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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:23 AM
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Is any major DEM
doing anything? Can't the DNC do something? Hell, Clinton should just go on tv and say - look folks, I'm taking charge of this mess - call me and let's get something done and the hell with buscho and his cronies.

I know that sounds extreme - but GD IT!!!! SOMEBODY needs to TAKE CHARGE!!! This is just a total f'ing nightmare.

MERCENARIES are being hired to go to NO to take back control.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:25 AM
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1. Even in tragedy....
...there is opportunity. The Democratic leadership are complicit fucks. Get rid of them at the earliest opportunity.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:26 AM
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2. They are requesting relief donations via their email lists.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 10:26 AM by tasteblind
And they are letting the media focus on Bush and his incompentent response, as they should. He deserves the credit for this one.

Maybe you should sign up for some of their email updates. You might find that they are doing more than you know about a lot of things.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:39 AM
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3. Congressman John Conyers
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:39 AM
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4. They're writing a petition & wll circulate it as soon as things calm down
It's very, very sad.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:46 AM
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5. John Kerry and Howard Dean both did something:
John Kerry sent out an e-mail asking for donations immediately after the storm. That made me really sad: if he were president, he would've cancelled his fundraiser and dealt with the problem right away.

Later that day, Dean sent out a similar e-mail to the DNC's list.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:00 PM
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12. not just emails
and petitions and donations..... over the net..... they should go on national tv and declare what an incompetent BOOB buscho has been and state that they are organizing the relief effort!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:05 PM
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16. Yes, the Dem US Senators and Reps need to call publically, en mass
for impeachment.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:16 PM
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19. I know.
I was thinking just a little while ago about getting a paper petition and going door to door or standing on the street corner. Something. Anything!!!!

Then I heard a rightwingnut on talk radio (I was in my car and just looking for news) and OMG - I canNOT believe these @holes are claiming that Bush is such a great guy and doing the best he can and that the REAL PROBLEM is........ wait for it........






LIBERAL AMERICA!!!

Liberal America CREATED the problem (of the riots in NO) because we created a "sense of entitlement". That's the problem. People are poor because they're just lazy, doncha know. They do drugs cause the LIKE to. They all chose to stay there because they knew they'd have the opportunity to loot.


The only decent thing this jerk said was that Chertoff (Head of Homeland Security) and the Head of FEMA should both be fired! (Who does he think appointed these incompetent jerks??)



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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:22 PM
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20. Call your Dem. US Sen. and Rep and ask them to show some
leadership and demand the resignation or impeachment of bush.

(If you have a Dem Rep or Sen.)

It's time to ask them to side with America or to side with the bush crime family.

Anyone who believes the bush crime family is only composed of Republicans isn't paying attention.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:33 PM
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23. Fat lot of good that will do me -
I'm in NC.

Dole and Dumber...
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:36 PM
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25. Call Sen. Dem leader Reid (Dem NV) and ask him to call for bush
impeachment

Google US Senate and follow the links

He has a toll free #
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:41 PM
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27. thanks for the suggestion.
At least I'll feel like I'm doing SOMEthing!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:09 PM
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17. Alittle hard for Kerry to do that from Iraq
And what you are suggesting is only alittle less than a coup. If it would go that far.

Bush has the power, like it or not. Nobody's going to follow the Chairman of the DNC just because he says he's taking over. Get real here. And calling the president names isn't going to help anyone right now. How is calling Bush a boob going to get food and water to these folks?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:36 PM
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24. you're right
name calling doesn't help anyone but me.

One thing though, I come here to have a safe place to vent. I live in NC and it's hard to say ANYTHING to anyone against the pResident.

I'm so angry and overwhelmed and I admittedly I want to lash out. Calling him a boob is mild to what I'm thinking.

Coup? No. (Though it's a pleasant thought...) Just someone to take charge and coordinate this thing and get something actually done! I'm not the only one calling for a real leader to take over this debacle.

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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:51 AM
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6. Clinton should leave
He and wifey are part of the problem--and not part of the solution.

They compromise the D party while uniting with the Bush's socially and politically.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:42 AM
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10. Clinton will shill for the bastards again, smart to use his sellout ass
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:14 AM
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7. Show me a leader!
Senators Kerry, Clinton, Kennedy, Boxer, Biden, Gov Dean, Gen Clark, and others ... all of you, who continue to email me with messages about your causes or looking for me to contribute more money or seeking my vote ... I've supported your causes, I've donated money and I've voted for you. Hell, the first time I could vote in a national election I voted for George McGovern. I'm a lifelong Democrat. Now, I'm angry. I sent my money for victims of Hurricane Katrina while Bush was sharing birthday cake with John McCain. My money was spent to hopefully assist anyone who is trying to alleviate the suffering of our fellow Americans in the Gulf region while George Bush was still vacationing (in the golf region?). My money was spent while Bush was telling our fellow Americans in CA that troops are needed in Iraq to protect the oil so that it doesn't fall into the hands of terrorists. I purchased Michael Moore's film. I sent money to assist Cindy Sheehan. I contribute to DAV and VFW. I've signed petitions from Rep. John Conyers ... I live in Ohio and am aware of the fraud and corruption in this state. I've read Richard Clarke's book as well as John Dean's and the 9/11 Commission Report. Jaysus, Mary and Holy St. Joe!! When does this lunacy end? Would one of you please step forward and show some leadership. Visit the areas where our brothers and sisters are suffering. Appropriating more of my money to assist them isn't good enough ... go listen to the problems of these people and emerge as a true leader. I'll vote for whichever Democrat is our nominee; however, could someone just be a leader? Thank you. And no, I will not calm down!
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:22 AM
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8. Wes Clark shares your anger
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:22 AM by Texas_Kat
http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/1/123536/7907

"It all comes back to leadership"


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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:02 PM
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13. I was for him
before Kerry.

I've always liked this guy. (For a military guy, that is....)

I haven't checked your link yet, but I'm sure anything he has to say is a 1000x more intelligent than bush can try and read.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:23 PM
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21. Then please check out
This link.....

You might be interested in what a "military" guy was saying on 9/14/01, right after 9/11 in what our strategy should be in dealing with Terrorists. I think that you will find it to be an eye opener as to the type of "military" guy, Wes Clark truly is.

Come on...check it out and be pleasantly suprised- K? .... :) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x122187
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:40 PM
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26. Thanks for that
Seriously, I liked Clark before I even knew who he was. I heard him on TV and called hubby in - "I don't know who that guy is, whether he's a Democrat or Republican, but HE's the one who should be running for President!" and this was well before he entered the race.

However, hubby is suspect of ANYONE who is "career military" (Hubby is ex-Marine and one of those on whom the brainwashing did NOT take. He hated every single second of that rah rah hoo-rah kill kill bs.....).

Generally speaking, I'm inclined to agree with him, but I think Clark is an exception. Now if I can just get hubby to give him a chance.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:35 AM
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9. Wes Clark is one Dem leader that has had plenty to say....
all along. You might want to follow him a bit more closely.

I think poster above provided you with "some" of what he's had to say" most recently....but Clark has always been there talking at this administration and demanding that they be held accountable.

Clark's statement on Cindy Sheehan, which he made last week see here:
http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/93615683.html

In response to Bush's incompetence as it relates to Hurricane Katrina, please see his scathing remarks made: http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/1/123536/7907

Clark's take on Bush in Iraq-his statements made following his WAPO Op-ed on "correcting the course or getting out of Iraq", please see:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/8/29/94325/1284
He also appeared on MTP last Sunday, and was very critical our administration.


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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:11 PM
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18. Applause!! Applause!!
I have never, ever been this angry and when I hear the reports of bodies floating in the streets of a US city and no one there to help that Democratic Mayor get help for his people, I despise each and every person who has access to a microphone and doesn't express the outrage I am hearing from every, decent American I know, both Democrat and Republican.

There are the usual fighters, the Black Caucus, Rep. Conyers, the Mayor of NO, all black. Those are the only outspoken Democrats I have heard or seen on television. I saw Mary Landrieu praising people, I'm not sure who, interrupted, thank god, by Anderson Cooper to remind her that people are DYING in this city while she pats politicians on the back. Good for you Anderson. It was a great moment ~ someone at last expressing the outrage that needs to be expressed.

They COULD be calling for an emergency session of Congress to take over the rescue mission that this administration has totally failed to do. They should embarrass the majority into doing this on national television if necessary. They need not worry about their careers if they do this. The people are on their side!!

TO SAVE LIVES. That's what's at stake ~ petitions, we can sign them later! Expose this administration NOW. Or we will have more of this. They didn't do over Iraq, and they're not doing it now. I am disgusted, with all of them.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:02 PM
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11. I don't want emails and press conferences from the Democrats
I want someone to roll their fucking sleeves up and HELP.

Phone calls, petitions, telethons are all well and good, but how many will be dead by Monday?

Tell people to get in their SUVs, school busses, mini-vans and drive down there. Coordinate an effort to evacuate those poor dieing people to neighboring states' hospitals, shelters, schools, parks...whatever.

We sit here watching TV with our air conditioning on, taking showers and eating ice cream while these people DIE.

HELP!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:04 PM
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15. YES!!
YES YES DAMN YES.

I want something DONE. I want to DO something but why send "anything" if it's just going to get warehoused or lost or looted or stolen or diverted for someone else who doesn't even NEED it?

I don't even want to donate to the Red Cross or the Salvation Army or any of those "do-gooder" organizations that have HATE and POLITICS stamped all over them. The only one I think MAY not be totally corrupt is the SPCA and I'm not sure about them.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:02 PM
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14. Yes, there are
Boxer is busy circumventing the President to get things done. I doubt she's the only one.

But Clinton would have no power. Whatever he can do he'll have to do from where he sits as ex-prez.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:25 PM
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22. Clinton could always tell the truth. He could point out that bush
is an incompetant selfish sociopath and demand he resign. He could call on congress to impeach him.

But he won't do any of that. Why would he turn his back on his buddies to help out America?
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