SoCalifer
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:03 PM
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Pull out now or pull out later? |
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I've heard many different opinions on this issue lately in the news and on various blogs. So, what do you all think? Pull out now? Or pull out later? ((audio)) http://members.cox.net/anti_globalist/out_of_iraq.wma.
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ironman202
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:04 PM
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1. pull out now=open civil war and another theocracy |
SoCalifer
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:06 PM
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The ONLY right thing to do is to pull out now.... Right now..
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Lars39
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:11 PM
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4. The Baghdad mayor was just replaced by a Shiite. |
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Women not getting equal rights in the constitution...theocracy's going to happen anyway.
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kenny blankenship
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:11 PM
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5. pull out later=open civil war and another theocracy |
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same shit, fewer Americans killed. Fewer Iraqis killed waiting for the showdown.
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:19 PM
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8. but we have to stay the course |
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and fight them in eye-rack so's we don't have to fight them on the streets of new york and its a glowball-struggle and don't fergit the dubya-em-dee.
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:17 PM
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what exactly would you call the situation in Iraq right now? Peace?
Why is it any of our business what sort of government the Iraqis choose to form?
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:55 PM
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10. Trouble is, pull out later equals the same thing |
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Any government that we set up is going to be considered illegitamite and illegal by Iraqis. This has always been the way of imperial conquests. Thus, once we leave, whenever that is, there is going be civil war, and perhaps another theocracy.
So, if this is what the end result is going to be no matter when we pull out, why not pull out now, and save that many more lives?
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:06 PM
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3. "Protect" the sheeple with a cable news condom |
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and you never have to pull out again!
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:17 PM
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6. Bush Sr should have pulled out in Oct 1945 |
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you see what happens when you don't pull out in time, the consequences can be devastating
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:49 PM
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9. Pull out yesterday, last week, last month, last year. Don't invade. |
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Now, all that's left to us is: pull out today.
U.S. troops are not making things better in Iraq; they're making them worse. The U.S. presence is not making us safer, it is putting us in greater danger. Pulling out will not avert horrible outcomes in Iraq, but neither will keeping U.S. forces there. Dubya broke it, now he can't fix it, we can't fix it, likely no one can fix it.
If the U.S. wants to play a positive role, it can lean on Turkey to leave the Iraqi Kurds alone when they declare their independence.
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Fri Aug-12-05 07:44 PM
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11. Help Syria set up refugee camps |
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for the Sunnis.
Then we can pull out and the Sadr militias can finish the war in a very short time.
I think that's how it's going to end up anyway.
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Fri Aug-12-05 07:58 PM
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12. Pull out later means more American deaths and more money spent on war. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 07:59 PM by Mountainman
I don't give a rat's ass what happens to Iraq. They will have their civil war after we leave anyway why don't we let them settle it their way?
We can do nothing but cause more people to turn against us and borrow more and more money to do it. We are passing the cost of this war onto our children and grand children who have nothing to do with this fight.
Those in the administration who want to stay in Iraq are making a killing off of war profits and you who support the stay in Iraq side and letting them get away with it. Shame in you!
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Fri Aug-12-05 09:44 PM
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13. Withdraw U.S. occupation forces. Reparations. |
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The U.S. occupation forces are part of the problem and need to withdraw immediately.
Iraq belongs to the Iraqi people, and ultimately they will determine the outcome of this catastrophe.
I’m afraid that the only contributions we can now make towards mitigating the hell we have created for the Iraqi people are technological and economic- and only from behind a veil of extreme shame and contrition with the U.N. as our liaison. That is assuming that we can ever re-establish credibility with the international community.
This isn’t to suggest that we can buy absolution; the annihilation of 100,000 Iraqi's and torture as policy are sins which can never be cleansed.
I can only hope that some day we may begin to repay a debt which can never be repaid, to beg forgiveness for atrocities which can never be forgiven.
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