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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:09 AM
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Tucker Carlson is declaring Clark DOA on CNN as we speak
I want to hit him. In the face.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:10 AM
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1. in the face?
i was thinking a couple of feet lower....
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:46 AM
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21. No you got it all wrong
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 09:47 AM by Mobius
Strangle him by that stupid bow tie. Clark got the first votes and has the actual lead so far. I for one will enjoy seeing Tuker's Tear streaked face, as he looks in on the Clark White House from outside the gates with the other tourists :)
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:13 AM
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28. Same guy who predicted a Dean victory in Iowa
So technically this is a good thing.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:10 AM
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2. Why do they put the pukes on to handicap our races?
I mean at least have Carville talking. Now a fucking twit like Tucker.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:19 AM
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11. for the 100 th time the media wants to pick the winner
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 AM
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3. this may actually help us
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 AM
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They love him! They really love him!
The Repugs are desperate.

Tucker's a geek. News flash for ya: Bow ties are DOA.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 AM
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4. Jay-sus!!
OK, I'm a big fan of freedom of speech, but J-F-C...!!!

I can't believe how pervasive their message is.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 AM
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5. Is he ready to eat that other shoe?
that he started eating when he said Hillary's book would not sell a million...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:12 AM
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7. I hope so, but this is a dangerous day
to have these assholes making uninformed comments WHILE votes are being cast.
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cid Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 AM
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10. Did you read Peggy Noonans column on Clark in the WSJ?
It ticked me off so much im tempted to send the guy a donation and he isnt my #1 pick. god save us from sanctimonious columnists.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:38 AM
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36. Yes, she's crazed... go here for more
No question. She's unhinged.

Go here for more: Peggy Noonan declares GOP fear of General Clark
.
.
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p.s. :bounce: Please *do* send money :bounce:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:12 AM
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6. Are democrats that vote in primaries so stupid
That they can't tell RW propoganda?

I will hang tough with the General. I know he is the right guy for the job AND he can beat Bush.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:19 AM
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30. Clark is our hope.
We have to hang tough with Clark. The right wing media is going to do everything they can to take him down. Last night Jeff Greenfield on CNN was saying how terrible this week was for Clark, he said he did terribly in the debate and on Meet The Press. I disagree, he stood by Michael Moore and very eloquently fielded the usual bombs from Tim Russert.

I think they can't stand Clark and are terrified. If they weren't they wouldn't be wasting their precious breath on trying to destroy his chances.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:13 AM
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8. The GOP is unanimous. Dems should not vote for Clark. n/t
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:13 AM
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9. Ha, I like that perspective.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:20 AM
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12. Shouldn't it be left up to the Democrats
in the various primary and caucus states to decide if Clark is DOA? Or any of the candidates.

I despise all the right wing pundits and NEVER watch any of them. Perhaps that's one reason my blood pressure stays low.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:21 AM
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13. Scarborough said the same thing
on Hardball last night.

All the R-wingers are reading off the same memo.

Top that off with the fact that Ralph Reed and Frankkk Luntz showed up at a Clark rally over the weekend and the strategy becomes obvious:

minimize his candidacy
over-state gaffs
starve him from publicity/commentary

It's happening broadly across all medium.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:28 AM
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14. Reed and Luntz Showed Up At A Clark Rally

wow.

definitely desperately trying shut down Clark.

They must be worried enough to push the shut down over and over.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:31 AM
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15. Tucker is trying to protect the worst person who could possibly lead us.
Yes, the squatter in Al Gore`s White House. It is his job as a propagandist to talk his crap. And for folks who do not like to actually use their brains I am sure it works. I take one look at Carlson and I see a pompous ass wimp. Who thinks he is above counting votes of poor Florida voters like me. He is garbage like the squatter he protects.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:34 AM
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16. Makes me want to support Clark
even more.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:37 AM
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17. what ???
was he in a small aircraft that somehow fell out of the sky? doa..those crazy media whores they are so colorful. he must be getting his morning woodie just thinking about clark being doa....
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:37 AM
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18. The trouble with Clark is…
His supporters want to contrast him with the Deserter in Chief. And when Peter Jennings gave him an opening the other night at the debates he didn’t attack. Don’t get me wrong I like Clark but he’s not exploiting his advantage. If Bush is a deserter and we all know he is, than call him on it and make it an issue. I thought that was the whole purpose of running General Clark in the first place. Being kind to George Bush isn't going to get him to the White House.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:43 AM
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20. Weak argument
other candidates said Clark should have spoken out in support of bush against Moore. He did not.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:45 PM
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40. I'm not trying to argue against Clark.
I'm just saying, and this applies to any other candidate, they can't wait for the media to expose the un-elected fraud. It's been four years and the Media is still AWOL on just about anything that puts Bush in a negative light. If Bush is going to answer for being a deserter then it's the Democratic candidates that are going to have to call him on it. Clark and Kerry both have an advantage with their war records and they need to use them to the fullest. I don't see any reason to hold back.
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Torgo4 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:41 PM
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47. Clark Caught in (Uniform Code of Military Justice) UCMJ Bind!
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 01:41 PM by Torgo4
Uniform Code of Military Justice
Section 802 Article 2 Persons Subject To This Charter

#4 Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.

Section 888 Article 88 Contempt Toward Officials

Any COMMISSIONED officeer who uses contemptuous words against the PRESIDENT, the VICE-PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, the SECRETARY OF A MILITARY DEPARTMENT, the SECERTARY OF TRANSPORTATION, or the GOVERNOR or LEGISLATURE of any State, Territory, Commonwealth or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


+++The Bush Admin wouldn't hesitate for a moment to play dirty using this little ditty. Even if it got thrown out it could tie up Clark for years---IN A COURTS MARTIAL!


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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:23 PM
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44. "Being kind to George Bush isn't going to get him to the White House."
General Clark has been anything BUT kind to George Bush. What Clark was doing was not KIND, it was SMART. If Clark had just come right out and said, "Yes, I agree with Mike, Bush is a deserter," that would have ended the debate -- and Clark's candidacy -- right there.

Instead, for several days, everyone -- even Faux News -- has been talking about Michael Moore calling Bush a deserter, and that has led to the truth seeping out in this election year in a way it didn't in 2000. By Clark being non-committal on the deserter question, it's gotten a lot more press coverage than it otherwise would have... and the press coverage it HAS received is slightly more credible, even leading some people to try to figure out whether Bush was a deserter, or just AWOL (sort of like wondering if he's still beating his wife).

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:41 AM
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19. Tucker is the same pundit that said Dean would win in Iowa n/t
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:47 AM
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22. Last night on CNN................

Jeff Greenfield attacked Clark in a long rant against him.......
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:59 AM
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23. Yep saw that one too
Its quite amazing the little things he put together to make that rant. And Aaron Brown didn't do anything but smile.

here's the transcript starting with Bill Schneider:
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/26/asb.00.html


SCHNEIDER: Well, Wesley Clark says -- I asked him. I asked his people, does he have enough money to go on? They said he can go on probably to Wisconsin. Because he's raised a lot of money. I don't think Dennis Kucinich or Joe Lieberman are going to be able do that really.

Look after the top three. Numbers 4, five, and six are going to have to think real hard about whether they continuing that race. Al Sharpton is a special case because he has a base in South Carolina.

Wesley Clark's probably got the biggest question because; I believe if Wesley Clark had run in Iowa, he might have been John Kerry. He might have won Iowa, because he looks electable. His problem is, he competes with Kerry on electability. He competes with Dean as the outsider. He competes with Edwards as the southerner. He competes with Lieberman as the guy who can attract Republicans.

So people who are looking for those qualities have somebody else to vote for. Clark is trying to argue I'm all those things. I'm the whole package. But it is not getting through.

GREENFIELD: Aaron, can I make a brief point on that?

BROWN: Please.

GREENFIELD: I thought this is has been a terrible week for Wesley Clark. I think that, for the guy who was moving up and challenging Dean, it wasn't just that John Kerry became the surprise foe. There are a lot of people; I want to be very blunt about this. People who are impressed with him on his resume and his first entrance who were saying this is not ready for prime time player.

Whether it was the debate the other night, whether it was his appearance on "Meet the Press", whether it was his apparent inability to ever say he was wrong. Whether it was his kind of almost (UNINTELLIGIBLE) return to the fact that I'm the only guy who didn't go to Yale, and then he said I'm the only guy that worked my way through college. Well you don't work your way through college at West Point.

And John Edwards did, he has just stepped on his message -- I'll put that as polite as possible -- over and over again. And quite apart from the money, which I think he have to go on for a while, the assessment of that campaign is if he comes in fourth or fifth, is he ready to go on?


........

:wtf:

There wasn't shit there except nameless people who jeff says don't think Clark is ready for prime time. Makes me wanna :puke:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:07 AM
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25. The substance of Greenfield's analysis is overwhelming.
How can you NOT agree with such a cogent, well-supported assessment?

It is truly disgusting to see such one-sided coverage.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:09 AM
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26. Stop and think about this quote from Greenfield
He might have won Iowa, because he looks electable. His problem is, he competes with Kerry on electability. He competes with Dean as the outsider. He competes with Edwards as the southerner. He competes with Lieberman as the guy who can attract Republicans.

What he just said is that Clark has the whole package. My wife and I were watching that and that's the first comment she made.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:34 AM
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33. you don't work your way through college at West Point?
Oh really. You only train 24/7 to be a military officer and give 4 years of your life to the Army in return. What a cheap shot.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:13 PM
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43. What kind of work was he thinking of?????
at the used bookstore??? He worked hard if he was at West Point...
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:04 AM
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24. I thought the media liked polls
and the polls show Clark is doing just fine in the Feb. 3 states.

Tucker is just a cute little joke.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:12 AM
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27. The mainstream media is a total joke.......

Is there a difference between CNN, MSNBC and FOX? I tune in to all 3 channels at different points last night and I hear the same bullshit over and over, just different faces ..........
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:51 AM
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39. Re: "polls show Clark doing fine in Feb 3 states"
> I thought the media liked polls
> and the polls show Clark is doing just fine in
> the Feb. 3 states.

But you don't hear about those polls in the news, do you? That would dispel their "Clark is DOA" myth. (And they've been overemphasizing South Carolina, too; probably Clark's weakest state of the Feb 3rd-8th primaries -- since that's John Edward's home turf.)

> Tucker is just a cute little joke.

He's NOT a joke. "Cute" I'll leave for others to debate. He's not my type.
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cbua34 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:14 AM
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29. This may not be popular.....
but I actually like Tucker even though he is a repug. He doesnt take himself too seriously and he is refreshing to hear, even though I may not agree with him alot
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:30 AM
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32. I agree to a point, but he's still reading the talking points
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:34 AM
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35. He's a loudmouth who interrupts everyone....
especially if they are about to make a valid point. He sucks!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:45 AM
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37. Carlson is an evil, immoral media pro
er... make that Media Prostitute!

Tucker Carlson is a poster boy for Media Ho-Ors. He lies and distorts the truth. This would be trivial if he were a sports broadcaster, but people's lives are affected by his lies and cavalier disdain for others.

Carlson bears some responsibility for the 515 US soldiers, ?? allied soldiers, ?? civilians killed in Iraq; for the increased poverty level in this country, etc.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:30 AM
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31. Carlson said the same thing about Kerry, Dean and Hilary's book.
When he declared Dean dead - Dean skyrocketed up in all of the polls. This gives me hope.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:30 AM
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34. Fox News guy said that several days ago. They're bent on
getting Clark out of the race! Gee....makes me wonder why? They seem to like the idea of Kerry & Dean. Gee.....makes me wonder why?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:49 AM
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38. Is Tucker Boy saying....
that you have to win in NH to win the nomination? History certainly does not tell us that at all. If Clark can somehow take 3rd place in NH that would be a major victory for him going into other states where he is much stronger....
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:46 PM
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41. He's the hardest working dead man in the campaign! :) n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:57 PM
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42. Hahahaha - as long as he's alive for his inauguration.
If he is the nominee. The whore press certainly does seem to wish Clark would go away.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:25 PM
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46. You know..
I think they would like all the Democrats to go away, just some more than others. ;)
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:25 PM
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45. You know, every last person on this website knows about Ucker..
and Coulter, and Limpballs...

Why is there a new thread about what they say every other 10 minutes?!?!?!?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:42 PM
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50. Because it effects public opinion and that is what we're here to follow.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:57 PM
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48. getting Tuker and Begala on CNNI now
Tucker says top 5 all have the same views and are alike on the issues.

Paul says bush* is in a heap of trouble looking how the turnout has been.

Tucker dogging Dean on self-control.

Paul say bush* keeps his temper undercontrol, but he has one, too.

more spin by both.

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:40 PM
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49. HEY TUCKER!!!!!!
KISS MY ASS!!!!!!
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