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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:46 PM
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Is it me or is the spin on Robertson already begun....
He now didn't call for Chavez's assassination, he inferred it or implied it or it was part of an overall speech....

I didn't hear what he said, frankly I don't want to, but even to imply or infer that someone should be killed because they are proud of their own country and want to control their open destiny with out Fucking George W. and his minions looking over his shoulder on broadcast TV in front of children and family's is one of the most unconscionable acts committed by an American......

Why does Pat Robertson hate America so much
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:48 PM
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1. I've heard that he hates freedom too.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:51 PM
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2. And non christians as well...
I just don't get this. Where is the uproar and the outcry...

Remember Sista Soldja and when Clinton took her down a peg....

They say she ws pandering to the middle but god damn it, that's where most of us are.....

Bush should be out there right now denouncing this ass hole.....
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:51 PM
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3. Oh bullshit. He outright said that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
have one rogue agent do the deed rather than have to have another 260 billion dollar war. Not only did he call for the assasination, but he also lied about what it costs to destabilize a country and do away with its leader.

Robertson is an amoral ass.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:31 PM
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16. Here's an idea: no imperial assasination AND no imperial wars!
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 07:32 PM by 1932
How about that perverse logic: Bush runs up the tab on a war to such a degree that it now justifies political assassinations to save money!

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:55 PM
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4. you should watch the Robertson clip
you'll see Robertson is mostly preoccupied with oil, which struck me as odd. I went to church as a kid and I don't remember much discussion of commodities, so it sounded odd to me to hear a religious leader so preoccupied...
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:17 PM
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13. Oil and diamonds - can't forget when he got really mad at Bush
for overthrowing his diamond partner. And you can bet he's got a whole lot of oil stock stashed away behind his pulpit which he bought with the money little old ladies sent him to carry on his "ministry". There's a perfect place in Hell for Mr. Robertson.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:55 PM
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5. No, he really did call for Chavez' assassination.
He wants it done by US covert operatives. He implied he wants it done under Presidential sanction, but he didn't actually say so, and any truly covert operation is done without international legal cover in contravention of the laws of war. He firmly advocated the assassination as an alternative to a costly war, saying assassination's a lot cheaper.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:02 PM
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11. absolutely correct
I heard the tape. He absolutely said he thought Chavez should be asassinated. So there we have it.

I never thought I would hear this, at least from a guy who graduated from Yale (here in my home town of New Haven). Dear god. I'll bet his classmates are hiding in shame.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:57 PM
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6. It's not new or anything
It's been done numerous times. It'll happen again. The Defense Department isn't going away. The defense contractors that are always making new weapons aren't going anywhere. The CIA, or any other agency, isn't going away.

More people will die. They have to; you don't invest that much money to just have bombs and bullets sit on the shelf.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:58 PM
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7. He also hates the American poor enough to pay for their
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 07:03 PM by Amonester
benefactor wannabe in order to get him assassinated by his "macho" murderers...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4438489

<...snip...>

"The Venezuelan president for the first time offered to help impoverished U.S. communities with their fuel needs as well, complaining that middle men have taken advantage of the American poor by pushing up the prices of gasoline and diesel unnecessarily high.

"We could also help some poor communities in the United States, directly selling them gasoline," Chavez said."


<...end...>

The SOB Robertson hates all impoverished U.S. communities. No doubt. :grr:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:59 PM
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8. On the other hand, during Clinton the CIA was trying to figure out
if it was legal to assassinate Osama. Oh wait - that was about national security, not oil.

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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:00 PM
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9. That just like what he did after 9/11
Remember when he had Jerry Falwell on the 700 Club and the two of them were saying that 9/11 happened because God is pissed off at America because of gays, etc.

Days later, Robertson was crawfishing and claiming the whole thing was "out of context/misquoted/misconstrued/misinterpreted/I never said it."
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:00 PM
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10. Its really sick to watch the spin....
I watched a discussion on CNN with Wolf Blitzer, Jesse Jackson, and some pseudo-Christian Reverend dickhead, who called Chavez an evil dictator (or something like that), Nobody bothered to challenge that statement or to mention that Chavez keeps winning elections and re-call attempts in some of the most monitored elections that have ever been held.

He is not a dictator, so stop saying that, you motherfuckers!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:27 PM
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14. Here Here Here.....
All ye listen....
The guy was elected.....
Best point made.....
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:10 PM
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12. You need to read what he actually said. He made it clear that
assassination was preferable to a "200 billion dollar war" and that his major concern was whether the flow of oil would be interrupted - he thought it probably wouldn't. You need to see exactly what this supposed "man of god" said. Guess his copy of the 10 Commandments was lacking several. In fact, now that I think about it, his copy must be missing MOST of them. Doesn't seem to hurt his popularity - I've never understood that.

Here's part of his quote - it's in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1719323


You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:28 PM
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15. That doctrine was established to stop european meddling
in the Western Hemisphere, not to continue to rape pillage and plunder the resource rich but back water countries to our south....

Fuck him....
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:33 PM
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17. Repubs don't agree with Chavez...
so he's gotta go, and preferably in the manner Robertson mentioned.

I rank them right up there with those in other countries who don't agree with Bush and would like to see him go too,
preferably in the manner Robertson mentioned. I see no difference. None.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:13 PM
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18. Not only did he say it, but he elaborated. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:15 PM
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19. Why does Pat Robertson hate people of faith?
Can we spin it like that? Can we, can we, huh?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:25 PM
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20. All the spin I've seen has been NEGATIVE on his terrorism.
Lead story on networks and newspapers.

:shrug:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:31 PM
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21. I saw a poll and it was running about 4:1 negative - but that meant that
about 20% of responders thought it was just fine for Robertson to issue a fatwa on Chavez just like the radical Muslim clerics he professes to despise for their terrorist tactics. That's a lot of supporters of murder. Wasn't that against one of the 10 Commandments? Guess Robertson's version leaves out a few of the inconvenient ones.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:35 PM
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22. sounds like he is pulling a Rush Limbaugh...saying he didn''t
say something that can be verified by replaying a recording. dumbass.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:39 PM
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23. There is NO spin for this. Stick a fork in him, he's done! n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:34 PM
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24. Jon Stewert took him to the Daily Show shed.......
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:36 PM
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25. Can we expect a Robertson retraction? tell tammy faye about it
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