I, for one, will be sorry to see Lieberman go

[ButterflyBlood]

maybe he won't drop out, but the writing's on the wall, he's won't be placing in NH, or anywhere else. He's finished. And when he leaves, we all will breathe a sigh of relief that his ill-fated campaign is finally done. However, Lieberman brought something special to DU. He was the unofficial punching bag. Whenever we didn't feel like bashing Bush, he was the one. I remember the old insane rants about how much Lieberman was disliked, and laughed my ass off. I loved raving about how I hated his nanny state morality. I loved the hyperbolic attacks on him.

So yes, even he had a role for DU. He brought unity, and with him there'll just be more sniping between the main candidates. While the field needs to clear, no longer having him asorb the attacks will be missed.

So thanks Joe. As much as I dislike you and your politics, you did us all a service.

[bigwillq]

1. Even though I'm from CT

I never agreed with any of Joe's policies but he has done a lot in the senate over the years. I still dislike hearing people in CT say they're voting for Joejust because he's from CT. That doesn't make much sense to me.

[populistmom]

14. I'm in CT too

We've got to come up with someone else to run against him for the Democratic spot in 2006. Actually, Larson's my congressional representative and I think he'd be great (voted agaist the resolution by the way), but because of the local loyalty thing, he's backing Joe too. I'm interested in seeing who he'll support if Joe drops out in the next week and there's no one clear cut as the frontrunner.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. Should I alert this to be locked?

I expected a genuine bit of sympathy and this is anything but. :thumbsdown: Shame on you.

[Dark Star]

8. So far,

let me emphasize: so far, this has not been nearly as negative as I would have predicted. Of course, there's still time.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Just very disappointed since the "sorrow" was for the wrong reason

:(

[Dark Star]

19. Don't get me wrong:

I completely agree with you and I question there was anything resembling "sorrow".

:pals:

[Doctor_J]

3. Same here

a little too Bushie for me, but he is a great man and I like having him in the party and in the race. Zell Miller, OTOH, I can do without.

[starscape]

4. Joe, don't let the door hit you on the ....

Oh, you know the rest... :)

Na na na na
na na na na
hey hey hey
Goodbye...

(Okay, I'll miss his sense of humor a little, for sure..)

[bhunt70]

5. I think its a discredit to just think of Joe as a punching bag.

While he may not be the favored son in this race, he's still a good man. He may not be the most liberal guy, but he is a democrat.

Big Tent remember?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. One less knife in Dean's back.

[Blitz]

10. When all is said and done

Senator Lieberman will still be serving his country, as he has for decades, and Howard Dean will be looking for speaking engagements and book deals to explain how his losing was somebody else's fault and how angry he is about it.

[Dark Star]

7. Lieberman's Record:

http://www.news8.net/internetsearch.hrb?k=lieberman - 39k (#8)


Keep abortion safe, rare and legal; with 24-week viability. (Dec 2003)
FDA’s RU-486 decision stands; it’s made properly by experts. (Oct 2000)
Leave abortion decision to a woman, her doctor, and her god. (Oct 2000)
Rejected partial-birth ban since it ignored maternal health. (Oct 2000)
Supports abortion rights within his faith, not despite it. (Sep 2000)
Parental consent with judicial override; Gore agrees. (Aug 2000)
Supported parental notification for minors; but pro-choice. (Aug 2000)
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted NO on disallowing overseas military abortions. (May 1999)


Sunset the Patriot Act. (Nov 2003)
Marched with Martin Luther King in 1963; keep dream alive. (Sep 2003)
Marched with MLK, fought for voting rights in Mississippi. (May 2003)
Opposes laws against gay sex & sodomy; focus on real crime. (May 2003)
Better economy helps blacks: Rising tide raises all boats. (May 2003)
Support Equal Pay Act for women; plus loans & lawsuits. (Oct 2000)
Equalize pay for women; it’s unfair and unacceptable. (Oct 2000)
I do support, and will support affirmative action. (Aug 2000)
Never supported CA Prop. 209 banning affirmative action. (Aug 2000)
Support affirmative action and end all discrimination. (Aug 2000)
Supports affirmative action now; but phase it out by 2010. (Aug 2000)
Affirmative action is “patently unfair”, in 1995. (Aug 2000)
For gay equal employment; against gay marriage. (Aug 2000)
Affirmative action divides us. (Aug 2000)
Expand “Hate Crimes” to include women, gays, and disabled. (Jun 2000)
Participated in MLK’s March On Washington. (May 2000)
Express religious faith in schools, within Constitution. (May 2000)
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all. (Aug 2000)


Enforce existing laws & reduce threats to air & water. (Nov 2003)
Texas is last in social programs; but first in pollution. (Oct 2000)
Religion is the foundation of environmentalism. (Oct 2000)
Continue strong commitment to clean air, water, land. (Aug 2000)
Strengthen CAA; protect ANWR; create more national parks. (Aug 2000)
Advocates for robust environmental protections. (Aug 2000)
Strengthen Clean Air Act & Clean Energy Act. (Aug 2000)
Invest $2.5B in open space preservation. (Aug 2000)
$85M over 5 years for brownfield re-development. (May 1999)
Voted NO on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001)
Voted NO on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat. (Sep 1999)
Voted YES on transportation demo projects. (Mar 1998)
Voted YES on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. (Sep 1997)
Voted YES on continuing desert protection in California. (Oct 1994)
Voted YES on requiring EPA risk assessments. (May 1994)


Allow reimport of drugs with FDA approval & price decontrols. (Sep 2003)
Rx drug costs whack seniors. (Sep 2003)
Too large health programs will force tax increases. (Sep 2003)
Medi-Kids: guaranteed care until age 25. (Sep 2003)
Step by step is the way. (May 2003)
Return taxes to Clinton-era rates to improve health care. (May 2003)
No more big-spending health plans. (May 2003)
Texas slow to register kids in federal health insurance. (Sep 2000)
Patient Bill of Rights: access; choice; privacy; appeals. (Aug 2000)
Voted to cut Medicare & raise age; now would not. (Aug 2000)
Health insurance for every American child. (Aug 2000)
Supports health insurance industry (based in Hartford CT). (Aug 2000)
Limited lawsuits against HMOs and automakers. (Jan 2000)
Voted YES on allowing importation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002)
Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)
Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on including prescription drugs under Medicare. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on limiting self-employment health deduction. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on increasing tobacco restrictions. (Jun 1998)
Voted NO on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
Voted YES on Medicare means-testing. (Jun 1997)
Voted YES on medical savings acounts. (Apr 1996)
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care. (Aug 2000)


For counter-cyclical farm subsides, despite criticism abroad. (Jan 4)
To stimulate jobs, repeal tax cuts & support trade. (Nov 2003)
Build on Clinton-Gore record on taxes and jobs. (Sep 2003)
Lifetime opportunity for training. (Sep 2003)
Trade creates jobs, despite it being unpopular to unions. (Sep 2003)
Commitment to labor & working families stressed. (Sep 2000)
For minimum wage; against labor on free trade. (Aug 2000)
Small business drives job creation. (Aug 2000)
Train local workers to reduce dependence on foreign labor. (Feb 2000)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Voted NO on killing an increase in the minimum wage. (Nov 1999)
Voted NO on allowing workers to choose between overtime & comp-time. (May 1997)
Voted YES on replacing farm price supports. (Feb 1996)


Joseph Lieberman is a Moderate Liberal Populist.



That is more the way I would rather say goodbye than with the vitriol exhibited on DU. His career is over and he has been much too conservative, but he has also done some good things.

[OKNancy]

11. I still don't like him

He IS really very liberal on many issues, and he has been a good Democrat ( except on his cheering of Iraq)....BUT I just can't stand him. I just don't like him. It's his voice and his demeanor and also he is a sure loser. I say get rid of the sure losers.

[Robbien]

15. And he was one of the two who requested Scalia step down

from the Cheney Energy Case.

Wish him well in the future.

[Arugula Latte]

24. Too bad he didn't show any backbone...

when he let the Republicans flush democracy down the toilet in Florida... I'll never forgive him for that, and for the subsequent Bush ass-kissing. He's a sanctimonious and, frankly, somewhat creepy guy.

[Indiana Democrat]

17. His career isn't over...

...he'll be a fine Democratic Senator for as long as he likes.

And he'll continue to be mocked and abused here for being a fine Democratic Senator who holds a few differing opinions.

[spooky3]

22. Good post. At the match-your-candidate sites

most of us would match JL much more closely than we would Bush, and he is closer to the Dem pack than many believe. There is a big difference between him and * on voting records/positions. It's just that I disagree with him more than with other Democrats and given a choice I will go with the others.

But I thank Lieberman for running.

[Syn_Dem]

9. Better a Joe Lieberman....

Than a Rick Santourm.

[Indiana Democrat]

13. Joe is a good man...

...supported by a lot of good Democrats. Including Vice President Gore.

Personally, I don't like running-off ANY voting Democrats (Yeah, I'm just a wishy-washy pragmatist who just wants to WIN!)...I wish we wouldn't do it so much here.

[Astarho]

16. Joe is honest with his beliefs

He stands firm on his positions. I disagree with many of those positions, but I give him credit for staying with his beliefs

[slinkerwink]

18. The Joementum will still be with us!

;-)

[Edge]

20. Bye Joe!

I won't miss you!

[anti-NAFTA]

21. Lieberman isn't going anywhere.

He has a chance of beating Clark tonight and is polling very well in Florida.

[Arugula Latte]

25. Yeah, but let's face it...

Joe has ZERO chance of winning the nomination. None. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Thank goodness!

[dolstein]

23. Alas, the DU'ers won't have poor Joe Lieberman to kick around anymore . .

NT