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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:49 AM
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The Republican Party is in Trouble
We have not witnessed anywhere near the worst for them yet.

Congress reconvenes after their August recess pretty soon and aside from being tanned and rested, they will be still smarting from the wrath of their electorate. During recess, many in Congress held town meetings and fund raisers as a way to be in touch with "their people". With their poll numbers even lower than **’s, many have been given a clear message from their constituents that our country is seriously on the wrong track. They are going to come back to Washington ready to fight for thing most dear to them; their office. We are going to finally see the previously lock-stepped republicans in Congress attempt to separate themselves from the policies and follies of this corrupt administration in an attempt to save their own sorry asses.

This creates the perfect opportunity to block further destructive policy initiatives from bushco, and there should be no reason that John Roberts should be confirmed. Let them go "nuclear"! Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid promised to start submitting bills of his own. There has never been a better time for the emergence of a true opposition, and given the current political climate, it IS going to happen. And for a cherry on top, just imagine what fun is going to ensue when Fitzgerald finally starts handing out indictments.

Stick a fork in them.

Republicans in Congress are going to desperately try to separate themselves from the mess that they have been collaborators in. We need to make sure it continues to stick to the whole lot of them, and not let them leave the shrub adrift on an iceberg all by himself.



:popcorn:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:50 AM
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1. They can not run away from the cost of GAS
and with them running the House/Senate/WH they can not blame the Dems on it. Plus the nice pictures * of him hold hands with Saudis...
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:53 AM
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2. god I hope you are right....
and while I'm sick of worry over the economy, I am hopeful about the political climate....

the tide may turn but was it too late?
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:53 AM
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3. If I had a nickel...
:eyes:
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:56 AM
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5. You could buy a hammer...
...if you had a hammer, you could ring it in the mornin'
you could ring it in the evenin'
all over this land.

you could ring out justice!
you could ring out a warnin'
you could ring out the love between our brothers and sisters, all over this land.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:02 AM
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6. I know;
What have you got if you don't at least have a little hope.:beer:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:02 AM
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13. Hey, look, you have to seek out ANY weakness you can find.
THIS is a weakness. This is actually a WHOLE BUNCH of weakness:

gas prices
the war
Cindy Sheehan
the National Guard (doing a whole helluva lotta good in Iraq when their own citizens in Louisiana and Mississippi need them badly)
the milquetoast response of the republi-CON machinery to DOMESTIC TERRORIST pat robertson
the polls, especially bush's own - not to mention ALL those polls that have CONSISTENTLY SHOWN, for a factor of a a few YEARS NOW - that a MAJORITY of Americans thinks the country's veered off onto the wrong track
and everything else, of course, from the DSM onward...

In sparring class, we learned that you look for ANY weakness in your opponent and then EXPLOIT THE BEJEEEZUZ out of it.

We not only need to hound the republi-CONS but also our own Dems for remaining spineless when they're being handed multiple golden opportunities! Whatthehell are they doing, sitting around with their thumbs up their asses? As Helen Thomas would say, Democrats, TAKE A STAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:25 AM
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15. Whoop, there it is
That's EXACTLY what needs to happen. Consistently remind, connect the dots, and offer hope in changing course with the Dems. And don't let up on that message.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:55 AM
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4. Stick a fork in 'em, they're DONE and starting to burn
Not to mention that awful smell.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:04 AM
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7. Volunteers are needed everywhere = there is a crisis in Washington
for volunteer law students and retired lawyers. Republicans will be ever more desparate to reach their goals in spite of disapprovals of the way their Party is doing and because of the way their Party is doing. The people of the U.S. need help. They must work overnight on a minute's notice to dissect crap and theft planted in the next day's agenda - crap and theft that our elected officials don't have time to find - in time.

WE NEED YOU!

We can't let the criminals keep getting away with their hidden clauses.

If they are smart enough to plant them, we have to be smart enough to find them and destroy them.

We NEED YOU!

We NEED YOU!

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:25 AM
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10. If you're going to issue an SOS like this, post contact info.
At least help people to find out who they need to contact in order to help.

On DU, no one can hear you scream.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:56 AM
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11. I don't think there has to be any seprate place to contact. Just
contact your Congressperson or Senator. I apologize if they are inundated. I am just stating a need.

It is obvious that the Republicans are planting these clauses - there is the infamous one that made it into the Fahrenheit 9-11 movie where Conyers admits upfront that they don't read every word.

Now, it appears, there is something already known that has appeared in something coming up in September that gives the regime some Social Security changes that they want.

I am not a lawyer, I only see the need. We have to start outsmarting them. We haven't been doing a good job. Evidently, they probably never have enough staff.

It is all common sense and I am only pointing out a need.

The only essential need is that it is better if the volunteers are well known to someone, i.e., trustworthy.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:11 AM
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8. Chairman Bill Thomas planning to push Bush SS plan via pension reform bill
he will try and push through the House when Congress returns after Labor Day and Frist Will bring the bill directly to the Senate floor.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-social27aug27,1,2488033.story?coll=la-mininav-nation

THE NATION

Bush Gives Social Security a Summer Break

The president has eased up on his push for private accounts. Democrats are pleased, but Republicans say the plan isn't dead yet.

By Joel Havemann and Warren Vieth

Times Staff Writers

August 27, 2005

<>But members of the Bush administration insist he has not given up. "The president is totally committed to Social Security reform," Al Hubbard, director of the National Economic Council, said after Bush met with his economic advisors this month. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the lull merely reflected the congressional recess, which ends Sept. 6. "This is one of our priorities when Congress returns," he said.

<>Just before beginning its August recess, Congress cleared a number of major items off that plate, including the highway and energy bills and the Central American Free Trade Agreement.

Also working in favor of Bush's Social Security overhaul in September is the fact that House Ways and Means Chairman Bill Thomas (R-Bakersfield) and Senate Finance Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), whose committees have jurisdiction over Social Security, are both outspoken supporters of individual accounts.

The House is expected to act first. Thomas has pushed for legislation that is in the form of a three-legged stool, with one leg for restructuring private pension oversight, one for providing new tax incentives for private savings and the third for overhauling Social Security. Rep. Jim McCrery (R-La.) is a co-sponsor of the bill to start individual accounts with the temporary Social Security surplus, but Thomas is not.

For advocates of individual accounts, the Senate will be a tougher sell than the House. Republicans have an edge of 11 to 9 on the Finance committee, and at least one Republican member, Olympia Snowe of Maine, has come out against individual accounts.

Perhaps that roadblock could be circumvented. DeMint said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) had told senators that if the House passed a version of DeMint's bill to finance individual accounts out of surplus payroll tax revenues, Frist would bypass the Finance Committee and send the bill straight to the Senate floor.


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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:22 AM
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9. Polls are deceiving. Everybody hates the other guy's rep 'cause
of all the pork he takes home, but loves their guy because he keeps revenue in the district.

Very little of the national angst rubs off at the local level.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:02 AM
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12. I feel this could be wishful thinking on our part...
This Party is Teflon. You can throw their own shit back at them day and night, and with the help of a largely complicit media, it all slides off.

Where's the Rove endictment?

Where's the arrest of Pat Robertson?

Where's the DSM?

Where's the election fraud resport?

Where's Bush? -- Oh, right -- he's on vacation.

And Congress going back into session will not change much if the past is any indication. Gutlessness, spinelessness, toothlessness abounds there on our side of the aisel (save for a few courageous members of the CBC...)

That having been said, in my heart, I am rooting for you to be right! I'd love to see a righteous RW bloodbath right about now.

TC
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:29 AM
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14. Perhaps it will......
And I'm not being an optimist. But perhaps the republicans will start photo shoots to try to save their own asses, after finally seeing that their jobs are toast, and the election fraud movement is good as dead.

:popcorn:

But then lets say, this scenario happens and Congress begins to implode and fight the BushCo, the PNAC agenda. If they do, I'm sure we'll see more recess appointments.

As long as these crooks have "presidential" type power, they will slime everyone opposed as liberals. Happened in every scenario including the one with John McCain.

They will recess appoint John Roberts, and every other minuteman who stands behind PNAC. That is how they operate.

What is desired and required, is not more republican discontent. But a steadfast-bloodthirsty opposition, that is made up of Howard Dean and Paul Hackett, that is made up of the citizens.

Only THEN will you remove the regime trust me, there has to be a unified declared opposition with teeth and media.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:17 PM
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16. Nominated n/t
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:37 PM
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17. I will agree with you as soon as they lose some elections.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:41 PM
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18. Yeah I have to say the problem with the ending rosy scenario is this...
They will still do recess appointments and have shown utter contempt for any form of democratic process. As long as they are in control, they will continue to lock out all dissent. In fact, if the world was run by bickering children the PNAC neocon cabal would win all the awards.

Remember John Bolton was installed, not appointed. So was numerous other nominees. The only thing which will change the situation I'm afraid, is having them ripped from power by forced impeachment and then jailing. It is such a corruption cesspool that only jailing by the federal authorities will bring an end to republican lawlessness. That is all I can think of I'm afraid.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:07 PM
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19. Only in a Free Nation with a Trustworthy Voting System
and maybe a Free Vigorously Independant Press.

Imperial Amerika has NEITHER.

I hope you are right. History says you are dead wrong. They have already cemented their power in many extra-legal ways. The same Busheviks that reviewed the Conventions in 2004 (skewering the Dems, worshipping the Noble Fuhrer) will do so again without interefernce and question...and so much more.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:18 PM
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20. Let us hope and pray that you're right!
And let us act to make it true!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:28 PM
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21. absolutely; change is not going to take place on its own.
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 02:30 PM by corkhead
We do need to have a Democrat running for EVERY office in EVERY township, village, city, or state. Dog Catcher on up. I am strongly considering a run for county commissioner next year to unseat a repuke. He has run unopposed for years. I will probably lose in this predominantly repuke area, but then again, maybe not. Somebody has got to do it.

Rigged or not, we cannot win without candidates.

I know what I am saying is optimistic; the voting system is compromised, but even rigged diebold machines will not stop a tidal wave and I think we are approaching one. If all is already lost, why the fuck are we here on this website?

I don't know about everyone else who has responded to this thread, but I haven't given up yet.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:42 PM
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22. I'd love to believe you, but
Where has our leadership been this summer, beyond the usual heroes like Conyers, Boxer, etc? I don't see any of the acknowledged "leaders" jumping on Bush. I see plenty of DLC-types saying nice things about Roberts. And we all know how many of our leaders voted on the war.

I want you to be right, but I'm not holding my breath.
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