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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:07 PM
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Gary Hart Attacks Can't stand the silence
Gary Hart can't stand the silence. He wants Democrats to make some noise about the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq and about what he sees as the lies that got the U.S. in the war in the first place.

Hart also wants Democrats to stand up and say they made a mistake when they voted for the war and to beg the American people to forgive them. "What's at stake," says Hart, "is not just the leadership of the Democratic Party and the nation but our nation's honor, our nobility, and our principles."

Hear a conversation with senator Gary Hart about the war in Iraq and the Democrats' silence.
link to his comments
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2005/08/20050829_b_main.asp
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:08 PM
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1. Do we finally have a rallying leader in this?
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:27 PM
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6. I hope, I hope, I hope.....come on leaders!!!!! n/t
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:09 PM
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2. Yes! Yes! Yes!
He GETS IT.

WAKE UP DEMOCRATS!!!!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:10 PM
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3. Yea but he is an adulteror..
Wonder if he still has the boat he was on in the pics?
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clarknyc Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:17 PM
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4. It wasn't his boat.
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fiveleafclover Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:25 PM
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5. Who cares
He's a politician, not my babysitter. That's a personal issue that doesn't concern me.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:15 PM
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10. Well said, fiveleafclover, and welcome to DU! nt
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:14 PM
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9. Yeah, but the truly unforgivable sin of his action
was he engaged in consensual sex with one adult female.

Had he been having a fling with a twelve year old (either sex), another man, or engaged in multi-partner orgies, the repugs would unnderstand because that would be within their personal frame of reference.

But... MY GOD!! CONSENSUAL SEX WITH AN ADULT HETEROSEXUAL PARTNER!!

!!!UNFORGIVEABLE!!!

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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:29 PM
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12. Being as adulteror doesn't mess up your mind like cocaine & booze.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:03 PM
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14. Oh no, not that...
please disregard everything he has to say. :sarcasm: MKJ
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:48 PM
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7. Wow! I'm only about 10 minutes into the interview & highly recommend
This is WELL worth the listen!

It's about 48 minutes total, Gary Hart advising the Dems to coalesce around an Iraq war policy opposing the administrations stance.

"Stay the course is not a policy, it's rhetoric. The Dems need to speak up about a real policy on how we can get out of Iraq.."


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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:03 PM
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8. It is worth the listening I await the transcript and this bumpersticker
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:15 PM
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11. LOVE the bumpersticker! nt
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CaptainDan Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:21 AM
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18. Bush Category 5 Bumper Sticker Available


The bumper sticker is available at: http://www.cafepress.com/captaincanard

All profits go to helping victims of Hurricane Katrina.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:01 PM
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13. How DO the Dems "make a lotta noise" about Iraq;
when most of them voted to fund it, knowing they were being lied to?

Gyre
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:12 PM
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15. Admit truth to the fact of that
Hart also wants Democrats to stand up and say they made a mistake when they voted for the war and to beg the American people to forgive them. "What's at stake," says Hart, "is not just the leadership of the Democratic Party and the nation but our nation's honor, our nobility, and our principles."

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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:18 PM
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16. my first impressions of Gary Hart were not positive..
when I first became politically active, the Donna Rice affair was the leading news story. Since that time I have enjoyed reading many of his books, and have been impressed with his thoughtful statements. He is one of few politicians expressing the view that Democrats must embrace their role as the opposition party. We need new leaders like him who are 30 or 40 years younger and willing to support the new role of our party.

Donna Rice is such a thoughtless, hypocritical flake..why did it take me so long to see that? Most Republicans are exactly like her, viewing vengeance as just another moral value and political obedience as an essential characteristic of modern conservatives.

I think Gary Hart will ultimately be remembered not for just being human, but for his warnings to the Democratic party. If our party continues to remain silent, it doesn't deserve to exist. In the words of Dante "the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crises maintain their neutrality."
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:29 PM
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17. "positioning the Party in the center is good politics but NOT leadership"
thanks so much for posting this link !!!

this is a must listen for DU'ers ...
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:41 AM
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20. the only thing in the middle of the road is road kill
this country is so hungry for leadership one half of us have followed a fool because he acts like he is decisive.

"first i voted for the $84 billion before i voted against it"

i heard that and all i could think of was dukakis responding to the question about what he would do if his wife was raped and murderd with banalities. i screamed at the tv and scard my dog that night.

would the democratic party leadership just get up on their hind legs and stand for something?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:33 AM
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19. adulterers...
God I miss them. So much more sincere than these bozo murderers.

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