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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:43 PM
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Who is the base of the Democratic Party
Does the word base imply the majority of the Party, or just their most active members.

Is the base mostly moderate to liberal, farther left, farther right, or what?

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:45 PM
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1. What do YOU think the base is?
Curious to know.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:47 PM
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2. what I mean when I reference it -
I consider the base to be those who usually vote Dem reflexively, and often out of self-interest - African Americans, women, liberal whites like me, labor, etc. I consider the base to be moderate/liberal.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:49 PM
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3. Well, let's look at the whole picture
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 05:10 PM by Carolab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Democratic_Party

One should note that the principles and values of any political party - especially one as factional as the Democratic Party - are difficult to define and apply generally to all members of the party. There is always debate within either American major political party. Some members may disagree with one or more plank of his or her party's platform. However, it is important to give researchers and other readers a general idea of a particular party's position on the issues.

Factions of the Democratic Party
It should be noted that defining the views of any "faction" of any political party, especially a major political party in the United States, is difficult at best, and that any attempt to apply labels within a single political party is no more effective than the application of broad labels to political parties as a whole. Keeping that in mind, there are several ideological groups widely recognized within the modern-day Democratic Party:

The New Democrats are a grouping of centrists, formally organized as the Democratic Leadership Council. The organization became particularly prominent during and after Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign. The group was founded and continues to be led by Al From. Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana is the current chairman.

Reagan Democrats are Democrats who found reasons in 1980 and 1984 to vote for the Republican Presidential Candidate, Ronald Reagan. This group was the beginning of the national conservative trend which has led to Republicans becoming the majority party in the U.S. House of Representatives(1994) and Senate(2004).

The Blue Dog Democrats are a congressional grouping of fiscal and social conservatives and moderates, primarily southerners, willing to broker compromises with the Republican leadership. They have acted as a unified voting bloc in the past, giving its thirty members some ability to change legislation. The name appears to be both a reference to several well-known Louisiana paintings featuring blue dogs, as well as a reference to the old "yellow dog" Democrats having been "choked blue." Oddly, blue is the color chosen by the media to represent Democrats.

Clintonistas - Political journalists often speak of the political advisors and allies surrounding Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary Clinton as a kind of faction, though such individuals hardly have a unified ideological leaning. Though formally a New Democrat, Hillary Clinton is generally considered more liberal than the DLC.

"Deaniacs" - Howard Dean, a failed candidate for the party's 2004 presidential nomination, currently serves as chairman of the Democratic National Committee and is a leading opponent to the New Democrats group. His campaign organization "Dean for America" became a new group, Democracy for America, which advocates very liberal policies. Many Deaniacs became politically active and contributed financially because of Gov. Dean's internet campaign.

Congressional Progressive Caucus - The CPC is a caucus of progressive Democrats in the U.S. Congress. Members have included Senator Paul Wellstone, congressman/1960s civil rights activist John Lewis, congressman/former presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich and congresswoman Barbara Lee. The CPC advocates affirmative action, trade protectionism, a livable minimum wage, repeal of tax provisions that allow for off-shore corporate havens from taxes, severe restrictions on corporate campaign money, loans for physicians who work in rural and/or impoverished areas, regulation of the prices of electricity, organic agriculture instead of genetically engineered foods, reducing the prices of prescription drugs, and supplying inexpensive drugs to Africa to treat HIV/AIDS. The CPC opposed the 1996 welfare reform.<1>

Progressive Democrats of America - The supporters of Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign also started an organization to press their ideas after the election, although it is not restricted to Kucinich supporters.

Southern Democrats - Socially conservative southern white Democrats, previously a key element in the Democratic coalition, are increasingly rare, many having lost, or opting not to run, in the 1994, 2002, and 2004 elections. Zell Miller, a former Democratic Senator from Georgia, actually spoke in favor of President Bush at the 2004 Republican convention.

Organized Labor - As a key source of political contributions, volunteers, and field organizing expertise, labor unions hold significant sway in the Democratic Party. Former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt was a leading supporter of Labor's agenda in Congress.

African-American Leadership - African Americans are members of many factions, but there is a Democratic African-American Leadership group that coalesces around the Congressional Black Caucus leadership and is generally considered liberal in outlook. Barack Obama, a newcomer, and Jesse Jackson are its most prominent leaders.

Civil libertarians often support the Democratic Party because its positions on such issues as civil rights and separation of church and state are more closely aligned to their own than are the positions of the Republican Party, and because the Democrats' economic agenda may be more appealing to them than that of the Libertarian Party. They oppose the "War on Drugs," preventive law, protectionism, corporate welfare, immigration restrictions, governmental borrowing, and an interventionist, war-centered U.S. foreign policy. The Democratic Freedom Caucus is the current example of this faction.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:49 PM
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4. frankly, it's an unfortunate, divisive term ...
it is usually used to claim support from the majority ... for example, this is what "the base" wants us to do" or "this is where "the base" stands on this issue" ...

if the Party we're truly "democratic" (small "d"), we would be less inclined to use terms like the "base" and more inclined to talk about each and every Democrat ...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:58 PM
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10. I often find that the base becomes whatever a person decides to make it
A person will claim to be part of the base, as in, "why aren't our leaders listening to the base, which is me." It's a power thing, it seems.

Or folks will say, "Kerry is playing to the base" when he does something the liberal to left folks might like, usually said by such liberal to left folks. But such folks are assuming they are the base, and I'm left wondering if that's really true.

Divisive, I agree.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:49 PM
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5. People.
The poor, the elderly, the working class, the handicapped, the minorities, the young...and those that care.
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:51 PM
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6. Us!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:58 PM
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I like yours best.
"And those who care" covers the healthy and well-off who understand we're all in this together.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:58 PM
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12. But what if we find that we disagree with those folks on an issue
Do they then become "sheeple" and we become the "base"?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:40 PM
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14. Why the insistance on division?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:54 PM
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7. I am part of the base
The base is anyone who has a big heart an open mind and wants to see everyone healthy, happy and educated and won't tolerate rigidity and control.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:56 PM
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8. That is a no brainer, The Democratic Party is:
All the people at D.U. that sent in their lunch money to help a fellow
Democrat who had no health insurance. The problem is that the fat cat
corporations want to jump the elephant and are trying to put those all power and profits to the corporation blinders on our party leaders. The
Democrats have always been for the little guy. We are liberal, we believe in a decent wage, health care, educational opportunities, clean air, and that our elected leaders are individuals who will consider the
welfare of this country and respect our obligations to other nations around the world, we believe in the bill of rights and the constitution.
We respect our old people and our veterans and believe that they deserve
a pat on the back for a job well done and not a boot out the door. We believe in stem cell research. If one paralyzed veteran is able to walk again due to stem cell research; it will all be worth it. We believe in God, but we respect the rights of others to have their own beliefs. We
believe in the right to choose and that government does not have the
right to run your life. Sorry for the rant but that's who we are.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:56 PM
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9. People
And nobody should forget it.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:58 PM
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11. Remember the group Bush called "his base" in Fahrenheit 911 ???
Regular Americans of =ALL= political persuasions should have that clip of him telling "Billionaires for Bush" that **THEY** were his base engraved in their heads EVERY---SINGLE---DAY.

That shot of him saying that is sOOoooOOo disgusting!!! (but so true)

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:01 PM
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13. It's an ambiguous answer, it's the nature of freedom and democracy
Two of the Evils, Shrub wants to obliterate, for everyone not in the "Good Old Boy Network", where they know who the boss is ,Halliburton.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:07 PM
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15. Will Pitt wrote a good piece on this one of the times this question arose
Do you think you are part of the Democratic base?

I hear a lot of stuff on DU about anti-war left-wing types being the base, and Kerry better not piss us off, or Kerry better court us, or Kerry has already pissed us off, so screw you guys, I'm going home.

I hate to break it to you, but anti-war left-wing types are not the base of the Democratic party.

Union members are the base of the party, particularly in the northeast and Pacific northwest. Women are the base of the party, particularly in the northeast, far west, and portions of the midwest. African Americans are the base of the party all across the country.

Anti-war left-wing types are the single most unreliable voter group in America. Unless you are simon-pure, you are unworthy of support from that group. As no politician in 21st Century America (with a snowball's chance of winning a national election) is simon-pure, they are not likely to bust their asses to get anti-war left-wing support.

Anti-war left-wing support, by the way, is buried by the aforementioned real base. Yes, anti-war left-wing support can swing an election, but because of the aforementioned unreliability problem - anti-war left-wing voters will bolt at the first sign of impurity, even in a tight race (See: 2000) - it is too often a hopeless exercise to try and court that group with any real vigor. The real base outnumbers anti-war left-wing types 10-1. That's where the focus goes.

So all you anti-war left-wing folks should probably stop referring to yourselves as the base of the Democratic party. Don't feel bad; I'm a anti-war left-wing type, too, and so I'm out of the fun as well. We were close to being the base, but blew up in 1968 because we couldn't stand it anymore. The party looked at us and said, "OOOOkay...let's look elsewhere."

Point?

Stop waiting for the party to court you. They won't. Either roll up your sleeves and help clean out the Aegean stables, or bolt and do exactly what the party expects you to do...which is why they don't think of you as any kind of base.

We can clean this house. We have to win first, and for a lot of good people that makes for an ugly, maddening choice, but we can clean this house. Then we'll be the base.
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