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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:32 PM
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two servicemen beaten in Seattle...."by liberals"?
or so hannity is proclaiming... anyone know what this is about? Apparently, there's a video and he's airing it on his show tonight. I heard it on his radio show, so I don't have a link. :shrug:
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:33 PM
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1. by apolitical thugs
sheesh
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:38 PM
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8. or Rove hires to change the story about the treatment of vets.
.
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Brightmore Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:33 PM
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2. How the Hell does he know it was liberals?
Anyways...here's the link:

http://www.komotv.com/stories/38738.htm
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:36 PM
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6. Those guys look like Neocon thugs to me!
:)
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:39 PM
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10. thanks...also, were they even in uniform or just coincidence?
for some reason i can't get the video to work. Sure sounds like a random act of violence. Yeah, they're gettin' desperate.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:41 PM
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15. The demonizing starts here.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:47 PM
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18. They are black so they must be liberals......
I wonder were that pasty faced mother fucker gets off....

Just another Irish Thug.....
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:34 PM
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3. It was three black guys
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:18 PM
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31. How racist of them
Maybe these guys were like Condi, and Clarence Thomas, and Janice Brown. Perhaps they were beating up the servicemen for expecting their benefits not to be cut. Damn servicemen, always wanting a hand out and taking food out of the mouths of hard-working Americans. Why don't they pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and quit their whining about PTSD and all.

:eyes:
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:35 PM
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4. With this..
..and the drudge headline about vets being protested again, it shows they are desprate. They are trying everything in the play book. This is Vietnam era rhetoric.

"Look they hate our troops, they will spit on our troops etc".

DESPERATION. They are scared.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:46 PM
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17. there really needs to be some consequences for Hannity if, indeed, he

is arbitrailly broadbrushing this incident and blaming it on 'liberals"



.....SEATTLE - Two soldiers who just returned from a year in Iraq were badly beaten in an attack outside Pioneer Square. But believe it or not, someone caught the beating on videotape. Now, police are asking for your help identifying the suspects.

The brutality of it all was captured on tape outside of Larry's Nightclub on First and Yesler on July 31.

Police say the victims were with two women who'd been groped by the suspects. One of the women threw a hot dog at the suspects and walked away.

They didn't get very far. The three suspects ran after them and began attacking the two men -- two soldiers who'd come home from the war. .......
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:36 PM
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5. Well, I guess it shows you
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 04:47 PM by realpolitik
how undertrained they are if they get beat up by a couple of liberals.

I mean, isn't half the radio right always telling us that we are whimps?

In all seriousness, WTF, over? This is like a man bites dog story.

After seeing the page...

These were guys in a bar with two women. The assailants alledgedly groped the women inside the bar, the woman alledgedly threw a hotdog at one of the assailants, who followed them outside. Outside on the sidewalk, a melee ensued.

This is a brutal vid. But it is actually like a few fights I personally have been in, and I am not a vet. I think this incident happens to non-vets every night of the week in America.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:36 PM
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7. This was posted earlier
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=184x5526

Seattle Police looking for men who attacked soldiers

This happened 7/31 - I heard a caller to Hannity's show make it sound like happened last night.

<snip>
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:39 PM
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13. So this is old news from July, and the attackers were just ordinary thugs
Trust Hannity to lie his ass off.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:40 PM
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14. sorry, i didn't see it...yeah, he made it sound like breaking news nt
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:38 PM
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Hannity will play it up, like his own little Reichstag fire. n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:38 PM
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9. OH god
it's pathetic how fow they'll go when they don't have anything to use. This is a fight over their inappropriate behavior, period.

hannity is a fucking waste of human tissue.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:39 PM
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11. THATS IT
Hannity has really crossed the line! what a G**Damn F*ing liar!!!! How DARE he just make some absolutely ridiculous argument as such:

Liberals---- attack war which means
liberals----- attack soldiers which means
when someone attacks soldiers.... msut be liberals..


THat is PRECISELY why protests of the war need to be conducted PEACEFULLY...

That F*NG A$$whipe!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:49 PM
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19. i am confused. Was it the solders doing the grooping?
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:07 PM
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27. I agree 100%,its WAY past time to STOP blowing this kind of BS off...
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:14 PM by OneTwentyoNine
Something needs to be done about shit like this....
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:30 PM
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35. Gee.... I Find Myself Thinking Exactly Like You!
Talk about low down dirty rotten crap!! And THEY say the Liberals are "attack dogs"??? Trying to get our goat are they.... well we'll see, let's get to Washington D.C. 9/24/2005 and show them a HUMONGOUS Peaceful Anti-War/Downing Street/Election Fraud/Anti-Bush Rally!

We need to make the place ROCK like it did during Viet Nam!!!

C'mon, let's make this thing TOO BIG TO IGNORE!!

Last night on one of the "regular" news shows they were talking about protests here and there, but they "buffered" it up by saying that while many people are very unhappy about HOW the war is going, they only got a solid 13% who were anti-war activists! How's that for putting shades on??? Report the story.... but here's the caveat!!!

MOBILIZE!!!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:49 PM
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43. Protests ARE conducted peacefully -- and where they're not
the FIRST thing you need to think about and suspect are agents provocateurs.

For the very reason you cite, and a number of others, the people who do NOT want there to BE any protests are typically eager enough to see them end that they're willing to make that happen, which means infiltrating organizations AND/OR simply showing up quietly in the middle (or more likely the edges) of protests and starting something.

* Protesters get discredited (even tho they weren't guilty)
* The cops can start to crackdown, which too many of them really love
* Arrests can be made (whether warranted or not), which disrupts the movement and is intended to demoralize it -- plus it keeps some of the activists tied up elsewhere
* People are dissuaded from attending future protests -- after all, they don't want to get hurt or arrested, etc.
* Again, protesters and their movement get discredited


As a rule, LIBERALS AREN'T VIOLENT. People who want peace are opposed to violence, sometimes even allergic to it.

All of this does make it imperative, however, for ALL protesters to be totally clear on the principle of NON-VIOLENCE (with or without civil disobedience). Probably a lot of good resources via google:

http://www.google.com/search?q=non-violent+civil+disobedience&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:39 PM
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12. It was a fight over women
One guy supposedly groping another guy's girl. One woman threw a hot dog at one of the gropers after the men had words, then they walked away with their guys. The gropers followed, apparently ticked off about the hot dog being thrown at them, and a fight ensued, and the alledged gropers apparently beat up the guys who were with the women.

Has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq, or that these guys were vets from the war. Nor was the fight about the war. KOMO apparently thinks it will make the story better. Hannity glommed on to that because as we all know he is a huge lying ahole.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:42 PM
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16. I forget who called this a couple of days ago
but "it" was called and by "it" I meant the exploitation of this by political gain.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:09 PM
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28. From last night
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:51 PM
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20. In other news, a rabbi in new york was beaten up by two jews
(pay no attention to the shaved heads and swastikas and camos in the home video)

damn you jews!

oy vay, the pain, the pain.
:eyes:


What will they think of next? :shrug:
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:52 PM
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21. Looks like racial profiling to me.
The video isn't connecting. Anyone know if the soldiers were in uniform?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:14 PM
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30. How is this racial profiling?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:14 PM
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41. saying they're liberal because they're black
most blacks vote democratic, therefore, they are liberal troop haters.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:44 PM
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44. Assuming if you're black you're a liberal or Dem
or is that reverse profiling?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:52 PM
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22. The Republican Hate Machine is going into Overdrive
Seriously. They are doing all they can to gin up the hate meter, and create some excuses for flexing all the Official Muscle they have. They are trying to create an opportunity to DROP THE HAMMER.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:02 PM
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39. Now we know who the next country for a neocon attack it
It isn't Iran or Syria, its US. The propagandists have launched a full out assault.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:54 PM
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23. Where are they getting the "liberal' label from?
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:55 PM
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24. Their imaginations. THIS IS OLD NEWS (from July); ATTACKERS were THUGS
not liberals. Hannity lies his ASS off as usual.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:02 PM
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25. Well, I knew it was BS, of course. We should bring this up if they
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:03 PM by Pirate Smile
start in with the lies and smears.

"Pro-Life" Group Harasses Grieving Military Widow

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4458149

edit to add - Hannity got it from Drudge, Faux's main news source - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2033115
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:03 PM
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26. Can't you see the bold lettering on the jerseys: LIBERALS
That way we don't shoot each other during SWAT raids.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:14 PM
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29. Hannity@foxnews.com He will not answer me but i will send him
my thoughts on this anyway!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:20 PM
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32. Forget emailing his "email screener" send letters in MASS to the FCC...
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:20 PM by OneTwentyoNine
This shit has gone on way to long........
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:20 PM
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33. Sounds like Hannity is trying a Rovian trick
but isn't smart enough to pull it off. Weasel.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:29 PM
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34. Here's how much the liberals hate the soldiers!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:32 PM
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36. I thought we were supposed to be wimps!
It must have been some manly Protest Warriors disguised in tie dye!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:43 PM
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37. These guys look just like every Liberal I know...


:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:55 PM
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38. They're black, therefore they must be liberals.
and they must have beaten up the guys after getting into political argument sparked by the soliders' uniforms.

...The brutality of it all was captured on tape outside of (a)...(n)ightclub...on July 31.

...Police say the victims were with two women who'd been groped by the suspects. One of the women threw a hot dog at the suspects and walked away...(Three) suspects suspects...attack(ed) the two men...soldiers who'd come home from the war.


It was nightclub. The soliders do not appear to be in uniform. And the fight was over sex. Oh, well, it was fun while it lasted.

:eyes:
rocknation

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:51 PM
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45. Thomas, Rice, and Janice Brown must be closet liberals then
Who knew?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:11 PM
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40. They are SEATTLE residents
therefore they must be liberals.

statistically it is likely, but i bet you they don't vote or give 2 shits about politics.

nice going, hot dog lady. got your friend's asses kicked. when ms. solomon starts mouthing off to some drunk jackass like that (and she does it often enough that i would comment on it), i always ask her why she's so hot to get me beat up.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:30 PM
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42. Hannity the racist
No surprise, he's got everyone labeled.

Hannity/Drudge thinking:

Black = Liberal
Liberal = evil
Q.E.D. Black = evil

Nice logic, Hannity and Drudge ~ their racism is never far from the surface.

How on earth could he know what their politics are when they haven't even been caught?

Something has to be done about this. It's gone on way too long and been brushed off too often. They need to have consequences every, single time they lie like this.

BTK Killer = Rightwing Christian
Q.E.D. Rightwing Christians = Evil killers

There, that was easy ~ simple!!

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:55 PM
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46. yeah, right
see, THIS is what we need to hear from our people on the air and in the papers. Outrageous lies that can't be disproven.

BTW, you shouldn't be listening to Hannity.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 11:01 PM
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47. btw, you should...
..."keep your enemies closer" buddy. I also happen to listen to neil bortz (sp?) and michael savage. Most of the time, I'm yelling at the radio, but sometimes it's just *hilarious* when they get really worked up. And let me tell ya, they are really worked up right now. Cindy has crawled up all their asses and given them hemmoroids! :)
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