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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:06 AM
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CNN - "DEAD WRONG" documentary on Iraq intelligence is posted ONLINE!!!
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 01:09 AM by Nothing Without Hope
The documentary "DEAD WRONG" HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE at links given in the blog Daily Dissent at this permalink:
http://dissent.blogspot.com/2005_08_21_dissent_archive.html#112468417697093792

Here are the the blog entry's direct links to the 10 parts of the program:

Part 1: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong01
Part 2: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong02
Part 3: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong03
Part 4: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong04
Part 5: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong05
Part 6: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong06
Part 7: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong07
Part 8: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong08
Part 9: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong09
Part 10: http://media.putfile.com/DeadWrong10

DUers have given this documentary on the history and use of intelligence on Iraq'a WMDs a mostly positive reviews- some of them VERY positive. I have not yet seen it, but it's said to make Tenet look bad but to make it clear that Bush refused to listen to intelligence that didn't say what he wanted to hear. It's apparently showing part of the Downing Street Minutes' "fixing the intelligence" - and that's got to be good overall.

Here are some DU threads on "Dead Wrong", which is being aired multiple times::

One thread has been set up to celebrate converts to sanity who were finally turned from the KoolAid by watching it!:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4419809
Thread title: CNN's Dead Wrong: Report your converts here!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4417699
thread title: 'Dead Wrong' CIA report on CNN Now!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4414730
Thread title: Is anyone else watching "CNNI Presents" ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1712485
thread title: CNN: Former aide: Powell WMD speech 'lowest point in my life'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4398643
thread title: Josh Marshall on CNN's "Dead Wrong -- Inside an Intelligence Meltdown"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2025021
Thread title: If You Liked CNN's "Dead Wrong" and think

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:11 AM
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1. Definitely worth watching and being aware of, nothing...
Thanks for the link.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:24 AM
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3. I really love that Oliphant panel you chose for your sig line. For those
who haven't seen the full cartoon, it is not to be missed:

(the image below may take a little extra time to display)

http://www.allhatnocattle.net.nyud.net:8090/ol8115.jpg

...and my DU friends call me Hope. I've grown to like it a lot.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:42 AM
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30. I guess it sounds better than 'nothing,' hope!
;-)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:55 PM
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42. VIDEO LINKS HAVE BEEN CHANGED - THEY ARE NOW AT THIS SITE:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:21 AM
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2. Thanks.
Don't have cable. Will watch online.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:28 AM
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4. Can someone with the know-how
Plz cut the adverts and choose better cut-off points between the parts?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:32 AM
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5. Probably it will be done later by someone else - this was rushed to make
it available. It's not yet available anywhere else that I know of. I figure the adverts can be seen as the price we pay CNN for seeing it, so I don't mind too much. I don't have cable, so I can't see it any other way.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:31 AM
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21. Wouldn't that be against copyright laws? nt
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:08 AM
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6. Thank you so much!
I'm on the night shift and didn't get a chance to see this. I really appreciate you compiling the program and the DU links. :yourock:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:33 AM
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11. YVW. I'm really grateful to the person who rushed this onto the net.
I don't have cable. If you do have cable, you'll be interested to hear that CNN will air it three more times on Aug 27. I've posted on this downthread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2025050#2025149
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:13 AM
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7. Though the recording has advertisements and it isn't optimized to break
between parts at the perfect moment, I was very happy to see this available so quickly and thought some other people would be also. More tightly edited version(s) may well be posted later.

For me, I don't mind the advertisements so much, since I see it as my price to CNN to watch it - I don't have cable, so it's the only way I can.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:36 AM
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34. I can't get the audio right. Very low, so low I can't hear! What am I
doing wrong? I'm on full blast in the control panel.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:14 AM
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8. wow--this is great
i sent cnn an email telling them that i thought it was very good and am hoping they will air it several more times.

thanks for the links!


if you like it tell cnn:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?14
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:27 AM
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9. No Kidding....
I am a Left Coaster, and I think I have seen it three times today. They do need to do more in depth coverage like this.....
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:28 AM
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10. CNN will air "Dead Wrong" again three times on Aug 27- here are ET times:
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 02:29 AM by Nothing Without Hope
CNN USA air times | All times ET

DATES: TIMES:

Sunday, August 21
Dead Wrong: Inside an Intelligence Meltdown 8 p.m., 11 p.m.

Saturday, August 27
Dead Wrong: Inside an Intelligence Meltdown< 3 p.m., 8 p.m., 11 p.m.

More info on the show at the CNN page here: http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents
(This doesn't seem to be a permalink to the page on this specific documentary - couldn't find a permalink. The page has links to a couple of video clips from the show.)

With this many show airings, CNN is obvioiusly investing heavily in the expectation that many people will watch it and approve of it. They also must be very sure that they won't be Rathered - it must be very tightly corroborated and documented.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:09 AM
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31. they showed it at 2AM also this morning.
if you are a night person like me...i saw it three times...i was so happy with cnn finally going back to its roots...in depth news i almost cried. yes its a year late and a dollar short but its the NEWS not silly gossip and gubment propaganda.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:53 AM
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12. Thank you! No cable here so that was a treat
I still think they are pinning this more on "fawlty intel" than the real culprit: the Bush* cabal. However, they take a couple of swipes at him.

The points where they show actual footage of these liars saying these things are going to come in handy down the road.

I'm glad they did it, but I don't think the majority of the American sheeple will get it. Sorry. I just doubt most of them are that smart anymore. But if this gets archived for later...so much the better.

Don't think there is anything all that patriotic about CNN finally doing this...just think they are trying to figure out which side of the bread has the butter and hoping this will work out for them in the long road. Doubt they have much interest in reporting the truth, even though they did it here.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:09 AM
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14. I do think it's a good sign that they dare to air this at all - shows the
poliltical climate is shifting. I do wonder how many powerful people are nervous that the bugnuts in the White House and the Pentagon will start a nuclear world war over Iran. Maybe even the Poodle Press has a limit somewhere.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:05 AM
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13. I've thanked the person who posted the video links on their blog
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:17 AM
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15. I watched it and I was stunned!
I'm such a loon...I took notes! IMO, it was LOADED with info...

Peace.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:18 AM
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16. If anyone wants to thank CNN for finally telling it like it is:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?14

The'yre gonna get ALOT of heat from the freepers and the WH about this, so it couldn't hurt to show them some support for speaking the truth.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:31 AM
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18. You are so right. I will write them tomorrow.
They must feel confident of not being Rathered. This showing - and it will be aired three more times Aug 27! - shows that CNN is aware that many people have begun to question the simple story spun by the White House and the Pentagon about the leadup to the Iraq War. Maybe the Downing Street Minutes and all the other evidence are finally beginning to sink in?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:36 AM
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24. Thanks; positive e-mail happily sent. nt
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:28 AM
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17. CNN has posted two video clips from this show:
The links are currently on the right side of this page: http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents
(I don't see a permalink - you may have to look for the program by name later)

There isn't a direct link available for me to put here, but here are the titles of the two clips:
  • "Former Secretary of State Colin Powell makes the case for war with Iraq to the United Nations."
  • "While the mission in Iraq is declared a success no WMDs have been found."

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:18 AM
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19. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ontobush Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:10 AM
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23. This story has been told before
I'm glad that CNN aired this program. My problem with it is that it didn't talk about the PNAC.

If you want a good documentary on the Bush administration and how they and the PNAC are one in the same and how they fixed intelligence, you should go to your local video store and see if they have this.

http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org

Check out the video clips. This documentary makes 'Dead Wrong' look like it's praising Bush.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:35 AM
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45. Hi ontobush!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:25 AM
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20. Thanks for the links. n/t
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:01 AM
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22. this was absolutely amazing! Do commend CNN by email
This was very brave of them to show, and may indicate they are doing being a Fox wanna be.

1 full hour of the truth on national TV. Unbelievable.

A MUST SEE.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:46 AM
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25. Kick so I remember to watch it tonight
My SO and I are thinking of getting cable, he can't stand missing the Daily Show. I have mixed feelings, but at least I'll be able to watch stuff like this!
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:53 AM
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26. Thank you!!
Thanks Hope!! I don't have cable either and look forward to watching this!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:12 AM
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27. Thank you Hope!!
Peace.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:36 AM
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28. Thank you for posting this! Nominated and kicked. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:36 AM
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29. Ohio_Liberal has posted a link to a Torrent file for the show:
The torrent file is 259 mb. The page with the file info and the download link is here:
http://liberaltorrents.allhyper.com/torrents.php?mode=details&id=75cd57ee773646967ed34c1c94f13b67573e75e9

Here's the comment posted with the torrent file:
dead wrong: inside an intelligence meltdown President Bush's case for pre-emptive war against Iraq was based substantially on evidence that Saddam Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction. But a presidential commission described the pre-war intelligence as 'dead wrong.' CNN Presents pieces together the chain of events that led to the faulty intelligence, or in other words, why america is so fucked. 45 minutes, xvid encoded
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:06 AM
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32. Yahoo TV looks like it will be reaired Saturday 27th 2,7, 10 CST
Not sure if that is correct or not but it is listed there.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:09 AM
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33. Anybody else having volume problems with "Dead Wrong"?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:55 PM
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41. VIDEO LINKS HAVE BEEN CHANGED - THEY ARE NOW AT THIS SITE:
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bnr65432 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:45 AM
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35. thanks
i ddont get cnn so i couldnt watch this before now
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:18 PM
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36. and if anyone wants to buy a videotape for a friend:
I would just burn one myself but for those who don't have DVD burners, you can go with this route:


Are you looking to purchase a videotape of one of the shows?
You may order a video and/or transcript of a program or segment from any of the following sources:

Multivision can provide tapes or transcripts of CNN for the past year, and for CNNI, CNNfn or Headline News for the past two months. Call or write at (800-560-0111) (925-472-8880), http://www.multivisioninc.com/

Video Monitoring Service can provide tapes or transcripts of CNN, CNNl, CNNfn, or Headline News for the previous 2 months. Call or write them at (877-698-8007) (212-736-2010), http://www.vidmon.com



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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:28 PM
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37. This is excellent...TU for the post. I watched it twice, and my VCR
sound wasn't working, so I tape recorded the sound the second time. I was waiting for the transcripts to send to family and friends. It will be aired again (unless someone prevents it) this weekend.

Kick and nominated.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:55 PM
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38. AND a kick
because everyone should see this!
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:58 PM
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39. I couldn't get the top links to work...said media removed.....n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:53 PM
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40. VIDEO LINKS HAVE BEEN CHANGED - THEY ARE NOW AT THIS SITE:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:16 PM
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44. Links to video
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:50 PM
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46. Great - thank you!!! n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:59 PM
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43. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:04 PM
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47. Kick - be sure to check the latest replies for the updated video links n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:58 PM
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48. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:13 AM
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49. Viewers tune in and respond to "Dead Wrong" - see this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4439023
Thread title: Viewers Tune In -- And Respond -- To CNN's 'Dead Wrong' Documentary
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:13 PM
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50. BE SURE TO USE THESE VIDEO LINKS, provided by DUer zulchzulu:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:22 PM
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51. thanks.
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:22 PM
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52. kick
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:04 PM
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53. Be sure to use the video links late in the thread - the ones in the OP
won't work any more because the host was changed at least twice.
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