video 28 min. 1975 interview with Rumsfeld .........shades of PNAC

[ElsewheresDaughter]

A little over half way, Rusmfeld lays out his prior DC career, beginning in '57. Wow

part 1 28 minutes
http://www.archive.org/stream/openmind_ep1204/openmind_ep1204_256kb.mp4

part 2 28 minutes
http://www.archive.org/stream/openmind_ep1205/openmind_ep1205_256kb.mp4

[Rick Myers]

1. Damn!!!

That is a PRICELESS find!!! Thank you!!!

:kick:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. part 2...talks about Adli (ms)Steveson

http://www.archive.org/stream/openmind_ep1205/openmind_ep1205_256kb.mp4

[Daphne08]

19. Adlai E. Stevenson was a staunch Democrat and a personal

friend of my great uncle.

I find it strange that Rumsfeld admired him, unless he was at the time of his graduation... a Liberal. I've heard and read that the Neoconservatives were (at the beginning) liberals who became disenchanted with the philosophy.


Adlai Stevenson was a strong opponent of the Internal Security Act (1950)

"The whole notion of loyalty inquisitions is a national characteristic of the police state, not of democracy. The history of Soviet Russia is a modern example of this ancient practice. I must, in good conscience, protest against any unnecessary suppression of our rights as free men. We must not burn down the house to kill the rats."

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAstevensonA.htm



ADLAI E. STEVENSON: A VOICE OF CONSCIENCE
http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/stevenson.html

[Cocoa]

2. spooky intro

that's all I've seen so far...

[madeline_con]

3. Lucky you....

I got a fuzzy yin and yang thing. That's it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

7. try here

http://www.archive.org/details/openmind_ep1204

[HereSince1628]

4. Yeah, its like a dark version of West Wing meets the 70's show.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

5. He looks creepy in that video

Vaguely predatory...

[Cocoa]

6. where's the PNAC part?

they don't seem to be touching on foreign policy at all. :shrug:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. right...i changed my OP to shades of PNAC

[hiley]

8. ElsewheresDaughter

thanks for finding this and posting.
Hiley

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. found part 2 ...another 28 minutes

http://www.archive.org/stream/openmind_ep1205/openmind_ep1205_256kb.mp4

[hiley]

16. wow, that is great!

thank you.
Hiley

[ElsewheresDaughter]

18. i saw a few where he interviews MLK and Malcolm X. if you want them?

[hiley]

20. That would be wonderful!

I would just love to see those..
ElswheresDaughter :yourock:
thank you,
hiley

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. here ya go.......I love these men ......enjoy

MLK
http://www.archive.org/details/openmind_ep727

Malcolm X
http://www.archive.org/details/openmind_ep892

[hiley]

22. Oh this is remarkable!

I can't wait to see both shows and then tomorrow I will show to my grandchildren.
They love to learn about Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X of course at school they are not covered but a second.
:hi: thank you so much for the links.
hiley

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. you are very welcome...

[CrackpotAmerica]

9. Barbarians at the Gates

It is striking how this "kind of old fashioned" man has persistently worked toward policies of imperialism and expansionism (PNAC values) even during the time of this interview, when United States policy was based strictly on containment of Communism, another expansionist policy.

More importantly, this little gem really shows the underlying arrogance of this man. A man who has the blood of thousands of people on his hands; and yet continues his crusades with no regard or admiration for those who have given their total and complete selves to serve this country.

[Imalittleteapot]

11. Rummy had some evil eyes in his forties - now hidden

by eye glasses. He is creepy.

[CelticWinter]

12. could pnac go as far back as Kennedy?

http://www.canadiandimension.mb.ca/extra/d1220jpi.htm


<snip>
In the Los Angeles Times, the military analyst William Arkin describes a secret army set up by Donald Rumsfeld, similar to those run by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger and which Congress outlawed. This "super-intelligence support activity" will bring together the "CIA and military covert action, information warfare, and deception". According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld, the new organisation, known by its Orwellian moniker as the Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG, will provoke terrorist attacks which would then require "counter-attack" by the United States on countries "harbouring the terrorists".

<snip>
In other words, innocent people will be killed by the United States. This is reminiscent of Operation Northwoods, the plan put to President Kennedy by his military chiefs for a phoney terrorist campaign - complete with bombings, hijackings, plane crashes and dead Americans - as justification for an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy rejected it. He was assassinated a few months later. Now Rumsfeld has resurrected Northwoods, but with resources undreamt of in 1963 and with no global rival to invite caution.

more

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. part 2 ...another 28 minutes

http://www.archive.org/stream/openmind_ep1205/openmind_ep1205_256kb.mp4

[wli]

17. the PNAC is a front for the AEI, which was founded in 1943

[cliss]

24. Thank you for posting, Elsew.

There should be a thread about Don Rumsfeld about 10 times a day, reminding everyone of his evil deeds.

This guy goes back a long ways, he has a long trail of nefarious dealings with arms traders, Saddam himself, making millions on selling armaments to both sides.

There was a photo of him and Dick Cheney, sitting at the desk of Gerald Ford. They looked so mischevious; like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. Both of these guys were involved in VietNam. And now here we are in Iraq, courtesy of Guess Who? We should have exterminated these two cockroaches when we had the chance.

RumsFailed is worth about $136 million dollars.
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Now as far as the PNAC, I believe it was founded by ______Strauss. It's my understanding that they were Democrats at first, but then they moved to the Repugs. Nice match, all the way around.