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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:23 PM
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Suppose Bush resigns before being impeached
This sounds great and wonderful, right? Careful what we wish for, bcs it would be incredibly easy at this point for Bush to be made scapegoat for this whole thing, let impeachment build enough steam and then Bush is forced to resign by the country (and his cronies) and abracadabra, we now have President Cheney to lead us the rest of the way!! Ye gawds.

What am I missing here? How can you argue for Bush to be impeached or resign on his own without at least fearing a Cheney takeover?

In fact it has been argued here at DU (and elsewhere) that perhaps Bush is being setup by Rove and Cheney to look like an idiot here. Why else would Rove not have "handled" Bush better than this?
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:24 PM
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1. I don't care
HOW he is removed from office - he needs to be out of office NOW.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:26 PM
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2. He will not resign
and Cheney is not well enough to be president.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:03 AM
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31. That's right he won't
Resigning would be admitting error, something which Bush is incapable of.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:26 PM
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3. We will force Cheney out too.
Remember Nixon/Agnew?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:27 PM
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4. The Republicans know this better than us
they have mountains of evidence against Cheney, all they have to do
is ask him to step aside for health reasons,
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:27 PM
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5. wake up from your beautiful dream
it'll never happen. not in a million years.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:28 PM
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6. Resign, he wont even say im sorry
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:28 PM
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7. I don't think he should have the option, as much as
I want him out of there. The whole evil cabal has to go, and there is more than enough evidence to prove it. Now, will anyone with cojones and clout step up?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:29 PM
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8. I just want him gone.
Nobody likes Cheney he scares everyone I have ever spoken with and they are mostly Republicans where I live.

Think about it. Where in the hell is the Chimp going to go? Crawford and Kennebunkport are the only two places he can really go. Most of the rest of the world hates him, even where he has won there are enough people who hate him that he really would never be safe or comfortable anywhere. May he suffer a long, lonely life. Nobody deserves that more than this guy......along with Pappy and the Quaker Oats man he call Mother.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:46 PM
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13. The quaker oats man=mother, LOL, I didn't
get it at first, I had to remember what that picture on the box looks like, I vaguely remember.....but that's funny...my laugh for the day...thanks

Did you see the old bag on Larry King. The first thing out of her mouth was "I met alot of single mothers and baby's" hidden message "a bunch of unwed mothers", how does she know they are single. Maybe the husbands got seperated or killed while her son was golfing?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:08 PM
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16. I missed it thankfully
but DU is always so good to oblige with the tidbits of monstrosity that comes from this crew.

I am watching the US Open to save my sanity.

That is an old one that I got from DU, also she has been called George Washington but I think we all began to feel bad about that but it does fit, looks wise anyway.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:30 PM
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9. Draft Gore...and give him his rightly place....we have to get rid
of them all...and everyone he appointed..
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:31 PM
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10. Makes sense...
I can't see how Bush would be smart enough to make it this far, unless Cheney/Rove were setting him up as a scapegoat. They are behind all of the evil, Bush gets the blame and is impeached/resigns, and they take over. Both Cheney and Rove have been noticeably silent throughout this whole fiasco...
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:35 PM
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11. The scapes for this are Blanco(D)
Nagin (D) and maybe the FEMA director and some low-level officials.

* and Dracula aren't going anywhere.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:42 PM
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12. The Whole World is Watching.....
And the Whole World wants him out; and into the World Court at the Hague as a War Criminal. (perhaps that is why the Bu$h Cabal renounced the treaty binding it to the Court signed by Bill Clinton)

The Defendant has rights, you know......the right to a Fair Trial.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:52 PM
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14. He's not going anywhere
What we've got is 2006. That's the hope for the country right now.
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Dandy Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:50 PM
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26. You are someone who faces reality
Bush is not going to be impeached. He will remain in office until the end of his term. All the venom spewed at Bush only takes away energy from what we need to be doing and that is to take back the House and Senate. Concentrate on that instead of false hope that Bush will be removed from office.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:06 PM
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15. In the Spiro Agnew tradition, Cheney's gotta go first.
He could always drop dead, but what would be even better is proof that he's behind all the illegal no bid Halliburton deals. We all KNOW he is, but proving it is a different matter. It's just too fucking convenient that they have contracts to rebuild the Gulf Coast before the body count's even done.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:25 PM
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17. Did i miss something?
Did the House and Senate switch from being Republican?

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:29 PM
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18. International Criminal Court.
He is of no strategic intelligence value.
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 PM
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19. Meanwhile, the Rovegate investigation continues
Funny how that is so 6 crises ago.

I think it will bring them down.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 PM
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20. Never happen, not in a million years.
Bush would be clinging to the doorframes on the way out if he was removed from the WH.

My hope is that if impeachment proceedings were to ever take place, they would go for the 2 of them because a Cheney presidency scares the hell out of me.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:33 PM
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21. if he resigns at all, which is doubtful
I expect he'll follow Fujimori's example for his method of resignation, and Pinochet's example for evading justice.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:36 PM
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22. We'll declare a national holiday
singing
laughing
hugging
dancing in the streets

(no worries about Cheney... once the house starts to crumble..
the whole thing is coming down... including the republican party)


oh joy

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:39 PM
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23. Suppose virgins start raining down from heaven
beautiful virgins, and they......glurp....rubs eyes
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:46 PM
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24. Why do you think Cheney has been staying far, far away from Bush?
He knows Bush is catching major shit for this, and while he may be evil, he isn't stupid. He wouldn't mind taking over (well, officially...) and so he doesn't want to be involved.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:50 PM
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25. I think the best we can hope for is to treat him like
a petulant child. It'll be our way or the highway.

Unless the hard right drops him, which they may when they see their base crumbling, he will remain in office.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:36 PM
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27. For someone, who can not think of any mistakes he may have made,
I don't think he will ever resign, none of them will.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:32 AM
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28. REMEMBER THE NIXON SLOGAN?????
GET SPIRO FIRST....

E.G GET CHENEY FIRST!!!!!!!
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 AM
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29. Bush doesn't even have as much class as Nixon...
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 AM by WePurrsevere
(and that's not saying much)

he won't resign... he won't apologize... he won't even accept ANY responsibilty for HIS failings... he is by definition a true Sociopath.

So we're probably stuck with what we have and need to work on other priorities like:

keep getting the TRUTH out there via the Internet and bombarding the media to battle the LIES/SPIN

making absolutely sure that EVERY person's vote is counted

keep after the Republicans as well as the Dem reps... some more moderate Republicans are not straight party line (I know ours isn't 100%) and there's a chance that they can be reached with FACTS and logic.

helping in any way we can to get the Dems back in power.. first in '06 and then in '08
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JugDack Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:00 AM
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30. LOL!!!!! Nice dream, but never happen.
I'm sorry, but as much as we'd all like to see him go, he's as likely to resign as I am to eat my own foot.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:18 AM
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32. 8 Reasons why I would MUCH RATHER have Cheney be President than Bush
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 09:20 AM by NAO
I would rather not have either as POTUS, but if forced to choose I would rather have Cheney than Bush because:

1. He is not a mentally-challenged, speech-impaired, burned-out drug-addict/alcoholic.

2. He is not a religious nut-job; he is not a rapture-ready believer in religious superstition.

3. Even though he is generally Evil, he is at least COMPETENT.

4. He does not have any brothers that could be potential future POTUS candidates.

5. His wife was not always insane and evil, and she is most defiantly not a xanexed-out Stepford Wife like Pickles. A strong, competent, intelligent woman is a boost to any man, even an evil heartless misanthrope like Cheney.

6. His LESBIAN DAUGHTER. He has a direct investment in embracing diversity, and his family is a constant nuisance to Radical Clerics of the Religious Reich. Plus, Cheney does not give a F**K what Robertson, Dobson, et. al think of him.

7. Pissing off the Religious Reich and destroying the Religious/Republican coalition is probably THE MOST IMPORTANT thing we need to do to ensure future electoral victories for Democrats.

8. He is not "charming" like Bush. Granted, Bush evokes a visceral hatred, disgust, revulsion, and rage in most sane people. But he does have a HUGE following of people who WORSHIP him. They think his fake cowboy act, his fake Texas accent, and his retarded speech patterns are adorable and endearing. NOBODY finds Cheney adorable or endearing.

For these and many other reasons, I would MUCH RATHER have President Cheney than President Bush.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 AM
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33. If things got that tough for Bush....
Say, after the 2006 elections go well for the Democrats.

1) Cheney will resign for "health reasons"

2) A safe choice will become VP. (My recurring nightmare--the "truly bipartisan" selection of Leiberman.)

3) Bush will resign.

4) Pardons for all....
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