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Sun Jul-31-05 08:04 PM
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Poll question: Al Gore in 2008 anybody? |
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I think we must seriously take a look at bringing back Al Gore as a potential presidential candidate. He has broke free from the DLC chains and now sounding like his own man. He is sounding more forceful. Something he should have done in 2000!
Your turn!
John
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:05 PM
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1. Give him a shot in the primaries, but not my main man nt |
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:06 PM
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2. The movement is starting... |
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Sun Jul-31-05 10:59 PM
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24. Also at www.algore-08.com |
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Click www.algore-08.com.
But please know that Al Gore is not interested in politics at this time. His primary focus is his new TV project, current.tv. If any talks over the possible Gore candidacy will surface, it will be sometime in 2007, I project. Until then, just watch the TV.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:07 PM
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Damaged goods, spoiled by the acrimonius recount crapola.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:16 PM
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11. That "acrimonious recount crapola" that you referred to |
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Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 08:17 PM by IndianaGreen
was nothing more than a stolen election. It was shown that Gore did win Florida, but by the time that bit of news came out 9/11 had already taken place and George W. Bush was on his way to becoming an American god.
Gore is better qualified to sit in the White House than any of the other names being mentioned about, including Hillary and the General.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:22 PM
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14. But I think the recount tainted Gore. |
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I am not disputing the stolen election, but I think he was painted as a sore loser or something. And yes, I would choose Gore over Hillary any day. The General doesnt have a chance. Something about his mannerisms, his eyes...
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:30 PM
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17. I think Lieberman brought Gore down. Holy Joe was the "loser"! |
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The people that painted Gore as a "sore loser" were our friends in Faux and their clones in the rest of the MSM. They are no friends of ours, and they are no friends of anyone the Democrats nominate in 2008. So, let's quit wringing our hands about what "they" will say, and let's present the American people with a program that is positive, people-oriented, and that begins with ending Bush's imperial wars.
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Mon Aug-01-05 12:15 PM
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That was Gore's first big decision and he blew it.
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:19 PM
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26. correct. Al Gore has the ability to make a difference from day one |
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this time if he runs, the media will be attacked themselves for any unsubstantiated negative behavior towards Gore.
few seem to understand that the GOP marshalled all its forces to defeat Gore and went to any lengths to defeat him; for had he won, then it would have likely had been 16 straight years of dems in the white house and they would have been able to pack the SCOTUS. the GOP threw everything they had at gore and still he won the popular vote, AND florida.
there has never been a campaign that the media expressed so much open hostility towards a candidate, never had they been so willing to swallow the elephantine lies of the GOP whilst straining on the gnat-like mistakes Gore made.
Al Gore is the same guy he was in the House and Senate and he is more liberal, more of a social democrat than anyone of significance running. his record on the environment is without challenge, and his populist message resonates with folks who want someone on their side who knows what government is supposed to do for its citizens and not be merely as a milk cow for businesses.
get gore out on the stump again, and we will see the best politician the democratic party has.
if he runs and wins, he has a chance to be the best president the US has had since roosevelt.
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:53 PM
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>Damaged goods, spoiled by the acrimonius recount crapola.<
Those who listened to Al Gore's series of speeches carried on moveon.org would most emphatically say that Mr. Gore has hit his stride. I believe he still has a lot to say to Americans and could be a very, very effective leader. As he said during his concession speech (and this is a loose paraphrase,) it seems that defeat shook his very soul, and "let the glory out."
The acrimonious recount takes nothing away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore presiding over the biggest expansion of the American economy during peacetime in the history of our nation.
Julie
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:10 PM
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4. Naaa. He could only win once. |
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Which he has already and gave up.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:12 PM
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5. Gore recently said that "shunning politics" |
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He said: "I consider myself a recovering politician. I'm on step nine."
Sorry, but Gore is done.
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Sun Jul-31-05 10:54 PM
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23. Shunning Politics for the Current.tv |
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for which Gore is the chairperson. He has not said about his own political future. But at this time, Gore is not a politician. He may be eligible in 2007 but it is best for us to leave him to devote his time and energy on his TV project.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:12 PM
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I don't think it could work ... but how about another "Clinton/Gore" ticket (just a different Clinton) ... I know there's a term limit for the job of President, but what about VP (and then perhaps run for Pres. again later on).
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:14 PM
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I think it oughta be Gore/Clark. Great, great ticket.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:15 PM
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8. Sad state of affairs if Gire seems like a good candidate... |
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:38 PM
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20. Why, yes, we are in a sad state of affairs. |
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:42 PM
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21. And he's actually a pretty good candidate. |
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Very well positioned on the issues, with his integrity intact. Great qualifications, even a visionary.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:16 PM
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9. his speeches to MoveOn were great ... |
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i have never been a big Al Gore fan but i was very impressed with the new, improved model ...
i'd need to see much more from him but i wouldn't rule him out ...
sign me up for a big old fence-sitting MAYBE ...
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Mon Aug-01-05 07:02 AM
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I'll admit to being curious about what he might do in an environment like we have now.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:16 PM
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10. I think he has a chance |
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Who knows what Primary season will bring?
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:18 PM
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12. He has a huge thing going for him |
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name recognition....plus he sees whats really going on now.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:21 PM
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13. He should've run in 2004 |
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He would've had a better shot than Kerry. But in '08, I think it's time for someone new.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:29 PM
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Dean would be my 2nd choice, but Pres. Gore deserves to finally sit in his office!
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:30 PM
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16. We have a primary process... |
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...and were he to enter the primaries, and were the other candidates the likes of Senators Clinton, Biden, Lieberman and Bayh, I could easily see myself being a Gore supporter. And in the general election, I would HAPPILY vote for Gore, though I would hope he'd be more selective about his VP...
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:37 PM
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19. I'd give him a 20% chance in the primaries |
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:33 PM
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27. For me it's either Al Gore or I vote Green or Socialist |
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None of the current Dem contenders are worthy of support, including Hillary. Send 'em back to the trash heap and start over.
I will not vote or support a Dem in 2008 who supported Bush's Iraq war. In fact, I won't support Lieberman in '06. He's a war crimminal along with Bush & Cheney. Hillary is also one since she approves of the war.
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Sun Jul-31-05 08:47 PM
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22. As long as it's the "Fightin' Al" Gore!!! |
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:17 PM
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25. I wish. I don't think he'd do it. n/t |
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:40 PM
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28. I say bring him back and see how he does |
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Basically, do some polling and see how he compares in overall polling vs. Clark, Clinton, Boxer, et al. We need the strongest candidate possible, and Gore's a good one with good chances. If it turns out he's the best bet we need him ready to make the stand.
I think we need to look at how the primaries are done, and base the choice of candidates on polling instead of intra-party concerns.
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:43 PM
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29. I would love it! We NEED someone like Gore. |
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But, I don't expect it to happen.
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Sun Jul-31-05 11:57 PM
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31. Gore did plenty wrong in 2000.. |
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I voted for him in 2000 only because Nader wasn't on the ballot, and I also dreaded what would happen with a Republican Congress and no Democratic President to stop them! One irony since 2000..I've viewed Congress as the lesser of two evils.
If Gore had supported universal healthcare, picked a better running mate like Bill Bradley..I believe he would now be President. If Gore wishes to run again..he can start by winning an election in his home state.
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Mon Aug-01-05 07:06 AM
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34. but Gore opposed the war in Iraq in 2002 and 2003 |
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while the majority of Democratic presidential wannabees went along with Bush for fear of alienating the "warrior king."
You won't find Gore's fingerprints on the Iraq War Resolution, and you won't see him standing alongside Bush and Dick Gephardt in the Rose Garden.
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Mon Aug-01-05 07:38 AM
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35. great...I'll vote for him before Gephardt |
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I think it's great he stood up against the Iraqi War Resolution, but most of us are not single issue voters!
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Mon Aug-01-05 10:52 AM
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It gives him a lot of power.
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Mon Aug-01-05 11:44 AM
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38. Some decisions are easier to make when you don't hold office |
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and you aren't running for anything.
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Mon Aug-01-05 05:32 AM
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The exact reason we will lose again in 2008.
The party has done a lousy job grooming potential presidential candidates
You will not see reruns put up by the GOP in 2008
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Mon Aug-01-05 07:45 AM
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36. We will need him after we put someone in the WH |
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he needs to be on the environment, that is is real passion and forte.
Head of EPA, but not presidential nominee.
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Mon Aug-01-05 12:00 PM
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39. Gore won't run ... EXCEPT ... |
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... if a full-on climate catastrophe is happening, then I think he will be easy to persuade.
By "full-on climate catastrophe", I mean extensive drought and famine, large numbers of people dying from summer heat, OR a climate flip-flop, with rapidly falling temperate-zone temperatures, and the onset of a new ice age. Add to that the possibility of one or more pandemics. These are plausible scenarios, but more in the 50-year window, not the 5-year window.
A severe post-peak-oil scenario might also convince Gore to run; personally, I don't think the impending energy crisis will be a quick shot to the heart, but a long, slow, painful series of cuts and gashes.
Gore is the only person with high public visibility who is up on these issues, and he has been since the 1980s. He knows most of the key players in the environmental movement and has business connections with the few remaining executives who actually give a damn about the world.
But, absent a crisis, Gore will stay in the business world.
--p!
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Mon Aug-01-05 12:11 PM
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40. I really like Al Gore, and Tipper, too. |
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I guess only time will tell if his I'm-giving-up-Politics-for-good comments of the last few weeks are truthful, or if he was just being coy.
There are two questions which would have to be answered for me:
<1> Is Wes Clark running? If he is, he gets my support. If he isn't...
<2> Is Gore aligned with the DLC?
Those two things would effect my ability to support Gore.
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