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Tue Sep-06-05 12:38 PM
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Major issue of Kerry campaign was that US is STILL unprepared and that |
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Bush's policies and his financial priorities were actually UNDERMINING our security and weakening our infrastructure.
When the Firefighters endorsed Kerry it was based on the fact that they KNEW Bush's policies were harmful and in many cases PREVENTED them from doing their jobs and meeting even the most basic needs in most communities all over the country.
Several times during the campaign, Kerry outlined policies to secure our ports and infrastructures and fully fund the first responders and securing for them the communications system they needed for disasters and/or terrorist attacks.
The media rarely ever even ADDRESSED the reason why the Firefighters endorsed Kerry, and never bothered to acknowledge that BushInc HAD NO PLAN and no policies in place to address the most necessary concerns. They needed to keep Bush's failures covered up for their corporate bosses.
The media could talk for hours about BULLSHIT LIES from the swiftliars, yet never gave even one comprehensive report dealing with the concerns from first responders and why it was an IMPORTANT campaign issue.
But, damn, how many times could media yakkers tell us how great Bush is on the terror issue...can't be beat, they say....American people feel safer with Bush as president.....ad nauseum.
So "they" said.
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:42 PM
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1. All I can say to those who now see that the shrub isn't making them safe: |
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:44 PM
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2. Kerry needs to get in front of a camera NOW. Lay it out. |
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:50 PM
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5. I agree - he needs to do that. |
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:10 PM
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12. If the media had any integrity, they'd play the clips from the debate and |
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his speeches...and add Bush's responses at the time.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:18 PM
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:33 PM
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.. that with a vehemence usually reserved for anti-Bush rants :)
Whoever gets out in front of the Rove PR/smear machine will get my energy and money come election time. And time is running short here folks.
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:44 PM
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3. Poor planning regarding tewwowism |
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betcha your Democratic heros voted for all that funding for homeland security AT THE EXPENSE of public infrastructure unrelated to tewwowism.
Don't try to spin it into something it never was.
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:49 PM
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4. THIS IS HOMELAND SECURITY AS WELL |
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And the Dems have been all along saying that we were not able to answer to this type of issues.
But of course, dont be surprised Bush will not take the blame. People like you are too happy to attack Dems around.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:01 PM
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9. Oh c'mon, that is stretching just to provide cover |
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for Democrats who went along with the whole tewwowism hiding under the bed--because I didn't hear them making big noises issues about SUVs and global warming---No, that was those damn fringe Leftists who kept carping on, certainly not reflecting the concerns of...mainstream Americans....while Democrats grandstanded about "staying the course in Viet, ooops, I mean Iraq.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:34 PM
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21. You better read what the dems (some at least) have said on these |
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subject, exactly the same where people like you are absent when somebody on DU try to post a thread.
This is just ridiculous.
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:56 PM
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7. Well, he voted six times against establishing HSA |
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because of concerns about funding for first-responders and the proper allocation of funds to where it was needed.
Isn't this a Dem issue. Won't it be an issue for all Dems in '06 and '08? Why are you so hostile to what is an issue for Democrats? Biden, Clinton, Kerry and a lot of others have brought this up as well.
Are you a Dem?
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:58 PM
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8. Why its you again- can't take you seriously. You just show up |
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:05 PM
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shattering those illusions just feels like bashing to those who bow at political thrones with stars in their eyes.
Sort of like calling someone un-patriotic or un-American when they utter uncomfortable truths.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:13 PM
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13. But it's not the truth |
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It's false. It's demostrably false.
Every Dem has been screaming about the problem with not funding first-responders. (Come on. Even you just have heard the 'We can build fire-houses in Iraq, but we are closing them in New york City.'
This is a Dem issue. The Dems have been strong on this. As has Kerry.
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Tue Sep-06-05 07:47 PM
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23. If you ever uttered the truth about Kerry, I'd dare say it was accidental |
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but, then again, that is likely never to occur.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:07 PM
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11. You seriously don't understand how some issues are inter-related, do you? |
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Try expending some effort in understanding the whole picture instead of wasting energy on baseless sarcasm.
Gary Hart should be head of Homeland Security right now. A REAL Homeland Security with depth, integrity, and ABILITY. And you'd still find a way to attack Kerry for that.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:20 PM
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my house is on the federal buyout list, a house we spent years restoring- meanwhile I had to take out a mortgage, which I can ill-afford, on another one just to get out of harms way. Meanwhile politicians prattle on about the threat of tewwowism and winning missions-- and deplete the funding for those left in harms way.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:25 PM
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18. Get real. If HartRudman had been employed IMMEDIATELY, 9-11 wouldn't have |
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happened. HartRudman was all about securing this nation INTELLIGENTLY from within and without, and outlined URGENT measures for "homeland security" that would have made all the difference in the world in countering terrorism AND disasters.
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Tue Sep-06-05 12:52 PM
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6. Damn right he spoke about these issues and the media just |
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played by the Rove handbook. I am so angry now because I think we all realized how phony Bush's security stance was, but people bought into it due to the media coverage. Remember the Security Moms? I wander how secure they feel now? I also know without a doubt, that if John Kerry were President, this would not have played out so tragicly. John Kerry has enough vision to look ahead and ask the what if questions.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:14 PM
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14. As did Al Gore. As did a lot of other Dems |
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This is a bread-and-butter Dem issue. We don't cut appropriations that are absolutely necessary to protect the country in a time of either terrorist attack or natural disaster.
This is basic Dem stuff.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:22 PM
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17. True. When Firefighters endorsed Gore it was based on Gore's plan to fully |
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fund better response training and update their communication abilities.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:30 PM
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19. Kerry needs to go on TV and say what you just said. |
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And then when they accuse him of "playing politics"- he says "No, Im just clearing up all the lies that your station and Bush told, Wolf."
One can dream.
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Tue Sep-06-05 02:23 PM
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Wed Sep-07-05 07:36 AM
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24. Agree. But my point was that the media is also to blame because they CHOSE |
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to ignore Kerry's warnings all last year and he WAS speaking out regularly about how Bush was shortchanging the infrastructure needs and the emergency response needs all over the country.
The media REFUSED to discuss it as an issue, even when Kerry said it in the debates, let alone in nearly every campaign speech.
You would think that after 9-11, the media would have WANTED to hear the concerns of Firefighters and first responders and give them the opportunity to air their concerns, but, instead we got hundreds of hours of Swiftliars who were debunked within days when the book first came out.
This thread puts the blame squarely where it belongs - a media that CHOSE to ignore the real concerns of this nation in favor of fabricated outrage by liars and GOP operatives.
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