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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:58 PM
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Bush May Really Be Going Down
I think his spending a whole month at the ranch and riding his bike has really hurt him. Normally it probably wouldn't make the news but with Cindy S. sitting out there it became painfully obvious.

Remember - he was riding his bike when the plane flew over restricted airspace. And no one even told him until an hour or so late.

And I think he was riding his bike the next time, too - only they interrupted his bike ride to tell him.

And then he was riding his bike in the UK and ran into the bobbie.

So here we all are with rising gas prices and the war completely falling apart - and he's riding his bike.

That is just plain odd.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:00 PM
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1. Don't count on that, Hitler would spend long periods at his...
...mountain retreat in the Bavarian Alps and he ruled Germany from January 1933 all the way through April 1945.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 PM
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3. Hmmm, twelve years?
As in 1994 to 2006?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:04 PM
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5. Perhaps....
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 PM
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4. I don't think Bush is comparable to Hitler
Whole different ballgame.

I think people really thought Bush was a good, honest, decent guy. And he's not. And it's starting to sink in.
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:08 PM
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6. I think bush is exactly like Hitler
many who voted for him knew full well he was full of hate -
just like them. The rest of us stand around and watch Hitler/bush
do his dirt, aware and horrified but pretty much unable to do anything about it.
I have a whole new respect for the Germans who watched Hitler
without taking action against him. I have become one of them.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:25 PM
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22. In many ways our situation is more frustrating
than that of the Germans in Hitler's day because we are so much more informed about the massive corruption in our government and about the atrocities being committed in our name. They give us the illusion that we're free because we can talk about everything and demonstrate without getting carted off to a concentration camp (unless we're of the "wrong" ethnicity), but in reality we're not free at all, because nothing changes and we're still trapped, despite our knowledge. People always rag on the average Germans under Hitler for not "doing something," but we seem to be almost as helpless as they were. It drives me crazy.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:06 PM
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13. Bush is not only exactly like Hitler, but has direct ties to Nazi Germany
The "comparisons" so to speak are entirely appropriate.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:30 PM
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23. Interesting if the end of Bush.........
.....is just like Hitlers. Would that be an appropriate comparison?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:36 PM
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24. best if he's brought to justice early...
Particularly before he attempts a "Final Solution" to the "liberal problem."
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:02 PM
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2. At least he is promoting a non-gas transportation alternative
:P
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:08 PM
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7. Well, that's true.
I read somewhere that he and the family are heavily invested in solar.

I just think people are still Republican - they just don't think Bush is the great guy they once did. Too many holes in the facade.

Course, it doesn't really matter now, does it? Now, its the 2006 elections that matter. And I think we will see more Hagels turning away from Bush. Distancing themselves.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:11 PM
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9. Yes they know time is runing short on fossil fuels, so they will
clean up big time as peak oil happens, and then they will clean up again on alternative energies.

Disgusting, isn't it?
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:08 PM
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8. good one
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:50 PM
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12. He most certainly is.
:)
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:30 PM
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10. This Wheel's on Fire
Bob Dylan

If your mem'ry serves you well,
We were goin' to meet again and wait,
So I'm goin' to unpack all my things
And sit before it gets too late.
No man alive will come to you
With another tale to tell,
But you know that we shall meet again
If your mem'ry serves you well.
This wheel's on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!

If your mem'ry serves you well,
I was goin' to confiscate your lace,
And wrap it up in a sailor's knot
And hide it in your case.
If I knew for sure that it was yours . . .
But it was oh so hard to tell.
But you knew that we would meet again,
If your mem'ry serves you well.
This wheel's on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!

If your mem'ry serves you well,
You'll remember you're the one
That called on me to call on them
To get you your favors done.
And after ev'ry plan had failed
And there was nothing more to tell,
You knew that we would meet again,
If your mem'ry served you well.
This wheel's on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:38 PM
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11. Nah, he's just restin' up so's he kin make some a them CRISP decisions.




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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:09 PM
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14. Thank you for the photos that bring it all home.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:14 PM
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15. Using that bike just like alcohol!
He's now an exercise addict, hooked on the endorphins. He's also using it to distract himself from reality. So much so that he even felt that he could use his need to have "balance" in his life as an excuse--he doesn't know how it looks to those of us out here.

Think back to the Carter administration--which didn't even feel comfortable campaigning for reelection with the hostage crisis going on. Hm.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:18 PM
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16. That's EXACTLY what Eleanor Clift said in Newsweek...
I posted the article here on DU when it was published.

If you haven't read it, here's the link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9008721/site/newsweek/

A Historical Footnote
Cindy Sheehan represents only a small part of America’s greater tragedy in Iraq.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Eleanor Clift
Newsweek
Updated: 4:27 p.m. ET Aug. 19, 2005

Aug. 19, 2005 - Any other politician who had a Gold Star mother in his driveway would get the cameras rolling, give her a big hug and gain points for compassion. Instead of doing what should come naturally to a democratic leader, President George W. Bush deepened the crisis enveloping his presidency by arrogantly refusing to grant Cindy Sheehan an audience. He may have missed that opportunity for good now that Sheehan has rushed to California to see about her ailing mother.

Before Sheehan left Crawford, Texas, on Thursday, Bush explained to reporters that he needs to get on with his life, a remark stunningly insensitive to the thousands of maimed soldiers returning from Iraq, and the families of the more than 1,800 dead. Cycling, his new exercise narcotic, is important, he went on, because Americans want to know that their president leads a balanced life. No, Mr. President, we just want to know that you’re balanced, period.

There’s a war going on. Americans are dying, and so are Iraqis. August is already one of the bloodiest months since this ill-fated venture was launched more than three years ago. “Setting aside talking to Cindy Sheehan, he should be talking to (the American people),” says Marshall Wittman, a policy analyst with the centrist Democratic Leadership Council and a former adviser to Sen. John McCain. Wittman supported the invasion of Iraq, but says the management of the war has been a failure. He can’t think of a single Republican elected official who defends the way the administration is handling the war. “They’re hiding,” he says.

So is Bush. A five-week vacation is a luxury you’d expect of a French president, not an American leader in the midst of a war. Maybe he’s agonizing in private and rethinking his strategy, but his behavior conveys an unsettling disconnect from reality. His problem is not Cindy Sheehan and her heroic stand but the facts on the ground in Iraq and an administration in disarray over what to do. It’s becoming clear this is not a winnable war. The insurgency is not in its last throes, as the vice president claimed some months ago. It’s getting stronger, and the notion that an Iraqi Army can take over any time soon is pure fantasy. “We’re training up the civil-war factions of tomorrow,” says an aide on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:27 PM
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17. ...and here it is in graphic form, for those who want it. It's a keeper.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:41 PM
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18. no I hadn't read that---thanks! n/t
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:44 PM
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19. At least he isn't burning more fossil fuel. Bikes rule...
I'd prefer a society in which communities were so organized that one could walk and bike most places and also bike to light rail to go to neighboring communities.

People wouldn't be as fat, the air would be cleaner, and we wouldn't need to invest our troops in oil-rich countries.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:09 PM
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20. Frankly, I wish he would take a PERMANENT vacation,
maybe then he would do the least amount of damage! That creature from Crawford is totally incompetent!!
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:20 PM
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21. Especially when
the 'freedom' we're supposed to providing to Iraqi's is one big flop of a farce. Now women will never have the saem choices we do. Now what - are we gona invade the government we set up because they're *gasp* still not like us?
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