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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:09 AM
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Now they're finding 500 busses to take the people
from the Super Bowl and transport them to TX to stay in the Astrodome. The Astrodome can house up to 25,000 people.

My question is why weren't these people bussed out before Katrina hit and evacuated?? How many lives would have been saved? We know that after Katrina hit an additional 20K people were sent to the Super Dome.

Oh and the kids will be going to school in TX as well. Guess they'll get enough extra busses and teachers etc to handle it.

Maybe any governor of TX is president ... cause Bush only gave 1 minute 20 seconds to address the country about the aftermath of Katrina.

(All of this on CNN except my opinion at the end)
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:12 AM
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1.  Bu$h should've sent in Nat'l Guard & Army Corps of Engineers
BEFORE the hurricane hit.

The Feds should have sent regular army too since most of the LA, MS and AL NAt'l Guards are in Iraq. They should have reinforced ALL levees and provided extra pumps. They should have forced or paid the airlines to fly in empty planes and fly out passengers. The cruise ship should not have put off passengers in NO. They should have evacuated ALL of the hospitals by bus, ambulance, cargo plane or boat or whatever other way they could. They should have gone door to door and evacuated EVRYONE from their homes without the means or way to leave. The Nat'l Gaurd could have stayed in the Superdome then immediately deployed onto the streets of the city along w/ the engineers and other emergency workers.

The FEDERAL gov't should have done this all prior to landfall.
They did not and now people are dying/dead and NO is ruined

My husband's family survived the storm up in Lacombe, LA (across the lake.) They foolishly stayed in their homes but are somehow OK and by some miracle their homes did not flood. They have trees on the houses and other damage. They are very lucky.


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:15 AM
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3. Bush never listens to science.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:25 AM
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5. Remember - they were predicting it would be WORSE
two days before landfall. But they waited.


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:07 PM
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11. Where to begin
First off, Bush called up the LA Nat'l Guard to go fight in his Imperial War for Oil and Empire. That means that thirty percent of the LA guard members are over in Iraq, along with a major part of their equipment, including high water vehicles and other supplies that would be put to good use during a hurricane.

Now then, if a president is going to strip a state of its resources that are needed to deal with a disaster, then the federal government should damn well step in and take care of the people of that state. But they didn't.

As far as busses go, I doubt that NO had enough school buses on hand to get people out of NO quickly. However the Army has many many transport vehicles, including plandes and buses. Why not send them on down?

Commerical planes refused to fly into NO, stating that they couldn't afford to do one-way tickets. OK, fine, if the private airlines want to look like asses, great. But what about a fleet of C-130s? Easy to get in and get out, carries lots of people and supplies. And I personally know where a small fleet of a hundred are located in my state. Most other states have small fleets like this, they are the workhorse of the military.

The local civil and army engineers knew before hand that the levees were a weak point. Why not have the government re-enforce them with sandbags and quick setting concrete. These are all ready to go at FEMA, I lived through the '93 record flood in Missouri and saw this with my own eyes.

And rather than leaving these people stuck in NO with no food or water, after failing to get them out of there, why not come over with some air drops? Surely a country that could keep a foreign capital alive for months on air-dropped supplies could do the same for one of its own major cities. Instead, the government and Bushco are letting these people survive on their own. Thus, we see the looting and the rampant crime right now. Some compassionate coservative.:eyes:

And quite frankly, with their guard stripped and their funds low, LA, and any other state simply don't have the resources to pull this one off. And in fact they shouldn't have to. Losing a city like NO impacts the whole of the US, as we are starting to see with rising gas prices. Thus, it is the entire country's responsibility to help. This isn't some Federalist utopia that we live in, where each state stands alone. That disappeared over two hundred years ago, and we live in a very interconnected nation and society. Thus, not only for the sake of humanity, but for the nation's well being, it is our duty to help out others when they need it.

Sorry, but Bush and the Feds are falling down on this one. And once again we are all going to pay the price, especially those who live in LA, MS and AL.

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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:41 AM
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7. I work for a used car broker...
so I can't help but wonder about all the new and used cars left behind at the dealers' lots. It takes very little water damage
sustained for a car to be considered flood damaged and issued what they call a salvage title. I probably don't have to tell you
what that means to the value.

Why not offer these vehicles up to those that had no way out? I still believe in my heart that people are basically good. So, while
some autos may have been lost due to the dishonest not returning them, I think most people would have agreed to just drive them
until they were out of harm's way, maybe to some predetermined location.

It would have been a win win situation for the dealers in New Orleans. The cars would have retained most of their value, and they
would have helped save lives at the same time.
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OhioGirl Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:48 AM
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8. Sounds like a good idea.
I wonder why the emergency plan for the city didn't include something like that for the cars, and school buses and retaining flights for evacuations.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:13 AM
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2. If this is true there will be some unhappy people in Texas. eom
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:16 AM
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4. I don't think so
These people won't be relocated to affluent areas. That would be the only unhappy you would see.
They will just mix these poor folks in with the poor folks in Texas.
It's all good.
There are alot of good people in Texas--but they generally aren't the wealthy ones.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:24 PM
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12. It won't matter what neighborhood they move them into.
They have heard the stories about the gangs and the guns and will be afraid that NO is exporting a big, big problem to Houston.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:06 PM
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10. One of the aerial news photos showed 50-100 school busses underwater
I don't recall what school district it was, but I couldn't imagine why they'd been let to sit there rather than be used to evacuate people.
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