Kerry the Scull and Bonesman

[Mobius]

Ok Kerry is a member of the Scull and Bones fraternity of Yale. Just like Bush. Do we really want Bush's frat brother running against him? COME ON!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

If Dems put up Bush-Lite - we *deserve* to lose.

Won't get fooled again.

[jpgray]

4. I still don't understand

How a guy with a Senate record more liberal than Ted Kennedy's gets labeled Bush-lite.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

6. oh, let's see...

NAFTA, GATT/WTO, FTAA, more FTAs, resistence against raising the minium wage, hostile to the living wage ... should I go on?

Oh, that's right - Dems only care about abortion and gay marriage - I forgot :eyes:

[jpgray]

9. Well, now I have to debunk your distortions here

On NAFTA etc., the only one who beats him is Kucinich. So every other candidate is Bush-lite, in your view.

He voted for raising the minimum wage. Kucinich is the ONLY ONE who really talks about a living wage. Every other candidate is Bush-lite, in your view.

Keep going if you want.

[peaceandjustice]

14. sure

the PATRIOT Act, THe Iraqi war resolution, No Child Left Behind.

But even still, Unless Kerry ran hard and far to the right in the general, I'd vote for him. He'd be such an improvment on diplomacy and international relations, and he's no Bush-lite on the death penalty while still having tough-on-crime credentials.

[jpgray]

18. On the IWR, I won't raise a defense

On NCLB, I think he was trying to help out Ted Kennedy, who somehow believed Bush would fund and honestly execute his program. :eyes:

Patriot Act was voted for by all but one senator, if I recall. Even Wellstone, who I would NOT call Bush-lite. Neither should have voted for it, of course.

IWR was just a bad vote. It was a mistake, and while his explanation makes sense to me, it still seems to have been more politically motivated than anything else.

[krkaufman]

22. But I'd LOVE to see the Daily Show bylines...

(no offense intended, here, Kerry fans; Bushies, offense intended)

Kerry vs Bush...

It's "Skull vs Bonehead"

[molly]

2. Here we go again!

:wtf:

[Loonman]

3. What's Dean?

Communism-lite?

[mdmc]

5. If the bonesman decide to unseat Bush with him, yes

This frat has more presidents in its circle (four) that all public colleges put together.
If the bonesmen want a #5 to replace #4, then Kerry is our only chance!

[Mobius]

10. yeah those were all repuke presidents

I dont see why a republican institution like Scull and Bones should make ANY Deomocrat vote for Kerry.

[Stuckinthebush]

7. One of my old fraternity brothers is a criminal and in jail

He is a real ass.

We shared some silly times when I was 19 to 21. I am a very different person than that kid.

Kerry was a member of an exclusive fraternity for rich kids. So was Bush. They did silly things.

I would hope that you wouldn't write me off because I was in the same fraternity as an asshole convict.

I would hope that you wouldn't write off Kerry because he was in the same fraternity as an asshole president.

[chyjo]

8. not again

jesus H. Christ. not again. I'm so tired of listening to this garbage.
Kerry is going to win in NH today, perhaps just because all of his Virgin sacrificing, baby killing, bonesmen frat brothers are going to vote for him. Fortunately for Dean supporters Dean wants to lose...... great skiing weather dont ya know?

[Mobius]

13. So If Bush Votes for Kerry...

We should? Is that what you are saying? Please clarify.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

29. "so tired of listening to this garbage"

Yes, we are.

[Bozola]

11. A scull is a kind of long oared boat.

There's nothing wrong with being a rower, unless you're a starboard, of course.

[jpgray]

12. It's the double-dog secret branch of Skull and Bones

But now I have to kill you.

[Mobius]

17. cool a Zappa fan!

Who do you think Frank would have voted for.
Just a Zappa quote I feel is pertinent
"An evil prince eats a steaming pig from a chamber right near there. Who are all these people, he's locked away down there? ...In the room where the giant power puff works, where the Torture Never Stops..."

[Bozola]

24. Welcome, Mobius

There's a LOT of Zappa fans at DU.

If Zappa were alive today, I would personally goto Laurel canyon and force him to run for Prez.

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[molly]

16. AMEN!!!

:toast:

[Mobius]

19. Sure attack the messenger

Oldest topic switching trick in the book. I have been a loyal Dem for 22 years. Sorry the truth about Kerry bothers you so much:)

[molly]

20. We just tired of seeing this truth about Kerry

it obviously doesn't both most of us!

[gauguin57]

25. yeah, and fricking learn to spell

It's SKULL and Bones. With a "k". I was a member -- but not at Yale (at a state university) ... it was basically a DRINKING CLUB for student leaders at my college.

Anyhow ... we've got to think about electability. It is absolutely KEY in this race. And a Kerry-Edwards ticket gives us that. A handsome Southerner with some legislative experience paired with a Vietnam vet with BOTH foreign policy and domestic policy experience? And both so well-spoken? Beauty.

Sorry to be blunt about the rest of the pack ... but please ... we MUST have electability.

***Wes Clark has been a Dem. for about five minutes. Handsome but no charisma. Still struggles for answers. No domestic policy experience.

***Howard Dean. Too volatile. Has had a few shifting positions the media can rip into. Not presidential. The state he ran was too small. He's a northeasterner WITHOUT the legislative experience. He should run for Senate.

***Dennis Kucinich -- unelectable on many fronts (though he's a great guy and I love his platform). Looks like a little geek and sounds like a flaming liberal.

***Al Sharpton ... love to hear him speak. But too extreme for most of the country. Unelectable.

***Joe Lieberman ... nice guy, but too conservative. A hawk and proud of it. And he puts people to sleep when he opens his mouth.

[Mobius]

28. Attacking the Messenger

I made a typo. ooooooooooooo! Try to attack the messenger and make her, in my case btw seem insignifigant. You are doing EXACTLY what the press is doing to Clark.

[bigtree]

40. gauguin57 made a point that you ignored

"I was a member," he said -- "but not at Yale (at a state university) ... it was basically a DRINKING CLUB for student leaders at my college."


(Sound of hot air baloon deflating)

[Trajan]

23. Kerry is the 'Devil' ....

These weak-assed brickbrats dont pass as arguments ....

The assertion that Kerry is somehow 'NOT a Democrat' because he went to Yale is simply absurd ....

Whether you are a 'Democrat' or not isnt terribly relevent, if your only goal is to TEAR DOWN Democrats who do NOT toe your absurdly placed line ....

Your hole awaits ....

[Mobius]

26. I said he wasA BONESMAN

dont put words in my mouth, thank you.

[Old and In the Way]

34. Sorry to tell you Mobius

John Kerry's going to be the next Democratic President of the United States. He's got the leadership, honor, and dignity to lead a populist uprising to take back this country back.


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHH!


Back to the Matrix and try again, Mobius. :-)

[Mobius]

21. I never used the term 'Bush Lite'

You did. Dont turn this into a personal attack on me. Geez I can sure tell you are a Kerry supporter by that!

[Trajan]

27. Really ? ...

Is Kerry a Moderate Democrat ? ...

Good: ... maybe Ill vote for him ....

You dont see any specific Candidates totems in my posts, do you ? ...

Silly arse: ... Im a DEMOCRAT, who will vote for the Democratic Party nominee ...

This pitiful denigration of our own candidates for the slightest and most imaginary pretexts is nothing but an ego trip for those who profess them ..

Get a clue, and SUPPORT a candidate, without resoting to smears and innuendoes about other candidates ...

[Mobius]

30. giggles

"This pitiful denigration of our own candidates for the slightest and most imaginary pretexts is nothing but an ego trip for those who profess them .."
Then tell me why Kerry does it so much?

[Old and In the Way]

36. So tell us what you think Moby.

Ed Gillispie getting a little nervous with the Kerry juggenaut?

hahahahahahahahaha.......Kerry's going to finish off that investigation we started in the 80s. First, we're going to retire the unelected fraud, then we're going to take down the rotting corpse that masquerades as a political party.

Take the pill, Moby!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

31. "every democrat short of Fidel Castro"

Perhaps there is a confusion about what Democrats stand for? Because Fidel Castro ain't it. Then again, with wanna-be royalty like Kerry running, I can understand the confusion.

[TexasSissy]

32. We need someone who can beat him, at this point. We can't

be too particular. Who else would you suggest?

[Mobius]

33. Easy

Wes Clark!

[Basurero]

35. Go back to skool.

So what? Kerry is a good man. That makes him better than Bushler.

[Mobius]

37. That makes him better than Bushler.

Being bedder den Busch, id aboot az hard az sleepin durin a Kerry speach.

[gauguin57]

38. ok, mobius

I apologize for cappin' on your typo. OK? I was angry at your assumption that Kerry somehow isn't qualified to be president because he was a member of Skull & Bones. And I took it out on your spelling. Well, not to mention that I was a member of the same organization, at a college where they didn't take it all so seriously. And which gave me NO networking advantage in the outside world, I guarantee you!

Pardonnez-moi.

Buying you a beer. :toast:

If getting rid of Bush weren't so vital, I doubt my temper would be flaring as it is. But we WILL NOT have a country left if Bush is given four more years. And I like living in the United States; I don't want to have to move to Canada or New Zealand.

And I see Kerry as the guy with the best overall resume to beat the Chimp.

[oasis]

39. C' mon DUers, we are 337 posts shy of our millionth Skull N Bones post.

We only have a few more weeks before we have our nominee. Let's not fall short.

[tryanhas]

41. Skull and Bones IS NOT A COLLEGE FRATERNITY

It is a secret society!

There is a difference!

Three Presidents. A host of CIA operatives and cabinet members. Other prominent people throughout the country who control the media, things on the internet, the banking.

They have had a hand in things like the NAZI movement in Germany.

College fraternity???

Whatever.

Kerry is a part of an agenda, and his "RECORD" is irrelevant. He is out for the same things that Bush is, and it doesn't matter if he as a Democrat goes COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to get to the same point that Bush as a Republican goes CLOCKWISE to get to, if you understand what I'm saying. He is still trying to achieve the same thing for Skull and Bones that Bush would.

That is a NEW WORLD ORDER. George Herbert Walker Bush was also a member of Skull and Bones, and back in 1991, he used "NEW WORLD ORDER" in one of his speeches, saying that his administration was out to create one for the good of everyone. Bush Jr is trying to get it set up as well, and Bonesman Kerry would as well.

College fraternity? You are so underestimating this thing.

[oasis]

42. Just what do the Bonesmen "plan" for the world? Kerry and Bush are

as different as a hero/statesman/scholar and a rogue idiot could be.