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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:37 AM
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Clift: If there’s an upside to Katrina (the Republican agenda "is over")
Hurricane Politics
If there’s an upside to Katrina, it’s that the Republican agenda of tax cuts, Social Security privatization and slashing government programs is over.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9271481/site/newsweek/

Sept. 9, 2005 - It feels like we’re back in a political campaign with the White House shifting blame to local and state Democratic officials for the shamefully slow response to hurricane Katrina’s devastation. You can fault all levels of government, but the federal government is the last line of defense, and it was clear by the day after the storm struck that this was a regional disaster with national implications for the country’s economic and social well-being.

President Bush has worked so hard to not repeat the mistakes of his father, especially the senior Bush’s lackadaisical response to Florida's Hurricane Andrew, which helped cost him re-election. Former president Bush was never able to reconnect with the American people despite such heroically comic efforts as reading aloud a talking point his handlers had given him: "Message—I care."

Such are the pitfalls of the Oedipal relationship that the seeds of the son’s downfall may have arrived in the same blast of wind and rain. President Bush’s disapproval rating now stands at 52 percent, and two in three Americans give him a thumbs down on handling hurricane relief, according to the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. The national survey also finds Americans are “depressed, angry and very worried about the economic consequences of the disaster.” With gas prices spiraling and an unnecessary war draining billions from the Treasury, Bush’s inadequacies are glaringly obvious, from incompetence to insensitivity. The credibility gap that emerged on Iraq has widened to a chasm with the hurricane aftermath. The media has turned a corner as well, with reporters on the scene in New Orleans liberated to say the emperor has no clothes.

At the heart of the problem is Bush’s disdain for government. His first director of FEMA (the Federal Emergency Management Administration) was his Texas buddy Joseph Allbaugh, who described the then-cabinet level agency as “an oversized entitlement program.” Allbaugh, with Bush’s blessing, proceeded to downsize FEMA, and when he left he tapped for his successor his college roommate, Michael Brown, FEMA’s general counsel and former head of the International Arabian Horse Association, a man with questionable credentials for disaster management. Bush’s remark, “You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie,” will live on in the annals of Bushisms—especially after Brown was removed from Katrina operations and sent back to Washington on Friday. For believers in the grand unified theory of conspiracy, Allbaugh now lobbies FEMA on behalf of Halliburton, the administration’s gravy train of choice.

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:57 AM
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1. It's dangerous thinking to believe...
...that the Bush/Republican/Neocon/Conservative agenda is 'over'. Their ability to defund the Great Society and New Deal has nothing to do with popularity polls. It has everything to do with owning the government and media.

The best that can be said is that we've been given an opening to fight the Bush agenda. But success depends upon the Democratic party's ability to respond as one voice against a force that wants to deny them ANY voice in government.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:22 AM
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2. These bastards are going to fight like cornered rats
or the half humans that they are.

They are more dangerous than ever -- the aren't through looting the treasury.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:45 AM
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4. September 30th
That's when Bush's "Tax Advisory Panel" turns in their recommendations for a "fair and simple" tax code.

Bush wants a consumption tax. You can call it a "National Sales Tax" or a "Fair Tax" or a "Sodomize The Middle Class Until There Is No One Left" tax, but he made his intentions clear during the 2004 election.

Then Kerry called him on it and he backed off, but ONLY until he was "re-elected."

If Bush's "Fair & Simple" agenda FAILS, Clift is right. If we end up with a "National Sales Tax," her article was the equivalent of whizzing in the wind.

We shall see. In the meantime, THIS is what Bush wants:

From Bruce Bartlett:

"You know, I'm not exactly sure how big the national sales tax is going to have to be, but it's the kind of interesting idea that we ought to explore seriously," Bush said, according to a Reuters report.

August 09, 2004, 8:47 a.m.

A National Sales Tax No Vote: The rates would be vastly higher than what you might suspect.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert created a flurry of excitement in Republican circles the other day when it was reported that he is proposing the abolition of the Internal Revenue Service in his new book. This would be accomplished by eliminating all existing federal taxes and replacing them with a national retail sales tax. There is no indication of what tax rate Speaker Hastert thinks would be necessary to replace all federal revenue. A current proposal by Rep. John Linder (R., Ga.) says that a 23 percent rate would be adequate. But such a low rate can only be sustained by making completely absurd assumptions about what would be taxed. Every serious economist who has ever looked at this question has concluded that a vastly higher rate would in fact be needed.

An unstated assumption is that the 23 percent rate proposed by Linder is comparable to existing state and local sales taxes, where the tax comes on top of the purchase price. Thus, a 5 percent sales tax on a $1 purchase comes to $1.05. But that’s not the way the Linder plan works. He deceptively calculates the rate as if the tax is part of the purchase price. He calls this the tax-inclusive rate. Calculating the rate the normal way people are accustomed to with state and local sales taxes would require a 30 percent tax rate, not 23 percent. When Congress’s Joint Committee on Taxation scored the Linder proposal four years ago it estimated that it would actually require a tax-inclusive rate of 36 percent, not 23 percent, to equal current federal revenues. Calculating the rate in a normal, tax-exclusive manner would mean a 57 percent rate.

Economist Bill Gale of the Brookings Institution notes that supporters of the sales tax assume that there will be no tax evasion under their proposal and that the size of government will not grow, even though they would send a large annual check to every American in order to offset the regressivity of the tax. Making realistic assumptions, Gale estimates that the tax-inclusive rate, comparable to Linder’s proposed 23 percent rate, would actually have to be about 50 percent. A rate comparable to existing sales taxes would be close to 100 percent. And let us not forget that state and local sales taxes would come on top of the federal sales tax, pushing the total rate even higher. Obviously, the federal government is not going to impose tax rates this high, nor would anyone pay them if it did. There would be a massive tax revolt.

From Nancy Pelosi:

http://democraticleader.house.gov/press/releases.cfm?pressReleaseID=701

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 23, 2004

Pelosi: ‘National Sales Tax Would be Burden for Middle Class Americans, But Boon for the Wealthy’

Washington, D.C. -- House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi held a news conference in the Capitol this afternoon with Congressmen Charles Rangel of New York, and John Spratt and James Clyburn, both of South Carolina, to denounce a Republican plan for a national sales tax. Below are Pelosi’s remarks and a fact sheet about the proposal:

“Today, we are here to highlight one of the many clear contrasts between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans want to undermine our American values of prosperity and fairness with a new national sales tax of at least 30 percent and as high as 50 percent or more on all goods, including homes and cars.

“A national sales tax would be a burden for middle class Americans, but a boon for the wealthy. Families with children would lose their current tax deductions, and seniors would essentially be taxed twice.

“This proposal is ludicrous and should be dismissed outright. Yet Speaker Hastert wrote about the national sales tax and the flat tax in his new book, saying ‘both of these ideas are worthy of consideration.’ And Majority Leader Tom DeLay is co-sponsoring the bill, and has said: ‘It is high time the debate about the flat tax and a national consumption tax moved out of Washington think tanks and into American living rooms. That's why I have signedon to Congressman John Linder's proposal to scrap the current tax code altogether and replace it with a national sales tax.’

“The Republican plan would make it harder for middleclass families to make ends meet. A national sales tax would undermine the American value of prosperity. For example, cars that cost $20,000 would cost an additional $6,000 under this proposal. Just wait until the car dealers hear about this proposal. Prescription drugs that cost $100 would now cost $130. New homes, insurance premiums, brokerage fees, and gasoline would all be heavily taxed to replace revenue brought in by the current tax system.

“It would wipe out our system of progressive taxation. A national sales tax would undermine the American value of fairness.

“The American people should be aware that the Republicans’ primary tax agenda is a new national sales tax.”

The Republican Plan to Raise Taxes on the Middle Class

All over the country, middle class Americans are being squeezed byRepublican policies that have lost 1.7 million private sector jobs; allowed the price of health care, education, and gas to skyrocket; and created record deficits. Now Republicans are proposing a new national sales tax that would increase taxes for the typical middle class by about 50 percent. Democrats know that approach is wrong. Instead of raising taxes on the middle class, Democrats have pledged to promote prosperity and fairness by enacting middle class tax relief, creating new jobs, and eliminating tax loopholes so all Americans pay their fair share.

GOP SALES TAX HIKES A FAMILY’S TAX BURDEN BY 50 PERCENT

The new GOP national sales tax would replace all personal and corporate income taxes, Social Security, Medicare, and payroll taxes, and gift and estate taxes with a new national sales tax on goods like groceries, clothing, new home sales and apartment rents, and health care services. This new GOP tax would be applied on top of existing state sales taxes. This proposal would increase taxes by about $3,200 a year for 80 percent of taxpayers, and potentially more for some families.

MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES SQUEEZED AGAIN

Families with children. Families with children are hit the hardest, as this proposal would eliminate all the current law tax benefits for these families, including the child tax credit. A middle class family with four children with a combined income of $65,000 would face an increase of more than $5,000 in their tax liability.

New homeowners. The Republican tax hike proposal would eliminate the tax deduction that families get on their home mortgages and apply this new sales percent tax to the cost of a home. If a family buys a new house listed for $150,000, the new tax brings the actual purchase price to $195,000.

Jump in property taxes. The Republican sales tax hike would require states to send an additional $300 billion to the federal government in sales taxes – a tax increase that states would immediately pass on to residents. Arkansas, Delaware, Kentucky, Hawaii, and New Jersey could all see property tax increases higher than 400 percent. The lowest state property tax hike possible – in New Hampshire – would still be more than 70 percent.

Gas and electricity. The average family would pay an additional 60 cents a gallon for gasoline – a new tax that will hit families in rural areas particularly hard. Families with large home heating or cooling bills also will be harmed.

SENIORS FACE NEW TAXES

Beneficiaries pay twice for Social Security and pension benefits. Most Social Security benefits and a portion of pension payments are exempt from income tax. But this proposal requires seniors to pay the new sales tax – meaning that seniors are now being taxed twice for their Social Security, once when they pay the payroll taxes and again when they pay the sales taxes.

Threaten Solvency of the Medicare Trust Fund. Medicare would be required to pay the new sales tax as well, forcing the program into insolvency in five years. If this proposal were enacted, Medicare would run out of funds in 2009.

Undermines pension coverage. The new GOP sales tax hike would reduce the incentives employers currently get for offering their employees a pension plan. The American Academy of Actuaries has concluded that “pension plans would quickly diminish in number and size and gradually disappear” if a consumption tax, such as the national sales tax were enacted as a substitute to the current income tax.

From The National Retail Federation:

http://www.nrf.com/content/default.asp?folder=press/release2005&file=NRST-comments.htm&bhfv=2&bhqs=1

Retailers File Comments Urging Rejection of Consumption Tax

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 13, 2005 - The National Retail Federation today announced that it has filed comments with the President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform urging the panel to reject economically risky proposals to replace the nation's income tax system with a consumption tax or to add a new consumption tax on top of existing taxes.

"The United States should not experiment with a brand new tax system that will put our economic future at risk," NRF said. "It is better to engage in substantial reforms of the income tax that are designed to eliminate some of the major complications in the current Internal Revenue Code and stimulate economic growth without causing major economic dislocation."

NRF's remarks came in response to proposals for tax reform that were presented to the Advisory Panel during a series of hearings this spring. The panel asked for public comments on the proposals last month.

NRF on Friday submitted a detailed statement outlining the dangers of various consumption tax proposals. The statement addressed the National Retail Sales Tax proposed by Representative John Linder, R-Va., plans for a Value Added Tax similar to those used in Europe, and other consumption tax proposals.

The NRF statement cited a study commissioned by NRF in 2000 that found that a national sales tax would bring a three-year decline in the economy, a four-year decline in employment and an eight-year decline in consumer spending. The study showed that similar results could be expected if other types of consumption taxes were enacted to replace the current system.

NRF argued that consumption taxes are inherently regressive because low-income families spend virtually their entire incomes while wealthier families have larger percentages of unspent income that would go untaxed.

NRF particularly urged the Advisory Panel to reject proposals to maintain the current tax system while adding a VAT or other new tax that would be used to pay for programs such as Social Security or health care. Doing so would amount to a tax increase rather than tax reform and would provide lawmakers with "a money machine" to finance increases in government spending, NRF said.

From Roth & Co:

http://www.rothcpa.com/archives/cat_tax_reform.php

June 02, 2005
I DON'T THINK HE LIKES THE 'FAIR' TAX

The "Fair Tax," a proposal for a national retail sales tax, has gotten some attention in the tax reform debate. Joseph Thorndike, a columnist for Tax Analysts, isn't quite sold on it:

First, though, we have to sort through an embarrassment of riches: How can we identify the worst quality of a tax that has so many? As numerous critics have pointed out, the Fair Tax would raise too little revenue and prompt too much evasion. Its popularity depends on unreasonable assumptions and misleading descriptions. It would never work as advertised -- a fact that many of its supporters either choose to ignore or secretly celebrate.

But other than that, maybe he likes it.

WHAT IS THE REAL RATE?

Mr. Thorndike points out that the 23% rate touted by Fair Tax supporters is misleading, because it is a "tax inclusive" rate. The 6% tax rate we Polk Countians are accustomed to is "tax exclusive" - it isn't included in the sales tax rate.

Example:

Wally buys a new computer for $1,000, and he pays $60 in sales tax. His "tax exclusive" rate is 6%. His "tax inclusive rate" is 5.66% (60/1060 = 5.66%).

If you compute the "Fair Tax" the way we are used to talking about sales tax rates - tax exclusive - it will apply at a 30% rate. That's a real difference.

Perhaps we are biased, being income tax consultants, but the Fair Tax seems to have some huge practical problems. Two come immediately to mind.

WHEN RATES GET TOO HIGH, PEOPLE CHEAT

Sales taxes are only likely to work if rates are low enough to not interfere with commerce. When combined with state and local taxes, the Fair Tax would burden every trip to Git 'n Go with a 36% or higher surcharge. This is high enough to push many transactions into the E-bay economy.

HIGH SALES TAX RATES THREATEN BUSINESSES THAT COLLECT SALES TAXES

Taxpayers going through their first sales tax audit are astounded at how big the assessments can be. They also know that they aren't as simple as many folks believe. While income taxes are only a problem to the extent your business is profitable, sales taxes apply even when you are losing money, and they apply based on gross receipts - a much larger base than taxable income.

Because sales taxes are computed on a big base, a small error in determining what transactions are subject to tax can lead to a stiff assessment over three years, even at a "low" 6% rate. At a 36% rate, even little errors would be ruinous.

FAIR TAX PROSPECTS?

Mr. Thorndike doesn't think the Fair Tax will survive the tax reform process:

And the winner of this year's prize for Worst Idea in a Serious Public Policy Debate: the Fair Tax. In all likelihood, this plan for a national retail sales tax has already exhausted its 15 minutes of fame. Sometime later this summer, President Bush's commission on federal tax reform will probably put it out of its misery.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:12 AM
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6. Yes opportunity has been handed on a silver platter to Democrats
Listen to the wind blow......
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:45 AM
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8. I have let go of that allusion of "the Democratic party's ability"
Getting them clues a couple years ago from people of the likes of YOU.

I thank you for that and tell you it all starts with US, the people, the government is a hindrance and a taxing appendage that takes much more than it ever gives back. I look not to them for help
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:22 AM
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3. Unfortunately even powerful Katrina may not prevent
two shrub SCOTUS appointments that will ensure that the Republican agenda will linger long after he's gone.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:00 AM
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5. Dear Mr. Clift: Please take off your rose colored glasses
The media is furiously spinning this disaster away from the BADministration.

The BADministration is spending most of its time these days producing PR to cover its ass.

The RWadio pundits are hammering as furiously as ever on libruls and minorities, and all Bush-Haters.

A few in congress have been speaking. The RWingers in charge have countered with more Draconian measures

Shrub is set now to put two fascists on the SCOTUS instead of one.


We have seen that genocide, racism and classism are alive and well, thriving like never before, right here in America. We have seen Americans treated like animals on our TV screens. And the Republicans are STILL able to push through their Draconian, feudalising legislation with nary a blip on the radar.

No, I do not think the political pendulum is done with its rightward swing, Mr. Clift. A lot more people from white, Christian, middle class Midwestern America are going to have to suffer before any real change comes about.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:21 AM
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7. You can't be serious.
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 09:11 AM by ContraBass Black
As with other disasters, the Republican agenda is emboldened, not curtailed.

"Ground Control to Ms. Clift, Ground Control to Ms. Clift,..."
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:50 AM
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9. Whoah. She buried the lead here
"For believers in the grand unified theory of conspiracy, Allbaugh now lobbies FEMA on behalf of Halliburton, the administration’s gravy train of choice."

I'm not usually a believer in a "grand unified theory of conspiracy" but that one stands out like a massive indictment of cronyism and corruption that anyone can relate to.

The former head of FEMA pushes for an incompetant buddy to head an agency that the former FEMA head then will be lobbying for Halliburton?

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