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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:44 AM
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Poll question: Who speaks for you?
There are those Democratic lawmakers like Joe Biden who says that "Howard Dean does not speak for me." There are those people out there that keep slamming true Democrats in slamming Howard Dean. There are also those people who stand up and say proudly. "Howard Dean speaks for me." Who speaks for you?


John
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:46 AM
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1. I tend to agree with both of their reasonings.
Basically, I understand where each of them is coming from and generally think they both have very good points. So, you could say either both speak for me, or neither speaks for me... kind of a glass half empty/half full thing.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:47 AM
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2. "Other".
I speak for me.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:47 AM
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3. Dean was DLC for a long time, helping out IBM, privatizing energy co's.
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 01:48 AM by 1932
He talks more about firing up average people now, but when it came down to making policy all those years as governor, it's not like he was putting the interest of the people before VT's big employers and investors.

I like the way Dean talks now (and he has said that he regrets the favors he did for IBM) but the DLC really doesn't care how you talk so long as you are not shifting the tax burden on to corporations or interfering with their ability to make a lot of money.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:48 AM
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4. bill moyers, most accurately
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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:51 AM
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5. Dean does
Because he's the leader of the party. I don't hate the DLC or anything.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:52 AM
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6. I speak for myself
I admire or disagree with others on particular issues, but no one speak for me. Of those listed, I have great admiration for Bill Moyers in particular, but since there are countless issues I've never heard him discuss, I couldn't possible say he "speaks for me."
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:34 AM
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7. More than anyone else, Dennis Kucinich.

Dennis is a real Democrat, deserves the support of all Dems.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:40 AM
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8. Ditto
However, the whole business of "centrists" jumping Dean everytime he calls out Republicans is just nuts. And I wish Durbin had not apologized.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 04:54 AM
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13. I speak for me....and Dennis would not speak for me on
reproductive rights anyways.....

But I want as many voices saying the right things as possible.



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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:46 AM
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9. Other
I wouldn't say that I'm always in line with where Dean stands, though I definitely support Dean's approach to politics more than I support that of the DLC. And I like Howard Dean for his backbone and willingness to stand up for what he believes. Yes, he doesn't always make the best word choices when speaking, but the Dem moderates who take every opportunity that they can to dump on Dean, and thus allow the media to spread rumors of major infighting and rifts within the Democratic Party, hurt the party far more than Dean's outbursts do, IMHO.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:49 AM
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10. I speak for me.
How can anybody speak for us? If this is truly a democracy, it is incumbent upon each of us to ferret out the truth and to assimilate the information and arrive at our own opinion. I can tell you the Dem Party is a big tent and not all of us agree on everything down the line. Nobody faxes us talking points. That would make us Republicans! I just hope the so-called far-lefties make peace with the party and that we can all work together to kick the every lovin' shit out of the Republicans every chance we get.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 04:34 AM
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11. Howard Dean, among others
HD has fought damn hard for us the past three years and I am happy to reciprocate.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 04:54 AM
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12. nobody speaks for me. However, as DNC chair, Dean...
...WORKS for me, and thus is not shielded from any criticism.
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