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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:16 PM
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CIA man Larry Johnson responds to NoFacts Novak...
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/08/lame_bob_novak.html


LAME BOB NOVAK
by

Larry C. Johnson

After reading Robert Novak's latest column today, the biggest revelation is that Novak still thinks he has "integrity" and is a legitimate journalist. Talk about delusional.

Back in July 2003 Novak wrote:
"Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me that Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him."

I believe Novak reported accurately that "two senior Administration officials" said that Valerie Plame "suggested the mission". But those sources were spreading deliberate disinformation. A real journalist would have asked some hard questions, things apparently beyond Novak's ability in his dotage. In stark contrast to what the two "senior" Admistration officials told him, CIA officials, both former and current, are on record saying that Novak is wrong and that Plame neither suggested nor authorized the mission. So what does Bob "the responsbile journalist" Novak do? He insists that the info about Plame is right even though officials in her chain of command say the opposite. Who are you going to believe?

Novak also attempts to take refuge in the so-called "bipartisan" Senate Intelligence Committee report on the matter, which makes note of a memo sent by Valerie Plame outlining her husband's bona fides to her boss in the Counter Proliferation Division (CPD). What the Senate Republicans conveniently left out of the report is the simple fact that Val's boss had first asked her to write the memo. Senior managers in CPD suggested the mission and authorized it. Plame's only role was to respond to a supervisor's request for information. Valerie Plame was not a decision maker or manager at the CIA. The SSCI can confirm that very easily. She had no authority to make a decision to send her husband anywhere on offiicial business.

But, we now are reminded what a complete, disgusting douchebag (to quote Jon Stewart) Robert Novak really is. He admits that he was told that revealing Plame's identity would cause "difficulties". He describes her in his original article as an "operative". Note, not "analyst" but "operative". Bob Novak has been in town long enough to know the difference. An operative is someone who carries out operations. An analyst is someone who sits at a desk and tries to make sense out of information that operators collect. Bill Harlow says he asked Novak not to use her name and Novak confirms this. CIA spokesmen were in the position of having to protect a sensitive, covert asset and this joke of a journalist did not appreciate that creating difficulties for an intelligence agency in a time of war is a bad thing?

After talking with several friends still inside the operations community, there is a widely held sentiment, "Too bad Novak is not sharing a cell with Judith Miller".


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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:22 PM
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1. these guys need to be pumped up somehow
Maybe distributing their statements somehow to the clueless.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:22 PM
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2. Bravo.........Novak is a disgusting douchebag.
"But, we now are reminded what a complete, disgusting douchebag (to quote Jon Stewart) Robert Novak really is."

The crap this man (Novak) spews is amazing, he thinks he is God's gift to journalism.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:23 PM
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3. And too bad that CNN continues to employ this "douchebag" of a reporter.
Has CNN no sense of decency?

Don't answer that!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:30 PM
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7. gots to keep those deep seated Neo-Conservative contacts-CCN salutes
political dirty tricksters - they are good for ratings, ya know.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:46 PM
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8. Oh, yes, CNN has a strong sense of decency. After all, they need it ...
so they can avoid dangers like decency that might threaten their bottom line.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:24 PM
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4. I just love this guy! Larry rocks!
Peace.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:29 PM
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6. You should check out his blog. He writes some great stuff...
Here's a quote from another of his posts...

Linda Robinson did a nice job of blowing smoke up the military's ass. I'm sure that Don (Rumsfeld) and Doug Feith and the other boys have a warm and fuzzy over the literary equivalent of a testicle tonguing they received from this intrepid reporter. But hey, how about a moment of seriousness. SOCOM is the "Global Synchronizer"? Hell, I tought a synchronizer was something that a bunch of long hair, pot smoking rockers used to make their music sound weird. Why "synchronizer"? Why not "conductor"?

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/08/the_new_selfdel.html
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:26 PM
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5. Someone should post this over at the Freepers page
I've been banned...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:04 PM
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10. To any former CIA personnel:
If you have "special" training would you please apply that to the Bush Regime and help rescue our Nation from the RW Corporatist Coup that has transpired?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:02 PM
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9. Larry maybe compartmentalized out of the picture, but Novak/Miller
are part of a domestic (illegal) CIA operation. That would be Operation Mockingbird of course. The reason they can't and won't talk about their 'sources' inside the agency is because it would divulge this entire illegal operation once again, as it was originally reported upon in the late '70s.

It never went away...and GHWBush made sure it didn't.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:30 PM
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11. rec'd.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:49 PM
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12. Larry Johnson is a hottie
I just LUV him bitch-slapping that douche bag who deserves it so desperately. He is truly a breath of fresh air.
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:01 PM
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13. Fantastic article. Recommended.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:52 PM
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14. Kick
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:45 PM
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15. Larry Johnson followup: BOB NOVAK: COLOSTOMY BAG EXTRAORDINAIRE
This is just too funny!

BOB NOVAK: COLOSTOMY BAG EXTRAORDINAIRE

by

Larry C. Johnson

I was following Jon Stewart's lead and referring to Robert Novak as a "douchebag". Today a friend of mine, a female, who recently left the CIA offered the following analysis. God, our country misses her talent.

"I for one question whether it is proper to liken Novak to a (largely feminine) hygiene product whose purpose is to make one fresh and clean. This whole affair has made me feel anything but fresh and clean. Even calling him a douchebag seems to imply some useful purpose.

One online encyclopedia does mention that "unclean douching equipment may also introduce undesirable foreign bodies..." and THAT is something that I can agree with. But if you are looking for a really disgusting item for the metaphor, try "colostomy bag."
The Anonymous Female

Lest there be any confusion, I offer the following definitions to help those still tying to figure out what Robert Novak really is. Let Jon Stewart know, Novak is a Colostomy Bag.
Larry
a colostomy bag

a colostomy bag is worn on the outside of the body and collects waste that normally passes through the digestive system
a colostomy bag is placed over the free margin to collect fecal material
a colostomy bag is worn over the stoma to collect the faeces
a colostomy bag is a storage compartment for your stool that is attached to your side where the intestine hangs out
a colostomy bag is a couch potato’s vibrator
a colostomy bag is a bit unfair
a colostomy bag is not a prosthesis it is a receptacle


:headbang:

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/08/bob_novak_colos.html
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:55 PM
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17. He beat me to it!
I thought that comparing Novak to a douchebag constituted an insult to douchebags.

--IMM
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:44 PM
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16. I wanna nominate this one twice!!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:32 PM
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18. Damn! He made my day.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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