THE WORST HELD SECRET in political history

[aspberger]

That is of course the next POTUS Hillary Rodham Clinton. Everybody knows the manifest destiny of her candidacy and victory.

As history unfolds it is amazing to see everyone do their part. It is textbook Irving Goffman, from his book, THE PRESENTATION OF SELF IN EVERYDAY LIFE. From the right being scared to death and forced to really pray; and, the left pissing, moaning, and rattling their cage because of Hillary's centrist makeover. The clarkies are doing their part to make the Democrats seem like macho men with their support of the general. And the dreamers are holding their ground with claps of joy for kucinich, kerry, and gore.

It's all falling into place. The great birth of a great president is happening. Hail to the chief. NOBODY BUT HILLARY!

[tk2kewl]

1. This should be interesting...

:popcorn:

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

3. Pass that over here...

:popcorn:

[kliljedahl]

6. Yep

:popcorn:


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[SteppingRazor]

18. I'll fourth that notion!

:popcorn:

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Yawn.

[mikehiggins]

4. Not a chance ;^) Sorry, just had to say that. eom

[Richard Steele]

5. Okay......

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[NoSheep]

37. Hey Dick! How's my job search coming along?

:7 I have a very good chance of getting a job with a bank that would be a great career move for me. I have 2 wonderful supporters in the HR dept there. Wish me luck, and thanks for your early encouragement. :D

[Richard Steele]

47. That's good to hear!

Since I certainly haven't found any good leads for you...

I really believe that our economy is in MUCH worse shape than anyone will admit, but that's another discussion!

Good luck with the bank; please keep us posted!:-)

[NoSheep]

50. Thanks my friend.

:hi:

[ChiciB1]

7. The RIGHT Is Not Scared Of Her

THEY WANT HER!! That is as a Democratic Candidate to run against!!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. The right is sweating bullets, but they are acting

like they welcome her candidacy.

The only one they have that could beat her is McCain, and they already threw him under the bus.

And forget Rat-teeth, his affair in Gracie Mansion when was mayor of NYC will take care of him.

[rasputin1952]

38. Welcome to DU....

:) :hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

92. One thing I've learned with these people

is everything they say turn it around. They're backwards people. Why they are promoting Hillary? I don't know.

[ChiciB1]

24. One Funny Link Here.. And Check The Hype... RW Is

rooting for her. Then they will smear her all over the place. Having said that, personally I don't want her as a nominee.

Here's the funny link, if you haven't already seen this.

http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_6660/2008cc1.swf

[ChiciB1]

29. OOOOOPPPPS.... Fixing Link

http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/6660/2008cc1.swf

Hope it works now.

[AllyCat]

8. Huh? No one is scared to death of Hilary

The Right would LOVE for her to be the candidate because she'll be really easy to beat. Any Senator will be easy to beat no matter how good a person.

Where are you getting this theory? Link?

As a "Clarkie" I don't think I have ever portrayed the Democrats as "macho men" to anyone so I have no idea what you are talking about.

[GracieM]

32. If the RW is inviting a Hillary run

they must be scared. Remember the childlike RW loves reverse psychology.

[nickinSTL]

9. right...

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

10. Whoa!

[frankly_fedup2]

11. I'm hoping she will hold out for 2012. She goes into office 2008 . . .

then she will inherit this mess of Bush's. Of course, it probably will continue past 2012.

If I were more than a part-time practicing Christian (which I'm almost ashamed to be that anymore), I would think this little arrogant ass is the antichrist himself.

I'm not catholic either; however, Pope John Paul, III, stated in the Catholic times back in 2000 that he believed GWB was the antichrist and he had started the last battle of Armageddon. Now the pope knows more about religion, religious dogma, politics, and pretty much anything else there is to know with his education compared to mine. His cardinals said the pope would become so animated when he talked about Dubya. They said that he had always felt that the antichrist would come during his lifetime. He also said his only regret is that he was so old and feeble that he could not fight him as well as he needed to. Now you know, Constantine XIV, was Pope John Paul's right-hand man. He knows everything that John Paul, III, believed and corrected him on anything religious in case he was wrong since Constantine was the Catholic expert of their bible and religious dogma.

There was another man who predicted all the popes and the last one will be "Peter II." This is the Pope to come after Constantine. The story is that the reason there has never been a Pope Peter out of respect for the Disciple Peter who is the father of the Catholic Church. Constantine is like a filler-in Pope until Peter II decides his time is due. Supposedly, this will tear the church apart. The cardinals will take sides against each other and there will be great tragedy in the Catholic beliefs.

I find that kind of interesting.

[nickinSTL]

79. what are you talking about?

John Paul III? Constantine XIV?

:wtf:

(you do know that the last pope was JP II and the current one is Benedict XVI, right? - not to mention the idea of taking the Malachy prophecies as truth :eyes:)

[frankly_fedup2]

86. Drug-induced stupidity?

I guess I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. I am on a lot of medications for pain (Vicodin and wear a morphine patch), plus a lot of anti-anxiolytics and anti-depressants. I am disabled due to chronic pain. However, yesterday I was taking extra pain pills (as I am today). Some days it just takes more to get to where I can function. Obviously, yesterday I was functioning but inaccurately.

I had just bought the "Constantine" video the day before (that is where I was thinking the new Pope was Constantine instead of "Benedict XIV." The last Pope was John Paul the II and I was thinking he was the III John Paul

However, I did read about Pope John Paul II in the Catholic Times believing that Dubya was the antichrist. Also, as far as the prophecy by Malachy, I find it interesting. I didn't mean to come across as he is the Catholic Church's Nostradamus or anything. However, there has never been a Pope Peter and they state it is out of respect for the disciple Peter (that has nothing to do with the prophecy of course).

Thanks for correcting my errors. I would hate for someone new to come along, or someone that just passes things on without looking up the information, to believe what I had incorrectly posted, and then just passed it on.

We all have our moments (sorry)!!!:crazy:

:think: :yoiks:

[FreedomAngel82]

93. I remember reading about what the Pope said

I found that hilarious. LOL. Plus a lot of W's little followers think he's the antiChrist so it's really hilarious. One thing is for sure you can feel pure evil from Bush. It's quite scary and disgusting to feel.

[Name removed]

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[FrenchieCat]

13. Who would have guessed it?

[aspberger]

16. what about the "deep cover"

MOLES?

[FrenchieCat]

28. If it walks like a duck.....go hunting, I say!

[aspberger]

15. prophets have always been stoned

n/t

[AntiCoup2K4]

76. "Stoned" is an appropriate description for the state of mind seen in .....

....these threads.

Not the good herb though. More like meth or angel dust.

[CTD]

14. Wow. Someone started drinking early.

Hillary's odds of ever becoming president are about the same as OJ Simpson's. Heck, they're probably worse.

Nice troll.

[aspberger]

19. How biased of you!

n/t

[achtung_circus]

17. hee, hee

[aspberger]

21. what is so funny

I see it all happening. Hillary is achieving political critical mass. I call it as I see it. I therefore support Hillary. I AM WELL WITHIN MY RIGHTS TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE WHO WILL STAND UP TO THE REPUKES, POINT HER FINGER AT THEM, AND SAY YOU ARE STEALING NO MORE ELECTIONS-ASSHOLES.

[endarkenment]

26. So barbara boxer is your gal!

Glad to hear it. Me too. She ROCKS!

[Warren DeMontague]

54. I'll second that!

I could certainly get behind a Boxer-Durbin ticket!

[pseudostar]

87. Tres on that.

n/t

[AllyCat]

27. What, praytell, has happened to have her reach critical mass?

What has she done that is so critical? I'd love someone to stand up to these folks and stop stealing elections, but I just don't think she's the one to do it. Sure didn't do anything in 2004 when we all warned them it would happen.

I think it's gonna have to be us that does this.

[meganmonkey]

30. When has Hillary EVER said Repubs steal elections?

PLEASE provide a source for that if it is true - I would LOVE to see it.

Thanks.

mm

[aspberger]

40. they wouldn't even dare

with Hillary.

[meganmonkey]

44. That doesn't answer my question - I will reword it

When, if ever, has Hilary said that Repubs steal elections? What, if anything, makes you believe she thinks that they do?

[aspberger]

58. she has the intelligence to shut her mouth

BECAUSE BITCHING ABOUT A STOLEN ELECTION WITHOUT THE EVIDENCE OR THE BALLS TO GET THAT ELECTION OVERTURNED, MAKES SUCH AN ENTITY SHRIVEL IN THE EYES OF THE MASSES.

[meganmonkey]

63. Okay - so if she has the intelligence not to talk about it

then how, exactly, is she going to point her finger and tell the repubs that they can't steal any more elections?

And btw, please don't yell at me anymore.

[aspberger]

77. The powers that be

have decided upon Hillary. They want to give it to an "approved" Democratic candidate so the Democrats will basically shut up about stolen elections.

[eridani]

72. What about refusing to go after evidence?

We don't have proof, just probable cause. So why weren't all the ballots in the state of Ohio impounded?

[endarkenment]

52. But you said...

"I AM WELL WITHIN MY RIGHTS TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE WHO WILL STAND UP TO THE REPUKES, POINT HER FINGER AT THEM, AND SAY YOU ARE STEALING NO MORE ELECTIONS-ASSHOLES"

So it is a fair question to ask on what basis you make that assertion. She hasn't stood up on this issue so far, so it would seem that we should take it on faith that she will do so in the future.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Oh, so the only reason they pulled it off with Gore and Kerry was because

they were not shielded by the mighty force of the all powerful CLENIS?

Hmmm. You know, no one is a bigger fan of BC than me, but maybe that's why he's been cozying up to Poppy of late. Wants to get the Diebold concession.

[achtung_circus]

34. Hillary Clinton carries far too much baggage, case closed. nt

[Jane Austin]

90. Please don't shout.

It makes you seem like you don't know any net etiquette.

DUer's learn netiquette early on.

[wyldwolf]

20. Here's my Chris Matthews imitation: HA!

Ya know, you're probably right.

Only I've seen a lot of negativity thrown Mark Warner's way by some Clark supporters.

[Uncle Joe]

22. Screw the Koolaid, Jello Shooters anyone?

:popcorn:

[loudsue]

25. Democrats will NEVER elect Hillary....not if the voting machines are

accurately counting votes.

Hillary is NOT the Dem we want or need. She's being hoisted upon us by the right wing media machine, and a lot of corporate money.

The economy and foreign relations are going to be so unfathomably destroyed by the time chimpcons leave office, it would only give them someone they already love to hate to blame it all on.

If she's falling for their crap, she is waaaay too stooooopid to be president, anyway.

I'm sick of the hired help coming around trying to pump her up.

Go back into your holes. You're not fooling anyone.

:kick::kick::kick:

[aspberger]

42. so unfair

so wrong

[City Lights]

31. If she's got it all wrapped up, guess there's no need for me to vote. eom

[ulysses]

33. manifest destiny...

:rofl:

Whee! Ok, you've been goofing us this whole time, right? :D

[Donna Zen]

35. The poster meant to say:

Big money and all of the inside the beltway levers of manipulation. It was just a wee slip on the keys.

[ulysses]

36. I'm just astounded at the use

of "manifest destiny". I think he's just having fun at our expense at this point.

[aspberger]

41. I do not mock you

please don't mock me.

[ulysses]

43. you poor dear.

Having to endure such disagreement from those beneath you.

[aspberger]

48. I AM BRINGING FRESH PERSPECTIVE

and new energy to a forlorn cause stuck in a state of arrested development.

[AuntPatsy]

49. Please don't give up, its more serious than so many realize.

[ulysses]

53. you're a regular Prometheus.

[AuntPatsy]

57. Wasn't he tortured?

[ulysses]

59. ROFLMAO! so he was!

A human foie gras, as I recall. :D

[AuntPatsy]

62. Well then I hope your wrong that I remind you of him ;-)

[ulysses]

64. I wasn't referring to you

unless you and aspberger are the same. :)

[endarkenment]

56. So far...

I've read your fresh perspective that around election time we ought to go door to door and talk to people, and now your fresh perspective that Hillary is the annointed one.

[rasputin1952]

39. Here we go again...(sigh)...but the GOP is happy she might run...

All I wnat is an intelligent human being as PotUS. One thing is for sure, Hillary was not picked out of the vegetable bin like bush.

In any case, no one will be seriously thought of for awhile, and '06 is monumentally more important at this point in time.

[AuntPatsy]

45. Again your taking a beating. I guess I will too, though in all

honesty, I am thinking of another at this point. I sincerely believe she knows how to defeat these creatures...

I also agree that it is a mute point until after 06 and I also agree that if the voting machinery is not rewired, we will not fair so well next year regardless of popularity polls.

[loudsue]

71. You mean "YOU'RE" taking a beating?

Spelling. Grammar. Signs of.... never mind.



:kick::kick::kick:

[mmonk]

46. .

:rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

51. If she is the nominee, I will support her. But I think Gore and Clark are

FAR more "realistic" choices at this point, and for a myriad of reasons.

And I am not a "dreamer", my views are pretty representative of a LOT of members of the Democratic party, and not the fringe, either. A "centrist makeover" might have made sense for Bill Clinton back in the day, but right now, certain things -like support for the war in Iraq, for instance- are deal breakers.. for a LOT of us.

Does she want it? Almost certainly. Is she being moved into place by certain people, including her husband? I'm pretty sure she is.

But is it a done deal?

Fucking hardly.

[HootieMcBoob]

60. That's what the corporate media is going to be cramming down your throat

for the next three years...but I choose to ignore it ;)

[firefox]

88. Yep.

The PTB want anyone that will carry on their perpetual wars, the War on Drugs and the ones for global domination. It is like Chomsky says. The wealthy will give us two of their representatives so that we can ratify one.

Anyone that does not call for cutting the military budget is a puppet no matter how many times they chant their meaningless slogan "Strong on defense." The US military is all about offense and that needs to change. Hillary does not pass the military litmus test and she surely does not pass the litmus test on ending the WOD, the other perpetual war, despite its fraud and failures.

No drug warrior or pro-Empire candidate for me, thank you very much.

[peace frog]

96. Ditto...

... they so badly want her to be the Dem nominee they hope to convince the rest of us by "catapulting the propaganda".

:::Snore::: ZZZzzzzz

[Dr Fate]

61. She does not inspire the base what-so-ever.

And that will be a huge problem come time to find folks to knock on doors, man phone banks and stand on street corners.

Her idea to support Iraq War recruiters on college campuses shows just how out of touch she is- parents from neither party want recruiters breathing down their kids necks. It's an empty posture to show she "supports" a war that no else but hard-core Repubs support anymore- she thinks its last year.

I'll support Clark, Gore, Kerry or Pedro -I'll be hard pressed to do a lick of work for her.

[ulysses]

65. 'tis a horrible fate, my friend,

to have inspired the base of one's own party. We know now that that only leads to our destruction.

;-)

[sendero]

66. Is it fun to live in..

.... deludo world? :)

[aspberger]

69. we will see

in january 2009

[LWolf]

67. No, thanks.

I don't dislike the woman, but I don't want her for a president, either.

If we're going to nominate a woman, I'll go with Boxer.

I'd prefer to start with electing a woman vp; my ideal ticket would be Kucinich/Boxer.

[Robeson]

68. Yes, lets continue to be the gang who couldn't shoot straight....

...and nominate Hillary...:crazy:

BTW, if she's the nominee, I hope you enjoy Jeb with your coffee...:hangover:

[blondeatlast]

70. Worst held secret in political history" is that you support Hillary.

Yawn

[autorank]

73. Well then I'll leave the country (LOL). No way, "sell on the news"

She peaked early. Not many more than 40% will ever really like her and her extraordinary morph into "typical pol" is a great demonstration of just why she should not be trusted. One Clinton was enough. His screwing around and awful boundaries got us the * era. Hillary wouldn't do that but she'd screw up something really big and screw us again. She's toxic.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

74. Sure. Whatever.

[Elidor]

75. Funniest fucking thread of the month!

I'm gonna nominate this baby, just for shits and giggles! Oh, and hey - THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE CAPS LOCK!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

78. This thread needs more deleted posts.

So here it goes:

You're a bastard freeper!

A personal attack! You must alert on this post and have it deleted! Now we're getting somewhere!

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

95. Deleted Message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

:evilgrin:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

80. Sarcasm at its best. n/t

[Lost4words]

81. I wont vote for a DLC candidate,

I have made up my mind, after kerry let us down, and Gore Lieberman I am not going to waste my vote on center anything.

Sorry!

I think there many like me who feel the same way. I dont want any more corporate pandering.

The Democratic party is dead until a REAL American steps forward, and that aint anyone named Clinton.

Sorry to disagree with you!

[Bridget Burke]

82. Is that Georgia Editor still lurking?

He's apparently reporting on the DU weirdos.

(Or maybe he's posting?)

Manifest Destiny? Is she going to declare war on Canada & Mexico?

[Bo]

83. Please not hillary

The south hates her I know I live in the south.

[bearfan454]

84. Hillary cannot win

Too many people hate the Clintons. The right wing pukes are trying to pick our candidate for us again. Not only that, but electronic vote stealing will keep the pukes in power for a long time unless Conyers or Pelosi are able to stop it.

[election_2004]

85. Well then, I guess it's all over....

Everyone pack up and go home. The outcome of the 2008 primaries have already been decided by the party establishment, so there's no point in trying to sell your favorite candidate to voters, and there's no point in discussing 2008 anymore at DemocraticUnderground...in fact, there's no point in even bothering to vote in November 2008 since Hillary doesn't need any "liberal wackos" talking her up.... :eyes:

[mattclearing]

89. Still?

These content-free posts are really getting old.

Are you ever going to think of anything meaningful to say other than, "Hillary will win?"

[FreedomAngel82]

91. While I do respect and like Hillary

I'm not a fan of her for being president. What will she do different? If she does win the nomination I'd vote for her over John McCain or whomever the right puts up because I trust her a bit more then them. And hey maybe we can finally get that national health care she's been fighting for. Hillary's classy too. And think of having a woman president... Although it would be interesting learning the president's in school: Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Ha! :crazy:

[patcox2]

94. Aspberger?

A syndrome marked by, among other symptoms, poor social skills, often a complete inability to accurately gauge and understand other people's emotions, thoughts, and responses.

Yup, that would explain thinking that Hillary is electable.

[Moderator]

97. locking

this member is no longer among us.