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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:01 AM
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I'm asking for some good responses for Bush supporters.
As I'm sure most if not all of you are aware, when discussing political issues with Bush supporters, especially the Bush junta's failings, they often--in fact, most of the time--don't even attempt to defend Bush's policies/decisions, whatever, but resort to attacks on Clinton, others in the Clinton administration, Kerry, etc.

Any of yall out there have a dignified but well-chosen one- or two-liner to say diplomatically, "Quit trying to change the subject. Bush fucked up."
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:03 AM
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1. Read the info on this thread:
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:04 AM
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2. Clinton hasn't been president for 5 years
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:10 AM
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3. These guys are sooooo sensitive......
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 08:14 AM by wake.up.america
I just read this:

To: FMBass
Our President, who is drug free and has no history of alcohol abuse and performs very professionally, is a shining beacon of light to those around the world.



15 posted on 09/07/2005 5:51:41 AM PDT by wedonotcar
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Yes, our president IS a shining beacon of light to those around the world, at least for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see. He DOES perform extremely professionally. The fact that he was able to raise above his alcohol abuse at an earlier period of his life should be a heart-warming and encouraging example of hope to all who have stumbled--and are humble enough to admit it.



18 posted on 09/07/2005 5:54:29 AM PDT by twigs
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Nice try Troll.



22 posted on 09/07/2005 5:56:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:11 AM
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4. Response to my "Red Neck" neighbor - You can defend the
president and his cronies till the cows come home but, I thought we spent all that tax money to make sure we were safe. Do you feel safer now?
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:20 AM
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16. Oooh. That's a good one.
Thanks! I may use that next time!

FSC
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:20 PM
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27. That should be a bumper sticker
Hey America: Does Bush/Cheney make you feel safer NOW?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:23 AM
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5. Ask how much slack they'd cut President Kerry
if he were off wind-surfing and skeet shooting as a Cat Five storm hit and destroyed a major metropolitan center.

Ask if they'd be ok with him appointing someone from a French Wine-taster's commission to head FEMA.

That should shut them up for a few minutes at least.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:30 AM
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6. I may end up fired today.
I went OFF on a coworker this morning, trying NOT to go off.

She wanted to come over and talk about the hurricane, and I am still WAY TOO UPSET to do it rationally with a Bush supporter. She wanted to come tell me about a cat she heard that saved her owners life, and blah blah blah-- and OOOOHH how awful this is.

This woman is always talking about how well she raised her sons-- that one of them worked at a homeless shelter this past summer, and how the family volunteered for this or that.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't mean SHIT to me, because she votes for those murderous sons of bitches, and won't listen to any kind of argument against them.

We got into about Iraq last year, and she cared nothing for giving her sons to the war effort "because mothers of sons are just used to that. It's what you get used to." :eyes: I told her her sons would be dying for a lie. She told my boss.

Someone downstairs put up a Bush sticker on their office window before the election, which is considered against the rules, because it messes with other employees' morales. So I put up a Kerry sticker. My boss told me to take it down. I said I'd take mine down when the employee downstairs did. She said she wasn't his manager. Of course, it had NOTHING to do with the fact that she was a Bushie too. :eyes:

So I cannot talk politics here anymore. I've been warned.

When she wanted to talk hurricane this morning, I let her finish her story about the cat, told her Oprah had supposedly been very powerful yesterday, and then said "I'm sorry I can't talk to you about this right now. I'm still too upset."

Oh she was upset too, she said, paused and wanted to keep going. "NO," I said, "I cannot talk to YOU about this. BUSH is responsible for those deaths, E! HE had the money in the budget for FEMA, and HE CUT IT! Those people are DEAD because of BUSH! And I cannot talk to you about this because I am TOO UPSET RIGHT NOW! I do not want to get fired! Do you understand???!! Please just stop, OK??"

Boss will be in later. I'll let you know if I'm still employed.
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magnetism Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:43 AM
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7. Good Luck!
Doesn't sound very promising. I went off on someone last year during the election run-up and got canned. Hopefully, you will just get a stern warning.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:47 AM
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8. Good luck.
There is a certain sales guy where I work who is the same way. I'm afraid if I see him I'm not going to be able to hold back.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:48 AM
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9. Why should you get fired? You tried to put an end to
the conversation (while getting your point across). :hug:, fsc.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:06 AM
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11. Thanks, sweetie.
One other coworker pointed out how short-staffed we are right now. Hopefully that will work in my favor.

I will not let myself be bullied. The only reason I've hung out this long is because of the insurance.

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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:14 AM
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12. Hopefully something better will come up for you jobwise.
I really feel for you having to work with RW nuts like that. I did it for years, and it really taxed me emotionally.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:19 AM
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15. If I could move to Madison or Seattle tomorrow, I'd do it.
I've been stagnating here for the last few years now. And it's mostly because I hate most of my coworkers. They're sheeple. There are about 5 in a company of 600 or so that I know are sympathetic.

I'm hoping the hurricane has upped those numbers, but have to be very careful about finding that info out.

reprehensor and I have been trying to pay off our bills and move to Alberta, but we're still aways from that. He DID surprise me the toher night, and broke the news to his dad that we're considering it. That was a big step for him.


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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:51 AM
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18. You are fabulous and so right. I sure hope you are still employed but
in the meanwhile, look for another job.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:30 PM
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22. Well, nothing happened today...
although I was tensed up waiting for it.

Tomorrow could be different...we'll see. Thanks for the well wishes everyone!

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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:35 PM
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23. You CANNOT be fired for this!
You asked her to stop, she did not. She harrassed YOU! This is not allowed, and is in fact, illegal. Trust me. WE had a similar situation at work involving the Bible thumpers trying to convert a co-worker.

YOU need to go to your boss and complain about HER to cover your ass. If your boss dismisses it, tell her that you consider this harrassment because of your political views, and that if she does not notify the employee of your wishes for her to leave you alone regarding politics, you will take it up the chain of command and file a grievance against her (your boss).

She should cave.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:40 PM
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28. Listen, if you do get fired:
1. Document up the ass hole.
2. Contact your local Dept. of Labor and file a complaint.
3. Contact a labor lawyer.
4. Sue the bastards for all their worth.

Good luck, this may be the best thing to happen to you.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:05 AM
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10. Try this link
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/7/03232/64789

It lays out a nice timeline of who did what when and who should have the responsibility.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:58 AM
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19. THIS IS IT!!! This is the clear outline of federal responsibility that can
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 09:59 AM by Wordie
debunk all the claims that it was the state and local folks who were to blame.

Please start a new thread with an announcement of this as a headline! This is REALLY important!

If you start the new thread I will immediately nominate it...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:15 AM
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13. "Let history decide." Try itit works. nt
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MintOreoCookie Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:19 AM
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14. I ask, "What does Clinton have to do with the job Bush is doing?"
Or perhaps say, "I guess you're incapable of saying anything positive about Bush, so you resort to attacking someone who hasn't been president in over 5 years, which, of course, is the republican way."

Or laugh and say, "Is that the best you can do?"
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:42 AM
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17. Yall came up with some good ones.
I'll save and memorize them.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:04 AM
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20. How many Americans have died since Republicans gained control?
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 10:05 AM by Toots
How many died under Clinton? Doesn't matter if it is bad luck or bad policy or incompetence Americans are dying in record numbers under republican management. Why should that continue?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:10 AM
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21. Just shake your head and tell them they're nuts. They are. nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:46 PM
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24. how many cities died because of Clinton's blow job? And, if Clinton
has to take responsibility for his 'immorality' when does Bush?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:15 PM
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25. "Jesus H. Christ, they let you out without a keeper???"
always works for me.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:18 PM
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26. You are SO right!!!
"in fact, most of the time--don't even attempt to defend Bush's policies/decisions, whatever, but resort to attacks on Clinton, others in the Clinton administration, Kerry, etc."

Ain't that the truth!!!

Someone told me here to tell my husband (R): "When are you going to stop making EXCUSES for him???" Then walk away.
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