skip fox
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:02 PM
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"The plot against Wilson" (Judge in Plame case.) |
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Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 02:03 PM by skip fox
One of the judges who Fitzgerald convinced (with evidence we have not yet seen) while up-holding his order that reporters must testify claimed the case indicated that there was an administrative "plot against Wilson."
If the evidence that the judge has seen proves substantial, it will reinforce the thinking that maintains there may will be multiple indictments for "high administration officials" in Fitzgerald's final analysis including at least 2 for Rove. (If not indictments, we'll have notifications of non-indictable wrongful activities--or some such--in the prosecutor's final report).
I say this because in learning about multiple leakers for the 6 reported contacts (John Dean says 6, we know of three: Rove, Libby, and Miller's source who will not specifically release her from her confidentiality agreement) and multiple (3-4) confirming sources, it becomes apparent what occurred. One administrative official discovered the Plame-Wilson-Niger relationship, took it to the White House Iraq Group, turned it over to Rove, who on the spot assigned tasks to different primary leakers/sources assuring no source called another source's contact (so as not to appear too eager), that no source's "pitch" was exactly the same but that their information was all given in an "off hand" manner (e.g., "Don't go too far out on this Wilson thing, I don't want you burnt").
To have 6 calls from 3 leakers is an indication of a coordinated endeavor. If there were the 6 leakers as Dean claims would make the case even more damning. But also consider the planning necessary to have enough confirming sources. Unsure of who the reporters may call to confirm, someone would have to make sure at least 2 other officials were ready and willing to confirm if called.
Therefore a master-mind would have been necessary to coordinate all these calls and confirmations (as many as 11 as was storied last week).
They would have gone to Rove immediately and he, probably in an emergency of the White House Iraq Group, assigned the roles, the stories and the stances, etc.
So he not only leaked by was the mastermind of a conspiracy to leak.
We can only hope he lead a cover-up and committed perjury as well.
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:09 PM
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1. Great assessment, skip..... |
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:26 PM
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This seems like the strongest theory IMHO.
But will 3 or 6 leakers be enough to prove a conspiracy?
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:29 PM
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"But will 3 or 6 leakers be enough to prove a conspiracy?"
All you need is more than one for a conspiracy...3 or more is MORE than enough.
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:33 PM
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:31 PM
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4. " an indication of a coordinated endeavor" |
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:41 PM
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5. Once again: Fitzgerald should announce indictments with no forewarning |
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His staff shouldn't even know about it. He shouldn't even call a press conference.
He should walk into a friendly newsroom and have an ENG crew start rolling and announce them then and there. These people are caught, and they know it. Their only hope is that they can fire him before he has a chance to announce.
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Wed Aug-03-05 02:45 PM
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6. They got their war on, divided the electorate, and won the Senate in '02 |
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That sounds like Rove-work. Continuing from there, they took the presidency in '04 and get to pick two Supreme Court justices.
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Wed Aug-03-05 03:01 PM
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7. At least three motives: |
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1.) Get Wilson 2.) Warn potential "Wilson's" off and 3.) Stop Plame's investigations of Aramco http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/3/16838/88864Any more?
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Wed Aug-03-05 03:13 PM
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8. Journalist who knew of the Bush Jr. Administration tactics |
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who kept their mouths shut during the 2004 elections. If it comes out that air-wave media was complicit in these matters, there needs to be a all out effort to reject their FCC License at time of renewal. Problem, misleading the public.
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Wed Aug-03-05 03:22 PM
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:48 PM
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15. Exactly how I feel - Media, especially the DC media insiders all KNEW |
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the truth but let Rove and the WH spin it otherwise DURING AN ELECTION.
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:15 PM
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10. We also must push to discover who forged the Niger documents and |
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how the fact that they were BLATANT FORGERIES was suppressed by the Bush Administration: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1939214#1964309Thread title: Yglesias: WHO FORGED THE NIGER DOCUMENTS? At the heart of the WMD lies
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:30 PM
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11. Absolute! I don't mean to get so involved with the trees that we forget |
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the forest. The real story concerns the lies which brought us to invade. (I'm just focused on this. At least for the time.)
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:34 PM
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13. It's all part of the same story, the same people are involved, and that is |
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why the Administration is pulling out all the stops in its attempts to block and now to destroy the Fitzgerald investigation. The whole house of cards is at risk. See, that's the problem with too many lies - after a while, even a little truth is dangerous to the liars.
And I certainly didn't intend any criticism of the focus of this thread! Every bit of this is important.
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Wed Aug-03-05 04:36 PM
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14. Didn't take it as criticism. Just explaining that I know. |
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It's a damned boatload of lies that might sink under enough weight (of our exposure).
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