbed some of Reagan’s excesses in Latin America. I was relatively apathetic then and I believed that * would be a moderate Republican.

Never could I have imagined that he’d be this bad, corrupt and evil. Or the state of the world would be as it is. His legacy will haunt us for generations to come
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:40 PM
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28. In 2000 I bought into the Nader hype hook, line, and sinker
I'll never trust anyone who tells me there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans ever again.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:58 PM
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29. I could never imagine in my wildiest dreams the depths we have come to
And every waking day it gets worse.
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:08 PM
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30. I actually thought it would be a lot worse.
I was sure we would be in Iran and Syria with a draft by now. I thought SS would be destructed in a matter of weeks without any discussion and I thought we would have had martial law at some point with a second 9/11 (MIHOP). I thought gas would be at $4 by now, also. I also thought they would have made it a national law to have all non-verified computer voting.

Other than these things, he has been as much of a failure as I expected.
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:29 PM
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31. I was drunk for 2 days after the 2000 election night. I wish I still was.
I knew we were in for a bad time.
I never thought he'd get re-elected. Neither did anyone else I know.
I didn't comprehend the depth of the wickedness in the sinister machine that brought him to power.
Few of us did, except maybe Molly Ivins and a handful of others.

What disturbs me most is the willingness of a large chunk of this country to swallow whole
the propaganda and lies in the face of the overwhelming evidence that his bastard and his minions sold this country down the river.
May they all rot in Hell for it.
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