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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:19 AM
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why bother with confirmation processes if appts
can be made out of session anyyway?

Please- this is a real question.

If a president can make appointments by running out the clock, why do we even have confirmation hearings?

If this is hpw it worksthen why waste time and money. The congress and senate could be working on other things.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:21 AM
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1. Bolton still needs to be confirmed
he only gets to serve until the next session of congress convenes
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:24 AM
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3. Which is another 1 and a half
That is enough time to start a war with Iran and piss off a lot of world leaders.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:26 AM
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5. indeed
that part of the constitution is a bit out of date

it was intended for a time when the fastest mode of transportation was a horse. it took a while to get people together in congress and it took even longer for ambassadors to travel to other countries.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:36 AM
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8. Yeah, he only gets to serve for a year and a half
But the makeu-up of the Senate could be different by 2007, when the appointment expires.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:22 AM
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2. Interesting
Maybe the Democrats should just refuse to vote on any appointments from now on and say the President can just make recess appointments.

Or they could call the Bolton recess appointment and "unusual circumstance" and then fillibuster away.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:25 AM
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4. Good question, it must have something to do will politics....
...Frist (as shrubs puppet in the senate) refused to allow an vote thus dragging out the process to the end of the session where pResident Bush immediately made the appointment after congress adjourned claiming that the democrats would not allow such a vote to take place.

If not politics, then Dubya is rehearsing to be dictator and supreme emperor.
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:30 AM
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6. How ironic
Begging for votes on judicial nominees and doing everything they could to avoid one for Bolton
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DJ MEW Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:34 AM
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7. Do those rules also apply to
Do those rules also apply to the Supreme Court. Could Bush just appoint Roberts to the Supreme Court for the next year and a half, or do judge appointees go by a different set of rules.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:15 PM
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9. yeah - another good question
n/t
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:45 PM
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10. Same rules. Pretty much every president recess appointed a judge.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:55 PM
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11. It is hoped that Bolton is now damaged goods
But recess appointments have been used quite alot by several presidents both Dem and Repub.
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