treefrogjohn
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:13 PM
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At least one Repub moderate getting scared. |
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I have spent several evenings in the past couple of weeks dining with a mainstream Republican party moderate, who has served in county and state level political positions for the past few decades. All I can say without revealing enough to place her in trouble is that she is literally scared of the religious right, is still hanging on to the belief that bush is a good man who is unaware that he is being led by a bunch of extremists, and expressed fear that the current political direction in the country is "closely paralleling that of the Nazi's rise to power." She feels that bloggers have more potential than the mainstream press for bringing the truth to light. Lastly she said that there are many others within the traditional moderate side of the Republican Party who share her fears and miss the days when dealing with the Democrats was an exercise in discussion and compromise rather than spinning and sliming.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:17 PM
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:17 PM
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2. Then you don't want her to know about this; |
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http://nightweed.com/VoterFraudATaleofTwoBrothers.html'Cause then she may realize that they have WAY too much control.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:21 PM
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......is still hanging on to the belief that bush is a good man who is unaware that he is being led by a bunch of extremists,.......
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:19 PM
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3. So, she is gonna keep quiet about it and tisk tisk all the way to |
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:20 PM
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4. Maybe she should come to DU |
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Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:21 PM by Kurovski
and express her fears from her point of view as a Republican moderate?
I think she would find enough support to get her message out and maybe learn a thing or two?
No one has to know who she is.
Edit: please consider this an invitation.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:20 PM
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5. And yet, she will still vote for Republicans. |
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:22 PM
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7. Yup. I had colleagues who KNEW how fucked up George is, |
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and that he was leading our country down the shitter, and they STILL pulled the lever for that assclown.
Unbelievable.
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Iris
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:42 PM
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13. anything to save a fistful of dollars from the tax man, right? |
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:51 PM
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14. I suppose I'm no better: I'll still vote for Blagojevich despite |
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his corrupt, idiotic tenure.
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Iris
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:48 PM
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:50 PM
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20. oh. Never mind. I just found out myself! |
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:24 PM
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8. Too bad she wasn't THAT scared on Nov 3rd..... |
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wonder why?
If she's reading blogs,...why did she vote for Bush?
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:35 PM
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9. She needs to get a lot more than 'scared' -- she needs to get BUSY |
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If she honestly feels this way:
expressed fear that the current political direction in the country is "closely paralleling that of the Nazi's rise to power."
She is more precious than gold. She needs to start ORGANIZING among her colleagues. Seriously. Think about it. This is precisely the type of person we need to start waking more people up, and to help STOP the fascist rampage.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:38 PM
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10. No excuse, no sympathy |
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I have greater respect for my Baptist fundie redneck kinfolk who vote for Bush because he represents their interests, vile although they may be in my eyes.
There is no excuse for someone who sees the worst and still supports it, or is unwilling to remove themselves from the game.
Republicans of conscience, moderate and conservative, have left the party. The rest are just sell-outs.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:38 PM
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11. Why do repukes always say Bush is being mislead instead of Bush leads? |
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Bush was mislead about WMDs. Bush was mislead by the religious right. Bush was mislead about the aftermath of the war. Bush was mislead about 9/11 pre-intelligence. Don't they see that they are basically saying that Bush doesn't lead he follows? Who wants a president that can't lead?
We all knew the Iraq intelligence was a scam way back before the war. Why do they think Bush doesn't have the ability to see the truth just like we do?
I'll answer my question. Because they wanted power and didn't give a shit that Bush was a dumb ass. The know he is a dumb ass but now they can't brink themselves to admit that putting him there was a mistake.
They are like kids following the Pied Piper. Screw them and their fears. They brought it on all of us. They will have to suffer just like we do. I'm glad of that.
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Iris
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:41 PM
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12. I'm curious what moderates think of the "cultural divide" |
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That seems to be where the Dems go wrong in framing the issues. For whatever reason, the average voter cannot equate a balanced economic playing field with family values and I just don't know how the Dems. can show them the light.
And I may be, as "o'really" says, way off the charts when it comes to my leftward leanings, but I once received an email from an educated friend disaparging Clinton because now she "has to explain what a blow job is to my 8 year old." For some reason, I just don't think that's a big deal. My mom grew up in a sheltered Catholic home, went to an all-girls Catholid school and ended up pregnant before she married at 23. She made DAMN sure we knew about the birds and the bees, and I honestly don't think 8 is an inordinately young age when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:01 PM
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This is one of the MAJOR dividing lines between the moderates and the RW zealots. The moderates (aka Rockefeller Republicans) don't want the gov't micromanaging personal and private matters via federal legislation. They also despise fiscal irresponsibility and unjustified wars.
Is it any wonder why the Republican for Kerry supporters started visiting sites like DU? The Republican party is owned by the theocratic neocons now.
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:46 PM
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18. I still don't understand why educated, middle and upper middle class |
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people don't understand this and keep supporting the Republican party because of misconceptions like Republicans are strong on foreign policy (wtf?) and have high moral standards.
I would think a family of 2 college-educated parents who have careers and children, all of whom (male and female) they are educating would think it's ok for the Republicans to claim to have family values while they systematically dismantle things like the Family and Medical Leave Act.
I remember being at an alumnae assoc. meeting and being amazed at a woman who was so happy the Supreme Court picked Bush as the president in 2000. I just wanted to scream "Don't you want your daughter to be able to take a maternity leave when she gives birth to your grandchild?"
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:28 PM
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16. It's great that her eyes are starting to open, but if she thinks that |
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Bush is a good man unaware that he is being led by extremists, then she's still got a long way to go. She does realize that he hired/appointed all of those extremists, doesn't she?
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:35 PM
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17. Oh please. Unaware? And no one in the senate or congress can |
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have a sit down with him and say hey Mr.Pres, this looks bad? This smells? This is wrong?
Based on my distant observations, he is pandering to the right and letting policy be driven by them. Why? Because they bought the presidency. He is the figurehead and a powerless idiot but he not un-aware.
He is all the more guilty for serving as their conduit to our countries resources.
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Thu Aug-11-05 09:34 PM
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21. This is extremely important. Republicans must, must, must make |
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contact with their moderate side. Republicans ARE NOT conservatives. They hold some Conservative ideals, but have never been for pushing the clock backward to 1850. That is the conservative agenda.
Look to Lincoln, Eisenhower, Rockefeller, Hell, look to Nixon. They were moderates. Progress was okay, but let's hold to our roots. They were never RIGID.
Republicans must look to their roots. And rigid, corporate conservatism is not it. Hitler, excuse the analogy, was conservative. He wanted to turn back the clock to the Kaisers.
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Thu Aug-11-05 09:39 PM
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini
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