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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:54 PM
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I think McCain has become demented
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story_id=082405a8_mccainwmug
McCain: Bush right to avoid Sheehan

'If I was president of the United States, I probably wouldn't' meet with her, Ariz. senator says.

GARY GAYNOR/Tucson Citizen

President Bush is right to avoid a meeting with Cindy Sheehan, the grieving mother who has become a focal point for opponents of the war in Iraq, U.S. Sen. John McCain said yesterday.

Snip:

"Because support for the war is dropping and more anti-war sentiment is felt, they've latched onto her," he said. "I'm not complaining about that. But if there was more support for the war, I don't think she'd have the visibility or gotten the media attention she has."

Well, dah! What does that tell you, McCain? We don't want your stinking war!


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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:55 PM
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1. I'm waaaay fed up with McCain.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:00 PM
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4. We have too many politicians in this country and no leaders.
That's the prob.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:12 PM
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10. Got that right
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:57 PM
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2. *blink blink*
*scratches McCain off the very short list of Republicans I'd ever in a million years consider voting for*
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:01 PM
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6. They have taken this "talking down" to people to new depths.
:grr:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:18 AM
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31. funny ! I thought the same thing. He sold out. Sold his soul. He
must REALLY want to be prez next time !
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:59 PM
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3. Become?
Comes the dawn.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:01 PM
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5. Quite possibly the Rove smear was correct?
His traumatic experience has destabilized him?
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ChowChowChow Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:02 PM
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7. HE IS AN IDIOT
I never liked him. He is a phoney, and it becomes more apparent as the days go on.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 PM
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8. I agree. He is getting worse.
Welcome to DU chowchowchow!:hi:
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ChowChowChow Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:28 AM
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27. Thank you Katinmn!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 PM
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9. McCain is too old for the presidency
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:12 PM
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11. McCain does seem all over the place.
I would think he would see this is what they said in Vietnam but then you have to recall that his education is to do as he is told and to kill things was his training. I wonder if he could see the mothers of the children he has killed? It is so hard to put the deaths that are going to happen from your mind and a mother would bring it home. How do you reason it is OK? I never could figure it out.How can a American, Iraqi or Russian women feel any different if their children are killed?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:42 PM
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25. Part of it is I don't think McCain ever came to the
conclusion that the other Senate vets came to that Vietnam was a disaster. Kerrey, Cleland, and Hagel have all at some point talked about Vietnam as an unwinable mess. Kerry, of course returned and decried both the logic of the war and its morality. Even in 1984, McCain went to Massachusetts to campaign against Kerry because of his anti-war efforts.

In the early 90s they grew to respect and like each other - but neither changed their assessment of the war. I get the impression that McCain who ran on being a POW never really questioned America's involvement. Last year, he defended Kerry's service once (and hugged Bush often) while saying he still disagreed with Kerry's anti-war efforts. ( Reading Kerry's testimony and Tour of Duty, Kerry probably spent more time thinking of the geo- political consequences and the immorality of things like carpet bombings and free fire zones while writing each journal entry or letter than McCain has done since.

McCain's sense of honor is to conform to the rules of the organization he is in. All the other Senate vets, seem to have a broader view of honor and morality.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:21 PM
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12. Well remember when bush was running against him and said
that he was demented because of the Viet. war.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:25 PM
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13. Lost ALL respect for him long time ago. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:25 PM
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14. Hold me.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:37 PM
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19. bwaaaahhh!!!
They deserve each other all right.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:26 PM
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15. After being butt-reamed viciously by BushCo
during the 2000 Republican primary, he sure has acquiesced and become a Bush butt-kisser. Sick, really.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:29 PM
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16. I can not begin to tell
you all how many democrats in Arizona voted for this ass. It drives me crazy. I have come to believe that most people just don't want to see corruption even when they are looking straight at it. Soft spoken politians are the most dangerous.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:31 PM
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18. Hey I have heard people here at DU
saying they'd vote for him. Aaaarrrrggggghhhhh! Same crappola here in Calif when Lumpy Schwarzenegger ran office. I kept saying he's a freakin' Republican and now people are surprised he's acting like one.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:30 PM
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17. As folks in the submarine force say, "typical prima donna aviator!" (nt)
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:42 PM
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20. I've said it before, and I'll say it again
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:44 PM by Libby2
any man that let anyone drag his family through the mud, then defend him, can't be wrapped too tight.

edited because I'm not wrapped too tight.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:15 PM
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21. Well, mccain is NOT president nor
will he EVER be. bushwa drug is name through the pig stye and mccain is kissing his ass in gratitude.

Damn right mccain wouldn't be meeting with Cindy Sheehan..she could talk Circles around that old coot.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:43 PM
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22. So McCain is admitting that there isn't much support for the war
"But if there was more support for the war, I don't think she'd have the visibility or gotten the media attention she has."
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:54 PM
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23. The Corp Media likes this shmuck...
because they know that he will kiss their ass and like doing it.

John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.

The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.

Here's what the AP's investigation found:McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary. The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law.

This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:55 PM
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24. That's what he's admitting. But I guess we are just supposed to
STFU so all the Repugs don't have to worry about getting re-elected.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:06 AM
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26. It's more sad than...
...anything else. I'd like to be able to support McCain to a degree and I've heard him speak on issues like campaign finance reform and liked what he had to say, but you're right, he's a half bubble off plumb. Carrying water for Dubya after what he's done to our country, not to mention the way they smeared him, there's definitely something wrong with the man.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:51 AM
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28. It's sad to see this happen to a man.
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 03:51 AM by tabasco
He has lost his integrity and his courage. All because of greed.

Very sad.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:30 AM
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29. The breaking point with me
was that disgusting hugging pic with Bush and an article showing how pissed his own daughter was with his endorsement of Bush.

He's a worthless cowardly bastard that sold his family out to be includeed for what? I still don't know? A cushy job at Carlyle when he retires? HA! like that's going to happen....Or better yet is he stupid enough to believe he will ever get the party's nomination?

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:07 AM
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30. That photo is in Post #14 Bleeech!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:22 AM
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32. McCain is a human pretzel....
all twisted into a knot by *.
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