Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

John Kerry on the Passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:51 AM
Original message
John Kerry on the Passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist
Senator John Kerry on the Passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist

For Immediate Release: United States Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) issued the following statement on the passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

“Chief Justice Rehnquist served our country for more than thirty-three years on our nation’s highest court, and every American recognizes the courage and commitment to the Supreme Court that sustained him as he battled serious illness through the very end. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family at this difficult time.

“America mourns Chief Justice Rehnquist, and also stops to remember the central role of the Supreme Court in the life of our nation. We know that as it has for hundreds of years, the changing Supreme Court will have an impact on our country for generations to come, and no single justice more so than the Chief Justice. As we move forward, it is important that the next Chief Justice is someone who will thoughtfully and responsibly uphold our Constitution for every American, with a clear and consistent respect for the freedoms protected by the Constitution.”

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=432
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Boilerplate BS
We can expect to see the same from other dems like Hillary, Biden, Feinstein, etc. They cannot be candid and say that the guy was a conservative loon who installed our current president in 2000.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Rehnquest was a loon
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 02:08 AM by Erika
who believed in states rights until it was time to pay back his right wing GOP, and install Bush, even though Bush did NOT win the majority of American votes. He was an activist that the right wing loved because his activism went their way. He was a joke.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #1
7. Well
I suppose they can't can they... it's called being polite when someone passes away. It's the right thing to do, even if someone is a loon and not well liked by certain people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
27. Exactly.
Kerry is being polite--exactly what I would expect from someone in his position.

Do you think the Pukes would do the same if it was Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Or Stephen Breyer?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. Yes, the elected thugs would be polite.
I'm sure the O'Liellys and and Robbersons would be as horrible as you expect.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #7
57. Also it's polite, appropriate and
gives as little praise as possible. (almost to the degree of damning with faint praise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
42. Well, you should read Kennedy's statement in that case.
At least, Kerry's one is neutral. Kennedy actually praises him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:16 AM
Response to Original message
3. Has Kerry said anything in support of Americans stranded in the Gulf
region?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Yes
He has.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Yes... and
He was in Iraq for a week, so je was not here when Katrina hit. He just returned last night and issued a statement on the mess down there...

09/02/05
John Kerry on Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts: “We Share a Collective Anguish and Frustration Over the Inadequate Response of the Federal Government” - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=414

And ealier in the week there was a statement from John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry & Fundraising Appeal

08/31/05
John Kerry Appeals for Help for Katrina Victims - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=397
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #3
31. Yes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:35 AM
Response to Original message
4. Who gives a crap about Rhenquist right now?
He dies in a comfy bed and lived a full life.

People are dying in MS, AL and LA in the streets. All young and old.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
23. he was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
The highest official of one of our three branches of government.


That's why people give a crap...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:09 AM
Response to Original message
8. Ehhhh
Standard stuff. Atleast it's not full of praise.

Pretty much expected.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Quick response given the time
No love loss for Rehnquist... just being polite when he should be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:32 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Exactly
Kerry's responses are quick and I'm sure it would have been for the disaster we're facing now as well.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
32. Yep, he would've acted a helluvalot quicker than what * did. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #8
24. I guess the statement has been ready for a while.
I doubt they spent a lot of time on that last night or this morning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joey93turbo Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:37 AM
Response to Original message
11. I wish
I wish that word for word John Kerry truely believed what he just said. Unfortunately John Kerry's voting record shows he is against upholding our 2nd amentment rights.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:10 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. What is an RKBA Democrat? And what makes one genuine?
NoFederales
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #14
36. "Right to Keep and Bear Arms"
I'm guessing; never actually saw it as an acronym before, but it seems reasonable in context.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
43. Genuine "RKBA Democrat"
To me would be a Democrat that draws the line of what "arms" are covered by the second amendment, somewhat less liberally than a typical rural conservative, who (might) draw a line just this side of tactical nukes.

I consider myself pro-RKBA to a point. Mainly because I think a lot of Dems go too far in gun control - I swear some would ban all guns everywhere except for military and police. I do think there are gun control measures that are allowed by the second amendment. For example, does it infringe on my right to keep and drive a car, because I have to register it every year? Does it infringe on my right to keep and drive a car, because I am not allowed to drive one until I've been trained to do so responsibly?

These are the questions that (I think) a "genuine RKBA Democrat" would have to ask. (Not necessarily come up with a certain answer, just be willing to consider). If they are not willing to discuss questions about where the lines should be drawn, then I suggest that the "Democrat" part of the title would be misapplied.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joey93turbo Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Not sure I understand...
Could you please explain what you mean? How is this not appropriate in a thread where he's quoted as saying it's important that we appoint a justice that will uphold the consitution? Is that not important for a senator too? It just sounds a tad bit hypocritical to me when you review his record on upholding that pesky 2a portion :)

I'm sorry, I know this is going to upset alot of people, but I know there are alot of Dems that agree with me too. I'm not a Kerry hater by any means, I'd jump on any public official just the same; whether I agree with them or not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #17
26. it would be more appropriate to jump on "any public official"
in a thread that was specifically a discussion of the 2nd amendment.

Your non sequitur of a post raises questions
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #11
35. I think he does believe and act on it, more than most
politicians.

He said:
"thoughtfully and responsibly uphold our Constitution for every American, with a clear and consistent respect for the freedoms protected by the Constitution"

There is some disagreement over the meaning of many parts of the Constitution, including and especially the Second Amendment. For example, do "arms" include nuclear weapons? No? Well, then, where do you draw the line?

Please note that is a rhetorical question, I am not interested in debating the 2nd amendment in detail here, this thread is not about that. (Start a separate thread if you want and pm me, and I'll try to join you later).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:25 AM
Response to Original message
13. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #13
25. Dont you think this statement has been ready for a while by now -
I kind of doubt he spent any time on that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:38 AM
Response to Original message
15. you realy let your countrymen down - case dismissed
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:52 AM
Response to Original message
16. It looks like
Pat Robertson's prayers are being answered!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:34 AM
Response to Original message
18. Kerry's comments were appropiate
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 09:34 AM by Kerry2008
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
19. Yawn.
Is "now" the time to release statements about this dead prick? Why isn't Kerry on TV slamming Bush? Or down in NO helping like Gore?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:42 AM
Response to Original message
20. What has Mr Kerry had to say about ...
... this administration's response to perhaps the greatest natural disaster in the history of our country?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #20
21. That's what I thought..
... well at least he stays in character.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. WTF? Obviously you didn't check the links in Post #6
He was in Iraq for a week, so je was not here when Katrina hit. He just returned last night and issued a statement on the mess down there...

09/02/05
John Kerry on Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts: “We Share a Collective Anguish and Frustration Over the Inadequate Response of the Federal Government” - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=414

And ealier in the week there was a statement from John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry & Fundraising Appeal

08/31/05
John Kerry Appeals for Help for Katrina Victims - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=397
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
29. Nothing on the role he played in subverting democracy in 2000?
Then this is fucking useless. USELESS.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. Yeah, that would've been really classy.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. So - send pain to the family because you don't like
something their just-deceased loved one did?

I don't get why you would want to spread hurt like that. And, it would certainly not inspire more people to vote for Democrats in the future, if they use someone's death to push a political point. (Remember Wellstone's funeral? Right or wrong, the hay repukes made of that?)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. Can you point out where I said "send pain to the family"?
Don't bother, since I clearly didn't say the words you're putting in my mouth.

I'm interested in the truth, not Republicans' feelings.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. Let's see...."We are sory for you loss BUT
your loved one played a critical role... in subverting democracy in 2000". (your words, in bold)

Yeah that would just make people feel great!

I don't think that the omission of that in this statement has anything to do with truth or lack thereof...it just isn't the place for it.

And how do you know that all of Rehnquist's family are Republicans?

And shouldn't we try to behave in a way that makes people respect Democrats and vote for them instead of saying "wow what classless losers those Democrats are?"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. "Chancellor Hitler will be missed by many. He led Germany through some of
her most tumultuous years. Among many other achievements that will long be remembered throughout the world, he ordered the creation of the Autobahn system and the Volkswagen automobile, reduced European overpopulation by more than 6M, and led an international initiative to achieve full employment in the munitions and public-service sectors.

Herr Hitler died suddenly with his bride, Frau Eva (née Braun) at their retreat under the garden at the Reichskanzlei in Berlin. Cremation was private. The couple leave no children.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. ??? Hitler analogy? Rehnquist?
Come on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Sorry that you didn't get it
There were people who cared about Hitler, too. The only people who will mourn Rehnquist are those who share his classist disregard for the rights of others and the rule of law. I have no respect for the feelings or wishes of such people, and can't imagine why anyone else would either, unless they're cut from the same ill-made cloth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. Well, I disagree strongly.
Rehnquist held opinions which I strongly disagree with, but to do what was suggested - blast him on the announcement of his death - would be totally classless and disrespectful, and yes it would be hurtful to people who didn't "share his classist disregard for the rights of others and the rule of law."

Have you ever lost someone that you strongly disagreed with politically?

I guess not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. As I said, there were people who mourned Hitler, too.
But they were all implicated in his crimes, to a greater or lesser degree. They profited. Those who knew what the Nazis were doing but felt helpless--they didn't mourn his death, they celebrated.

Same with Rehnquist. Those who mourn him are implicated in his crimes. They profited. I've no respect for the feelings of such people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. OK I got it. You say, Rehnquist = Hitler.
And, no one could have possibly cared for him that didn't participate in his "crimes."

Got it.

I am glad John Kerry is a rational, respectful person.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
46. Actually, I'm pretty impressed by
Kerry's press release. All it really says is "Rehnquist is dead. Sorry about that. The guy was around a long time. While we're at it, that means we get to choose another Chief Justice. Hope we get someone who gives a shit about the Constitution." It really says nothing else. As someone who has had to write a lot of crap that appears to be heartfelt but really is as meaningful as a yawn, I can tell you it is a tricky thing to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. Yes! Ah, it's nice to see someone that can read
between the lines and not just look for a reason to criticize.

You summed it up much better than I could.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:43 PM
Response to Original message
47. Forgot his role in stealing the 2000 election. But being kerry, it figures
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 04:44 PM by robbedvoter
One hand washes the other.kerry helped just as much if not more in 2004.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. Read all other press releases before you bash him
Kerry is by far the one who praises the guy the less.

So thanks for the bashing. I am not sure the statement needed a thread on GDP, but it certainly does not warrant your bashing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. My vote was stolen. Crying in my teacup and bashing. Non-stop.
Deal with it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. I can deal with it no problem - dont worry
I hope you liked Kennedy's statement in that case: "a great loss for the country".

Sorry, I dont have time to deal with you more than that. I realize that you are among the unconcerned about NO people, but for me, answering to you is just a nice way to forget these images a little bit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. WTF?
Your last statement is baseless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. Not so. Accomplices both. Drove the getaway car for BFEE. With my vote
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. HaHaHa!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You had me there for a minute, I thought you were serious!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. Still you give no facts for an absurd statement.
I suppose you trash Gore too, for a huge tactical error in not contesting ALL the FL counties (not to mention a PR disaster)?

Now, I DON'T go around trashing Gore - I think he is a GREAT man. He made a mistake. But based on your logic, he is an enabler too of this mis-administration.

As for complete ignorance of the voters, that was accomplished well before 2004 - didn't you notice the big snooze over what happened in 2000?

BTW where were you on May 19, 2001?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
48. Ha, good luck, won't happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
60. Locking
Once again any action by Senator Kerry has devolved into a flame war.

Unfortunate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC