Electable???? The real Question is..........

[pnziii]

You may believe Kerry is "Electible"

But the real question is.

Do you want a guy as President that was fooled/tricked into going to war?

There was NEVER any credible evidence before the IWR was passed. It was all hype. There were a few that spoke out against the resolution, but they were ridiculed and called un-patriotic.

Either Kerry was FOOLED or he didn't have the GUTS to stand up and be counted when it mattered MOST!!!!

So do you want a Man that was gulliable/gutless to be our President.

Kerry also didn't stand up to stop the Patriot Act. He just does what everyone else does.

[sangh0]

1. Kerry voted for war?

Bush* says "Yes"

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

11. I thought Kerry was the expert on the Bush clan's crimes?

How did he get tricked by the same people he supposedly spent so much time investigating? If he was the one that exposed them, how did they fool him into believing their lies this time?

[onehandle]

2. Anybody But Bush!

This is flamebait. Please delete.

[JuniorPlankton]

3. This is not the real question!

The real question is: who is worse? Kerry (with all his flaws) or Bush?

If your answer is still Kerry, well, it's very sad...

[goobergunch]

4. It's a primary

Kerry is not the nominee, last I checked.

[pnziii]

5. But

That's all I hear. Everybody is jumping on the Kerry band wagon because he's electible.

I want Dean, but they say he's unelectable.

I think this ABB is the wrong way to approach the election. I want Bush out as much as the next, but I also want the best man as President. If we are just going to do ABB then why have the primary? Let's just assign some one as the candidate and everyone can vote ABB.

I want a Leader that stands apart from the rest. Kerry is part of the establishment. Bush couldn't have done all he did without the Dems helping him at times.

I don't want rebulican lite I want a Democrat.

[blm]

7. And when Kerry was attacking Bush in 2002, Dean publicly backed Bush.

Dems like Dean kept Bush's poll numbers propped up while dismissing Kerry's attacks on Bush's leadership.


Kerry Shows Courage In Challenging Bush
Thursday, August 8, 2002 By: Joe Conason

New York Observer
>>>>>>>>>
But it was John Kerry who delivered the most interesting, substantive and challenging message. His subject was George W. Bush's shortcomings as a world leader.

The New York Times reported that Mr. Kerry "offered a long attack on Mr. Bush's foreign policy," although the paper gave short shrift to the details in the Senator''s speech. What he began to articulate was a Democratic critique of this administration''s blunt and myopic unilateralism, and a vision that restores international alliances to the center of American diplomacy.

>>>>>>>>>

There is, however, at least one benefit for Mr. Kerry in speaking out on those faraway places and problems. While his rivals sound as if they''re campaigning for the offices they already occupy, he sounds as if he is running for President.
In a sense, Mr. Kerry enjoys an unfair advantage that mitigates the burden of his home state. He''s a decorated Vietnam veteran whose Navy service may help shield him from attacks on his patriotism. Throughout his years in the Senate, that credential has allowed him to investigate and criticize disturbing excesses of American policy abroad, as he did when he probed U.S. aid to the contra gangsters in Nicaragua. (That rather lonely crusade made him a target of the notorious Arkansas Project, funded by Republican billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife to bring down President Clinton.)

Whether Mr. Kerry can engage the electorate in a discussion of America''s global responsibilities is far from certain. His own dispassionate style may hinder him. Yet he deserves great credit for reclaiming international leadership for his party when others cannot or will not.

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 MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe the military operation in Afghanistan has been successful?
       
       GOV. DEAN: Yes, I do, and I support the president in that military operation.
       
       MR. RUSSERT: The battle of Tora Bora was successful?
       
       GOV. DEAN: I’ve seen others criticize the president. I think it’s very easy to second-guess the
       commander-in-chief at a time of war. I don’t choose to engage in doing that.

[pnziii]

8. Afghanistan?????????

No one is talking about Afghanistan.

Evryone supported going after OBL.

[goobergunch]

9. Kerry also voted for the Afghanistan war resolution

As did every other member of Congress except for Barbara Lee.

[JohnKleeb]

13. Thats quite true

but to the best of my knowledge him and Kucinich are the only candiates who have criticized our conduct there which I agree has been troubling. I believe this was brought up to mention that Kerry isnt a Bush collebartor as people will believe. Heck he votes with Kennedy like 90% of the time, and it could be higher, and I think we all know that Senator Kennedy hasnt been kissing Bush ass.

[mzmolly]

14. Damn right! Screw the status quo, it's failed us for too long now.

:P

[Nicholas_J]

6. If you go back to september meet the press

Dean sttes he beleives that there are WMD's and that he beleives that the information provided by the president is accurate.

Dean also staed he will invade Iraq for reasons other than WMD's, all that is required that the UN does not support its own resolutions:

DEAN: Sure, I think the Democrats have pushed him into that position and the Congress, and I think that's a good thing. And I think he is trying to do that. We still get these bellicose statements.

Look, it's very simple. Here's what we ought to have done. We should have gone to the U.N. Security Council. We should have asked for a resolution to allow the inspectors back in with no pre-conditions. And then we should have given them a deadline saying "If you don't do this, say, within 60 days, we will reserve our right as Americans to defend ourselves and we will go into Iraq."...

SCHIEFFER: Let me ask you this, because listening to your first answer this morning, it sounds to me like you may be taking Saddam Hussein a little more seriously today than perhaps you were last week. Is that fair to say?

DEAN: I'm taking Saddam Hussein a little more seriously today than I was two days ago when he began to -- when he, at that time, was not saying what he said yesterday. Today he's very clearly looking like he's going to resist a return of the inspectors. That is not acceptable. He has got to allow the inspectors in, and if he doesn't, then we will be in the position of having to intervene.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/30/ftn/printable523726.shtml


"As I've said about eight times today," he says, annoyed -- that Saddam must be disarmed, but with a multilateral force under the auspices of the United Nations. If the U.N. in the end chooses not to enforce its own resolutions, then the U.S. should give Saddam 30 to 60 days to disarm, and if he doesn't, unilateral action is a regrettable, but unavoidable, choice.

http://www.howardsmusings.com/2003/02/20/salon_on_the_campaign_trail_with_the_unbush.html

[mzmolly]

15. Dean said Saddam was not an imminent threat. I am glad he said

their may be WMD's, that way if they find them in Syria, were covered.

[sleipnir]

10. I for one, don't trust people who trust *...

Therefore, I certainly don't trust Kerry. He voted for war in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, just for political expediency. He thought that saving his political ass was more important than interntional law and thousands of innocent lives. He's as guilty as * in my book.

[John_H]

12. simple: Anybody is Better than Bush

[mzmolly]

16. Then vote for the *best* now... Howard Dean.

:)