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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:55 AM
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women's rights not critical to Iraqi democracy
Some absolutely irritating sycophant from the Amer. Ent. Inst was on NBC just now trying to compare US of 1900 to Iraq of today.

Wait a sec. Under Saddam, women were free.
Under a US tailored Iraqi constitution they won't be? THIS IS PROGRESS?

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:00 AM
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1. Women belong in the kitchen to these Stepford clowns
Their own nominee for the Supreme Court, Judge Roberts, wrote against equal pay for equal work. They probably wish they could subjugate women in America as the Shias do in Iran and in Southern Iraq.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:02 AM
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2. That creep also said Iraq is going well - civil war unlikely.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:02 AM
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3. More power for fewer people
Yes, depending on who you are, that is progress.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:06 AM
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4. So, what rebuttal did the liberal guest offer up?
:rofl: I crack myself up! A liberal guest to offset the bull goose loony Republican delusional. Whoever heard of such a thing?

I wonder if the "liberal" media whores will be interviewing Private Lynch or General Karpinski anytime soon to ask them how they feel about fighting a war that will set the cause of women's rights in Iraq back 150 years or so?

:rofl:
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:08 AM
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5. I may be wrong
but I don't think the US was occupied by a foreign power and in the middle of a guerrilla war in 1900 and putting together a system of government at the behest of said occupying power. I don't know but I don't think that happen.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:11 AM
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6. Four legs good, two legs BETTER!
In our Orwellian world this makes sense. We are making Iraq free to set back the clock 100 years. Let freedom reign!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:17 AM
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7. How dare he
I couldn't believe my ears... would this mysogenistic SOB consider losing his civil rights (a.k.a. "freedom")- were he a woman- a victory for 21st century Iraq?

OUT-F*CKING-RAGEOUS. The host had an obligation to say SOMETHING in spite of running the clock.

So, have we facilitated the best Iraqi democracy of the 19th century, birkas and all, by our illegal invasion?

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:21 AM
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8. spouse and I dropped our jaws at the same time
The thing is, he said it as though he really believes it - that women can lose their freedom for a century and have to refight a battle long gone - EVEN IN IRAQ!

I did not catch his name. Anyone remember it?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:38 AM
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9. Larry Diamond
whoever the f*ck he is.

I wonder- does this viewpoint represent Bushco marketing lowered expectations on what can be accomplished given Iraq's impending civil war and a constituion that incorporates Islamic law in favor of U.S.-style democratic principles- or is it a revealing glimpse into their mysogenistic worldview that women do not require the same rights as men?

How sickening. No wonder these scum spend their waking hours thinking of ways to take strong women (politics aside)down- like Hillary Clinton. It galls them to see a woman with not just as much, but more power than most men.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:40 AM
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10. What makes you think
he doesn't really believe it? Plenty of people have believed it before. Just because we're in 2005, doesn't mean thoughts of days gone by are gone as well. Just like power. It never tries to stop centralizing and consolidating just because we have a piece of paper that limits the power of power.

Reuel Marc Gerecht

http://www.aei.org/scholars/scholarID.19,filter.all/scholar.asp

http://www.newamericancentury.org/reuelmarcgerechtbio.htm

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/gerecht/gerecht.php
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:01 PM
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11. It's time for a global women's party of peace and freedom
:bounce: :bounce:
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:21 PM
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12. Saddam in comparison was a feminist
As a determined secularist, he sternly suppressed fundamentalist religious groups and allowed women to decide their marriages, own property, and get strong educations and high-ranking jobs. The lion's share for example of doctors, scientists, even many legal and political officials in secular Baathist Iraq were women-- Nicholas Kristof discussed this in one of his op-eds from before. And so we'll be spending a trillion dollars and killing thousands of our young men and women-- to create a theocratic Shiite Taliban that rules the country. "Mission Accomplished"?
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