IF Bush acted like a man and met with Cindy Sheehan...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

[Maat]

1. Every one of your options is good.

Yes, I'd like him to explain to Mom the reasons, in his own words, why she has to suffer daily for the rest of her life.

Then he can have a public talk with Conyers.

As if either would happen.

[wtmusic]

2. If he did meet with her you could be certain it would be in private

because she wouldn't hold back.

[kliljedahl]

3. If he acted like a man, I'm sure it wouldn't be a convincing act.

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[Lisa]

14. he's 59 years old. If he has to "act" ....

.... I have my doubts about whether he ever WILL be a convincing man.

[terrya]

4. My opinion of him wouldn't change.

It would be a small, minute bit of nobility on his part. But it wouldn't mitigate what a despicable man he is.

Of course, this won't actually happen. I wish Cindy Sheehan well. I have her in my thoughts and wishes. She is doing a great, great thing. But Bush won't meet with her.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

8. Yes, and his refusal to meet with her...

...will find an appropriate place in his "legacy."

Bush thought that suppressing photos of flag-draped coffins would mask the human element, the pain, the loss of this senseless war.

He was wrong.

It only takes one Cindy, and thank God for her.







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[Cha]

5. Other...if

bush met with Cindy Sheehan, you can bet it's for some politically expedient reason..like getting rid of her and her supporters camping out in the immediate area.

The longer she stays the more press it's gonna get :)

[senseandsensibility]

6. That would be an acting job

worthy of an Oscar.

[stray cat]

7. I would feel better if he came up with a decent plan for Iraq

Bush is all hat and no cowboy. The man has no depth or thoughtful plan for his foreign policies.

[uppityperson]

9. Please drop the "acted like a man" part

He is a man. His being a righteous arrogant asshole doesn't make him not a man. I really hate this sexist talk because it perpetuates these stupid myths that hurt us all. If you could rephrase the question into him being a compassionate, caring, humane person of some sort, I would appreciate it. Thank you.(rant off)

Now, on to the issue. I still would not forgive him.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

11. "IF Bush did the right thing and met with Cindy Sheehan..."

OK, that one's in response to your request.

But I didn't say "IF Bush acted like a man and met with Cindy Sheehan..." to be sexist.

If you can think of a way to address:

1). The fact that he is not a compassionate person
2). The fact that he is not a caring person
3). The fact that he is not a humane person

...AND add the INTENT of my post, which is:

4). His lack of courage
5). His lack of accountability
6). The fact that he has suffered NO PERSONAL LOSS as the result of his war

...And phrase it in a way other than

"IF Bush acted like a man and met with Cindy Sheehan..."

...that will fit on a DU subject line, I'd be willing to consider it. But not because you have correctly fathomed my intent, or because I wish to conform to your moral code. I'd consider it if you came up with something that accomplished all of the above and fit on one line.

You see, uppityperson...with all due respect...there are some of us who were raised with the "what it means to be a man" ethic.

I don't think my parents were being sexist when they instilled that in me. If you think they were...given the fact that you didn't know them and you don't know me...here's your chance to enlighten me.

I'm not going to say that it's "modern" or "progressive" or "enlightened" thinking, and I'm also not going to justify it to you. I'm going to respect your opinion and exercise my right to disagree with you.

You're welcome.

:toast:

[uppityperson]

12. Thank you. "the right thing" works well

I am sorry if you took this as an insult to how you were raised or to your parents as this is not how it was meant.

I assumed you did not say it to be sexist, but it is a sexist phrase.The meaning behind words, the feeling that accompanies them can be subtle.

I know what you mean by "acted like a man" but it rankles. I was raised in those times too. But now is different and how do men act? Can they cry? Should they have a stiff upper lip and short hair? Should they do the right thing, be caring humane people?

I am not a man. Does that mean when I do the right thing, or am caring or humane I am acting like a (what)? If my husband acts caring, humane, in the right way, it is not because he is a man but because he is a caring humane person.

Mr.bush acts in no right way, but this is because he is not a caring humane person, but an arrogant righteous one. Sometimes I think his intellect is deficient, other times his soul. He does the right thing seldom because he is not humane.

Again, sorry if my request came across as an insult as I did not mean it so.

[HockeyMom]

10. Bush, or more likely, his HANDLERS

don't want to hear anyone who doesn't agree with him, i.e, NO PROTEST ZONES. I have lived over half a century and no other President has instituted No Protest Zones, not even Nixon.

[AuntPatsy]

13. Thats the pickle, pun intended, nothing changes and everything

stays the same.

[Azathoth]

15. I'd give him a tiny, tiny bit of credit if he did it privately

It would be the first time in Dimson's life that someone told him he was wrong without having him stamp his feet and cry and stick fingers in his ears.

[radfringe]

16. he hid from Max Cleland

he's hiding now from ONE REGULAR AMERICAN MOM --

do you really think he has the "resolve and determination" to explain to her why her son died?

Think about this -- 2 years and 4+months since the invasion of Iraq and the bushies are still trying to justify it... The reasons for invading Iraq change faster than the weather in New England...

[union_maid]

17. If he acted like a man

We'd know he'd been given courage by the wizard. Then he'd just need brains and a heart.