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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:54 PM
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Prepare to puke - David Duke endorses Cindy Sheehan
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 03:26 PM by El Fuego
OH. MY. GOD.
http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=350

David Duke says:
(snip)

"Cindy Sheehan, a mother who lost a son in the Iraq War, is determined to prevent other mothers and fathers from experiencing the same loss."

"Courageously she has gone to Texas near the ranch of President Bush and braved the elements and a hostile Jewish supremacist media to demand a meeting with him and a good explanation why her son and other’s sons and daughters must die and be disfigured in a war for Israel rather than for America."


WHAT THE FUCK? :wtf: How dare he appropriate Cindy Sheehan for his antisemitic rants?? :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:57 PM
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and the 55% of white people in Louisiana who voted for him are with Bush
n/t
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:59 PM
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2. I'm goddamn PROUD to be in the other 45% of white Louisianians....
...that DID NOT! :patriot:
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:02 PM
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5. I'm surprised was the vote that close in Lousiana??
If so much as 40% of ALL people voted against Bush in Lousiana I'd be damn proud considering it's position in the south.

Shit I hear all this nonsense about Arizona being a new progressive hotbed and only southern arizona voted for Kerry by a SLIM margin.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:11 PM
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12. Kerry got 42.2% in Louisiana.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:20 PM
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15. That's cool that's better than Arizona I bet
and Arizona is right next to California...

Someday I want to visit the bayou someday just for the history of it I find it really interesting. Can't wait to seize the opportunity to check "New Oh-lean" see the jazz scene out there in sunny "Lous-ana" :)

Hehe sorry but I am a fan of Lousiana drawl it's so unlike any other kind of accent.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:57 PM
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1. he took your dare (or his own)--and is running with it. Sigh!!!
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:01 PM
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3. Well as the saying goes "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"
"Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel."

The Israel bit I don't know enough to say whether I agree or disagree but for him to bring up the PNAC DEAD ON just DEAD ON.

The PNAC is RARELY brought up in any political conversation which to me is a travesity.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:01 PM
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4. Another Rovian Turd to assist with CONfusion.
Duke Nukem creating another shit storm.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:03 PM
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6. Them darn Jewish supremacists!
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 03:04 PM by pdx_prog
They always do the craziest things....


What a waste of good oxygen this guy is....:)
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:05 PM
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7. Right. So how come if David Duke says it it's antisemitic
but if a "someone we approve of" says it, it's legitimate political discourse?

Gimme a break. The fact that Duke is weighing in on this should be a heads up, people. The sentiment is essentially bigoted and I'm sorry this person has been so sadly misled, and sadder that y'all can't figure this out already.

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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:10 PM
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9. That argument makes absolutely no sense whatever
What game are you playing at?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:15 PM
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14. Can you clarify?
Which sentiment are you referring to as essentially bigoted, and who that we approve of is saying "it" (and which "it")? And which person has been misled?

I seem to be missing something, but that's not unusual for me.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:29 PM
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18. WTF?
????
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:52 PM
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31. Baloney! I am Jewish and do not support Ariel Sharon's policies
and I can point you to THOUSANDS of other Jews that don't as well.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:21 PM
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33. Damn fuckin' straight, me too.
There is a difference from what Cindy said and what that motherfucker Duke said. A world of difference.

Occupation is wrong no matter who is doing it. Terrorism is wrong no matter who is doing it.

What the fuck is there to figure out, here!

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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:45 PM
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36. PNAC is a "Big Oil" front
The AIPAC-Israel-Sharon-Likud model is a little bit of an obsolete conspiracy theory. The real backers of the NeoCon Agenda are Big Oil, the armaments makers, and Carlyle.Now that oil is over $67/bbl, and gas is hitting $3.00/gallon, I would propose this more transparent conspiracy theory.

If you want conspiracy theories, I tie the whole Iraq War into a small group of "Big Money" players with "dogs in the fight" ("big Oil" - "Armaments - Carlyle) - not a bunch of right wing psuedo intellectuals with Straussian PhD dissertations from the University of Chicago or Johns Hopkins University - but real "big money" skinny on the table-

    * James A. Baker, III, Consigliere to Big Oil and to the "House of Saud" and to the "House of Bush"
    * Lee Raymond, PhD, CEO of Exxon Mobil
    * David O'Reilly, PhD, CEO of Texaco Chevron
    * Ray Irani, PhD, CEO of Occidental Petroleum
    * Lou Gerstner, CEO of Carlyle and former CEO of IBM
    * Rick Wagoner, CEO of General Motors
    * HRH Prince Bandar ibn Saud, former Saudi Ambassador to the US


Now, let's "connect the dots"

    * The US economy needs oil like a junkie needs heroin
    * While the rest of the world's auto industry gambled on smaller, lighter, more economical cars - the US "Big Three" gambled (and will apparently lose) on bigger, gas guzzling SUVs and pickups
    * There is a synergistic macabre "dance of death" between the "Big Three" and "Big Oil." (Do you remember "leaded gasoline" - our cars couldn't run without it -- a patent holding company and marketing company, Ethyl Corp, owned the patents and the distribution rights. Who "owned" Ethyl Corp? GM, Exxon, and DuPont. Now its a struggling industrial detergent company in St. Louis).
    * When "Big Oil" sneezes the "Big Three" get pneumonia - remember the "near death experiences" of the domestic auto makers every time there was an oil cut off or embargo.
    * Actually take the time to read "PNAC" - "Program for a New American Century" - (not the blogs - but the whole thing) I don't care what the Bloggers or the Chat Rooms say---

      o The primary goal in a "Post Cold War" unipolar world is to maintain a "Pax Americana"
      o One goal of the "Pax Americana" is to protect oil
      o To do this, under the PNAC model, the US must actively assert hegemony over the oil lands (just like post WW I Britain's "Sykes Picot Agreement"
      o Israel is an after thought - a secondary or tertiary beneficiary ("Lagniappe" as they say in French - "The Thirteenth Dough nut")
      o PNAC is All About OIL and Hegemony Over Oil
      o Our society, our prosperity depend on cheap oil. This is the assumption of the PNAC document.
      o And oil is becoming scarce in absolute terms (it's called "Peak Oil")
      o Oil is becoming scares in relative terms - as India and China compete for a shrinking supply of oil.

    * Hence, the need to "project power" to assert hegemony over oil.


"Hostile Jewish supremacist media"- is a weapon of mass distraction from the two "special interest" tag team of the American Petroleum Institute and the North American Automobile Manufacturers Association.

Let's push the "PNAC = Likud" and "PNAC = Big Three + Big Oil" Models

Ask yourself two questions (this is called "engineering sensitivity analysis" - you push one variable to zero or infinitely and tweak the others)

    1) What happens to the original model if you drop Israel and AIPAC out of the picture - but leave "Big Oil" and the "Big Three" in. I would submit - no change in the current situation.

    2) Now, what happens if you drop "Big Oil" and the "Big Three" out of the picture - but leave Israel and AIPAC in.
      If we suddenly discovered a major (Gulf of Mexico or Persian Gulf or Iraqi or Persian or Saudi level) find of crude in our western desert or Lake Michigan or Minnestoa's "Iron Mines" -- would we be pissing American lives away anywhere "for Israel?" To ask the question shows the absurditiy. AIPAC doesn't have near the power of Big Oil or the Big Three or the UAW.


Totally American Blood for Arab Oil
    For Big Oil and the Big Three
      Big Oil Sneezes - and Oil "Peaks" - and GM and Ford fall to Junk Bond status


PS - I am in the energy industry - have been for 30+ of the last 40 years
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:09 PM
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8. I smell a rat.
I bet the Bushies put him up to this.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:11 PM
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13. Oh now...you don't suppose Uncle KKkarl sent him some money do you?
That was my first thought. Kind of like the timing of Cindy's husband wanting a divorce. Hmmmm......
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:23 PM
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16. I wouldn't be surprised.
It makes perfect sense.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:36 PM
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20. I believe that Duke was genuinely against the war
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 03:38 PM by Hippo_Tron
As dead WRONG as he is on everything else, he is pretty much an isolationist on foreign policy.

I've listened to one KKK leader who was OUTRAGED about the Abu Ghreib incidents because it showed that white people had been corrupted and reduced themselves to the levels of inferior races.

Then again, Duke is known to take free money from whatever source he can get it.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:11 PM
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10. The Creature from the Black Lagoon can put on a mink coat
but it's still a monster despite the appearance.
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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:11 PM
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11. David Duke didn't say that last quote; Cindy Sheehan did
He is just quoting her.

Do you still consider it an anti-Semitic rant?
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:26 PM
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17. You're right. My bad.
Very lousy snipping on my part.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:33 PM
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19. Let's hope she is going to speak clearly against this endorsement
There cannot be any confusion between the anti-war movement and a racist antisemit.
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:39 PM
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21. Cindy needs to get on this fast, and publicly decline any support
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 03:39 PM by Rebellious Republica
offered by this neo nazi asswipe! Make a statement that leaves no doubt that she does not welcome his bile in her camp!

:grr:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:50 PM
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23. This is a good opportunity for her to clarify what she said about Israel
Now, she can use this as an opportunity to renounce both David Duke and anti-semitism.

People like this person:

Thorazine for Cindy Sheehan
http://usaexposure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=596

Are using her statement about Israel as a stick to beat her with and a wedge to drive between us.

David Duke gives her an opportunity to clarify herself and regain the faith of those who may have lost it.
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:16 PM
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26. Excellent thought you have there IanDB1, I agree. N/T
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:40 PM
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22. !!Screen Snap FR!! This won't be around long
Take screensnaps!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1463242/posts

I wonder if this will be reported by the MSM?!?
1 posted on 08/14/2005 12:31:17 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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I think Duke ought to go to Crawford and sing his praises there.

2 posted on 08/14/2005 12:32:54 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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LOL!

I wonder what the DUmmies think of this! LOL!
3 posted on 08/14/2005 12:34:40 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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David Duke deserves his own personal Zot.

4 posted on 08/14/2005 12:35:01 PM PDT by JRios1968 (If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.)
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Heh heh heh heh... oh yeah... a match made in heaven.

5 posted on 08/14/2005 12:35:07 PM PDT by wizardoz
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This is obviously the work of KKKarl Rove to discredit Sheehan.

6 posted on 08/14/2005 12:35:27 PM PDT by kenth
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Let him talk all he wants about Cindy. Tie him to her and she's done. Guilty white liberals will run like hell.

7 posted on 08/14/2005 12:36:15 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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Hey David .. you should go to Crawford and stand with Cindy .. go a head .. show your support for her

<snip>
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:15 PM
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25. Good work - busted.
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 04:16 PM by Burried News
Nice try Karl.
I be white. I'm gettin Liberal. I ain't guilty and I stand with Cindy.
It's your last hurrah Karl.
Has Bolton discussed the severance package with you yet or do you have to be in the slammer first? I wouldn't hold out for too much - Bolton can make Gannon look like a sweetheart.
Duke Nukem's shit storm ain't gonna work, Blossom.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:10 PM
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24. He doesn't like the aspect of the invasion which
Israel appreciated....de-fanging a power player in the Middle East.

He has a pathological hatred of Jews.

I simply don't want Israel's neo-con toadies running our foreign policy.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:17 PM
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27. Oy vey....why'd she have to bring Israel into this?
It's a pretty silly claim to begin with and it only encourages the anti-Semites to latch onto you.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:26 PM
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29. You see it for what it is. Except for the diehards everyone will see
it for what it is.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/081405D.shtml
"People who speak truth to power somehow are marginalized in this country.

I know you're going to be out there for the month of August. How long do you think the media's going to pay attention to you? Do you worry about that?

I don't really care. I didn't come out here to do this for the media. I came out here to do this to end the war. If the mainstream media's not here we've got blogs, we've got the Internet. It'll still keep going. Smart America will know what's going on. They're the ones who are going to put pressure on the elected officials to effect any change. "

Duke Nukem - shitstorm for hire.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:37 PM
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35. The neocons are the ones
who dragged Israel into this.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:19 PM
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28. It's a pretty well known tactic here in Louisiana
to have David Duke endorse a candidate who you are running against. So far, it's been pretty effective.

Sounds like the same type of thing, from a different angle.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:47 PM
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30. this frequently happens under a one party system..
revolution, dissent, and populism are frequently organized by those supporting radical political agendas. The danger isn't opposition to the majority party, but weak organization for the opposition to agree on some common goals.

But when people become this angry and divided, what will they turn to?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:06 PM
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32. I wonder what they pay him to say this
Isn't Duke related to Bush by the Blood and Honor ...ehm ...honor?

I always thought of them as close anyway.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:30 PM
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34. Wake up friends the Neo Nazi Aryan types have almost entirely been against
the war in Iraq. Many of them supported Kerry, because they believe Bush sold out completely to Israel. Thats why they have thing like the Voice of the Whithouse and TBRnews, they are front orgs set up to lead us away and into their disgusting movement.

This is a case where the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.

Cindy has no truck with these disgusting twerps at all, she was talking about occupation and the concerns that many non anti-semitic people have the world over that the US government over favors the Israel government in regards to Palestinian rights.

These scumsucking bottom feeders are just trying to hop a ride, I say we just give them the bird.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:58 PM
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37. I wonder who paid him to do this? nt
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:15 PM
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38. Locking
due to inflammatory subject matter. Thanks for your cooperation.

Julie
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