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Thu Aug-25-05 05:23 PM
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"We at the DLC didn't want Dean as chair, or Internet activists." |
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"We don't want the party being steered by a few keyboard warriors with little contact with the real world."
Many people are frustrated with the Democratic Party, and that's understandable. Some call for splitting the party, but I think that if people want change, it's something you have to work harder for than that. Lately there's been a virtual army of Internet activists who've been rising up to challenge the party on to bigger things. We've also seen an unprecendented level of giving. The quote that I put up on the top is completely fabricated. I put it there to see how many people respond to it in earnest without even reading the rest of this post. Only time will tell if we maintain the party unity and go on to victory in '06 and '08, whether we run Hillary Clinton or Wesley Clark or someone else.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:25 PM
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1. Which way to this "Real World" you speak of ? |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:25 PM
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I'd think you'd be tired of this by now, but what the hell, I'll pull up a chair and :popcorn:
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:26 PM
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4. that is that big "we" again. |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:29 PM
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:36 PM
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14. I didn't see a "we" either |
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Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:36 PM by LittleClarkie
What the hey...?
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:29 PM
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9. How's the popcorn so far? |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:31 PM
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11. You're off to a good start |
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Some days it's just too damn easy...
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:38 PM
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15. It helps that the internets is sort of "drive by" |
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Like fast food. Like reading the paper only for the headlines.
It does help to read the whole thing sometimes though, doesn't it.
What will be even more appalling is when people start quoting this as if someone actually said it. And you won't be able to correct them either.
Like liberal lab rats. And they're sure going for that cheese.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:44 PM
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22. Well, I've been guilty of just skimming a post before, so.. |
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I have to agree that reading something the whole way through certainly helps.
The beauty of this is that the quote is so believable. I'm no fan of the DLC but I am a fan of an entertaining flame war, especially one so artfully crafted and sparked as this. ;) :D
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:58 PM
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36. I know *I'm* tired of it by now. |
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But, there are cures for that.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:25 PM
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3. Excuse me? I'm a keyboard warrior PRINCESS, to you, DLC. |
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Screw the DLC. A bunch of think-tank wannabes.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:26 PM
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This is working better than I thought!
I bet people won't even read the responses before going off, either!
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 PM
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6. "We, the REAL Democrats never asked the DLC to speak for us." |
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But now we are asking them to GO BACK TO THE FUCKING CIRCLE OF HELL THAT THEY CAME FROM.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 PM
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8. Not like I couldn't see this coming. |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:34 PM
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13. You, sir, are an evil genius |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 PM
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KOS versus the DLC in about 10 days now |
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the anticipation is killing me
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 PM
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7. We in the Democratic Party don't want the DLC period. |
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Go back to the Republican Party and stop posing as Democrats and pulling fifth column tactics.
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:06 PM
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and take my wussy governor with you, that of course would be tom v., whom I hate..........this guy is no progressive, but nothing more than a bu$h lite repuke......screw em all............
Impeach Bu$h !
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:33 PM
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Hillary go Home... DLC....NOT!!!
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:39 PM
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That's from the book 1984.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:38 PM
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16. These 'revenge' threads are interesting... |
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Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:41 PM by Q
...in that they expose the character of the author.
But in the end...they signify nothing but boredom and prejudice.
Incidentally...the DLC probably didn't mind 'internet activism' until untold numbers of Democrats found their website and started giving them hell for their anti-progressive views.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:39 PM
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18. What did you get out of the thread? |
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Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:39 PM by LoZoccolo
I'd be curious as to your take, as you were curious about mine.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:45 PM
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23. Actually, this one would seem to be more of an experiment |
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Do many people reading on an internet message board read past the first line of a post? No, they don't. An interesting point above and beyond politics, it reminds us that in the communication biz, have your main point in the first sentence, because it's likely that folks won't read much past that.
If they did, they'd find that the quote is fabricated.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:53 PM
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30. Funny, How Many People Don't Read Past Headlines In Newspapers Too |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:41 PM
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19. Wes Clark's tax plan he announced during the primaries |
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would get him kicked out of the DLC in a split second. He brings a sensible approach to issues of war and peace. He's no pacifist but he's no hawk either.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:53 PM
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29. Also, the fact that he spoke out early on against |
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Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:53 PM by Totally Committed
the "Corporate-owned Media" would get him a trip to the DLC woodshed.
Wes is so much more "Liberal" than many here would like to think, and proudly so. He doesn't back away from that label. He owns it. The DLC would never put up with that, either.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:42 PM
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We are here, we are real people, we don't just sit at our computers, we vote, we work for progressive candidates, we attend forums in real life. Keyboard warriors are not understood, you think this is all we do...no way (DLC stands for Dino Lost Corporates), wake up and smell the backlash.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:43 PM
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21. So now you speak for the DLC? |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:48 PM
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And I do mean, not really.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:51 PM
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27. What's the DLC position |
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on the Downing Street Memo? Do they support the resolution asking for more information from the Bush WH?
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:54 PM
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31. More of a behaviorist, actually |
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And the moral of the story is, have your main point in the first sentence, because people don't read much past that.
Get it?
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:56 PM
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Can you explain your post in plain English?
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:02 PM
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39. Read the paragraph after the quote. |
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and you will find that the quote was fabricated.
The poster had a theory that no one would read the rest of his post after that first sentence, even though the rest of his post explains what he was doing. They would just react.
And they did.
Get. it?
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:08 PM
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43. I read the entire post |
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and I don't understand why people who supposedly support Hillary Clinton and/or Wes Clark bother to bait and insult fellow Dems instead of building the party and helping develop good public policy.
I take politics pretty seriously, apparently others don't. Perhaps you should consider how your actions reflect on the candidates you support.
The whole DLC issue is just shadow-boxing. DLC has no real power, none at all with the electorate. They also have no new ideas. I should know, I used to be a member many years ago.
Maybe you guys should consider moving these discussions to the DU Lounge or something, since you don't seem very serious.
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:17 PM
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47. (shrug) I don't support the DLC |
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I do support not reacting to fabricated quotes and reading whole posts. That's my main perspective in this thread.
I'm not finding much in the way of constructive debate in these types of threads for the most part. So I completely bypassed the point the OP was making about the DLC and went straight for his hypothesis that people wouldn't read far enough down to see that the quote was fabricated and that they were reacting to nothing.
I agree with you on the shadowboxing issue. They have no real power. So demonizing and daily threads about them are getting QUITE tedious.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:58 PM
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35. Yeah, what's the DLC position on the Downing Street Memo? |
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:59 PM
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:51 PM
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:58 PM
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34. How does one interpret quotation marks? |
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I read the damn thing, but there's still those quote marks.
There's a name for this type of post. It's called a troll.
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Thu Aug-25-05 05:58 PM
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:spray: :rofl:
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:03 PM
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It's interesting though to see who doesn't read past the first sentence though. If they had, they wouldn't be reacting. But they didn't, so they are.
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:13 PM
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Everyone here read the entire post. Didn't you guys plan a response if they did?
Don't you guys have some homework to do?
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:19 PM
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I'm just an interested bystander mister. I didn't plan shit. Just watching a bit of street theater.
Want some popcorn? :popcorn:
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Just who in the fuck do they think they are? Who appointed them god?
Fucking jerks!
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Thu Aug-25-05 06:08 PM
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42. instead of fabrications, here's what you really said about DU |
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"it's also frustrating seeing what could be such a useful place such as this for real-life activists to exchange useful information and do work, turn into this rah-rah fest for people who don't do much, and thus probably chase away people who could be doing useful things with it." (to be fair, i added the bolding to highlight certain phrases)
it's interesting to know that you think people here "don't do much" ... from your other thread, you obviously had no idea what i do ... i wonder how you know about all the other DU'ers ...
please let me know if i've misquoted you in any way or taken anything you said out of context ... i tried to be as accurate as possible ...
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