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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:13 PM
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Bush Better Than Clinton on Iraq, says Kerry
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 PM by WhoCountsTheVotes
In an attempt to justify his vote in favor of the October 2002 Iraq war resolution, Sen. John Kerry found himself inadvertently defending President Bush on Monday, saying he backed the measure because he thought President Clinton hadn't used enough force against Iraq.

"All of a sudden in 1998, Saddam Hussein doesn’t cooperate, Bill Clinton pulls our inspectors out so we could bomb for four or five days. Which we did," Kerry told a Keene, New Hampshire crowd.

But in quotes picked up by the New York Sun, Kerry then complained, "That’s it. End of story. Saddam Hussein is left alone. No inspectors go back in."

When the Bush administration presented the same evidence President Clinton used to justify the 1998 attack, Kerry said he was compelled to authorize the use of force because he had tried and failed to persuade Clinton to do the same thing.

"So, George Bush brings a legitimate security issue before the Congress in 2002," the Democratic front-runner told the crowd. "Am I supposed to turn away and ignore what I said in 1998, what I thought Clinton should have done?"

In comments that further bolster the Bush administration's case for war in Iraq, Kerry reminded his audience that weapons inspectors had already uncovered - not just evidence of weapons of mass destruction programs - but tons of biological and chemical weapons themselves, along with a thriving nuclear program.

"From the moment that we kicked out of Kuwait in the early 1990s, all the way through 1998, we had an American team on the ground under Ambassador Butler destroying weapons of mass destruction," the Massachusetts Democrat explained.

"People are quick to forget that," Kerry added. "Very quick to forget that."

"For 7 1 /2 years" he continued, "we destroyed weapons of mass destruction, folks, and you know what, we found he had more of them than we thought he had. And we found he was further down the road to the creation of nuclear weapons than we thought he was."

On edit:

From known CON source, but the quotes are (unforuntately) accurate. Ignore the spin and judge Kerry by his own words.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/1/27/134653.shtml

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:13 PM
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1. what the fuck?
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:15 PM
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2. do you have a link?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:18 PM
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7. Exactly, lets see evidence from something like a credible source
Cheese.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:20 PM
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13. The NY Sun is notoriously right-wing
Shows you how much respect some DUers have for checking their sources.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:22 PM
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20. do you doubt the quotes attributed to Kerry?
Ignore the spin - Kerry's own words are enough to convict him.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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Yes, we do.
We all do except those in the choir.
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sventvkg Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:15 PM
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3. OMFG!!!!! Please pass this on to ANYONE in NH!! Email it!!
SPAM IT!!!! Kerry is a looser!!!!! looser!!!! Give me a break people..
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:17 PM
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5. Wait for a link, please.
Thanks.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:22 PM
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19. try spell check.
Thanks.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:16 PM
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4. Link, please.
Thanks.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:17 PM
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6. Orwellian amnesia
...for the sake of repeated, dirty little wars against resource-rich 3rd world countries.

Who's worse, the Inner Party or the Outer Party?

I don't know.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:18 PM
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8. I am sorry but....
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 02:19 PM by dennis4868
if Kerry wins the democratic nomination I cannot vote for him....I will just not vote in the general election. He is a damn liar just like the Commander in Thief is (aka George Bush).

What in the world is he talking about....everything Kerry said has been proven wrong by the latest UN inspections before the war and the aftermath of the war where nothing was found. Also, Clinton presented evidence to congress of a possible threat from Iraq but not nearly on the same level as Bush presented to the world. Kerry is a complete idiot. He could easily say that Bush tricked him into voting for this war and that if he knew the truth (that Sadaam was not much of a threat at all) he would not have voted for the war.

I HATE Kerry!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:23 PM
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21. Democrats vote for the Democratic party nominee.
n/t
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:26 PM
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30. Tell it to someone who cares
Do whatever you want.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:18 PM
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9. Rather subjective headline, don't you think?
No link, quotations mixed in with commentary... I call bullshit.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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24. do you doubt the quotes attributed to Kerry?
Ignore the commentary - Kerry's words say PLENTY.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:18 PM
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10. link
link
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BearFlagDemocrat Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:19 PM
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11. This is from a Newsmax article.
I did a search on Google News, and the only article that came up with this info was from Newsmax. So there you go.

I'm not a Kerry fan, but hell, you're going to have to come up with something better than that.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 PM
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15. I dont know much about NEWSMAX but are you saying....
that Newsmax is putting words in Kerry's mouth? Are they making up his quotes in the article?
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:23 PM
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22. Newsmax is a radical rag funded by the same people...
... who funded the never ending witch hunt of Bill Clinton, so you might want to take a step back and never take anything they say at face value.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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28. Okay....
but it is not what they are saying that worries me but they are quoting Kerry....his own words alone make me mad!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:23 PM
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23. Yes, they do that all the time
they have a habit of making stuff up, like how Chelshea Clinton dissed the Secret Service and how Bill Clinton "loathes" the military, and Gore "invented" the Internet
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:20 PM
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12.  Democrats actually are willing to vote for this guy?
Not this one. Not ever.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:20 PM
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14. It's official: PNAC has assumed control of Kerry's brain.
If this sellout is nominated, It's a choice of moving to Canada or starting a revolution. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 PM
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16. This is what we are about to get folks......
Kerry......another bu$h/lite.No wonder the media whores and pundits are pumping him up. Why should anyone vote for a DINO when they can vote for the chimp and get the real thing? :argh: :hurts: :grr: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 PM
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17. Link please
I am a Dean supporter, but most importantly, I need sources before I believe anything.

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 PM
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18. Slam the guy who gave the Democrats
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 02:22 PM by Skwmom
two terms in the Whitehouse. Way to go Kerry.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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25. That's it!
I've had it with this guy.

Absolutely up to my gills.

Work for this guy and send him Money????????????? How's this any better than the shrubster? What's he gonna do with the IraqNam civil war in full bloom, if he's elected???? Send in more troops cause "we can't afford to lose" (see Vietnam for origin of this phrase)?

This is getting soooo fricking depressing.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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26. The NY Sun and NewsMax will twist up
all of your words and change the entire context of the meaning.

I wouldn't believe their crap anyday. Why don't you get quotes from a legitimate source.
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 PM
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27. This is basically republican twisting or Kerrys words. Well done.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:25 PM
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29. Citations from Newsmax are not permitted at all in the GD:2004 forum.
I am locking this thread.

Skinner
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