New Newsweek Poll: Bush Approval 38% - record low.

[Pirate Smile]

52% of Americans don't trust Bush in a crisis.

Was race a factor:
Whites - yes 31%
Nonwhites - yes - 65%

Bush's Approval for Terrorism and Homeland Security -
Approval 46%
Disapproval 48%.

Are you satisfied with the direction the Country is headed:
Satisfied 28%
Dissatisfied 66%

If Congressional Elections were held today, who do you lean toward voting for:
Democrats 50%
Republicans 38%

Absolutely Dismal ##'s for Bush and the GOP.

As reported on MSNBC.

I posted this in LBN also. No link on the MSNBC/Newsweek website yet.

[Zuni]

1. his numbers are crashing like Nixon's in '73

[MADem]

31. It feels the same

Nixon was more articulate, but the fortress mentality, denial in the face of plain, bald facts and unwillingness to acknowledge and admit error is the same.

And the creepy similarity between Scooter/Karl and Haldeman/Erlichman and Ron Zeigler~Scotty McClellan stands out as well.

It's all just a little bit of history repeating....?????

[tsuki]

43. I really think he's got Nixon beat. eom

[Rhiannon12866]

44. And the same thing has to happen as happened with Nixon.

We've always disliked Bush*, but just can't seem to get rid of the bastard. As what happened with Nixon, and LBJ, before him, he's become a liability to his own party, so they have to dump him. I was hoping for this before the election, but the dimwits were just too dim to get it. I hope that they do it now.:-(

[MADem]

45. To be fair to LBJ, he took himself out of the game

"Ah shell nawt seek, an' ah will not accept, your nomination as Preseedent of the Yew-nighted States..."

The war killed him. On the one hand, he wanted out, on the other, he did not want to be the first President to back out without a win or at least a tie. He went back to his ranch, grew his hair to his shoulders, and died.

[Rhiannon12866]

47. According to Carl Bernstein, the party dumped him

But I remember this well, especially what he said, and when he died, long before his time. I was way too young to vote, back then, but it still made me very sad...:-(

[MADem]

48. Carl loves to interpret history according to his own personal vision

As I am sure Nora Ephron would agree!! (Read HEARTBURN, or get the movie--Jack Nicholson is CARL, thinly disguised...a total, fucking bastard!).

LBJ was the head of the party, if he were hellbent on running again, no one would have stopped him--he had years of practice strongarming his friends and foes as Master of the Senate (great book, BTW, by Caro) and he knew where ALL the bodies were buried. He may not have won, but who knows?? Nixon probably would not have been the GOP candidate had he stayed in the race...

I think the life was just sucked out of LBJ. It is a shame he could not have conceived of an exit strategy, but back in those days, it simply was not done--you'd wear white after Labor Day before you would bow out of a bad war...interesting how times change.

When I think of LBJ, I like to think of the Great Society, the Civil Rights work, the good stuff he did, not that brutal failure of a war that tore us to shreds for all those years. At least he had the decency to feel awful about it, so despite his crusty exterior, he was not without a soul...

[Rhiannon12866]

50. Thank you for the information

And I grew up respecting Carl Bernstein, despite having Freeper parents, but I sure appreciate your Nora Ephron reference...:D

And I can see exactly what you say. The life was truly sucked out of this great man. And there was a lot of life there.;(

And I do know that he was a mover and a shaker and a real controller of what went on and how. Before my time, but I'm a good history student. I have always believed that LBJ had enormous heart, unlike the current administration, who don't even have a conscience. I think the war broke LBJ, but he still managed to accomplish so much. And I am thinking especially of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which turned the blue South red, even to this day, took so much courage. And I've never seen the movie, but I should and I will. And I do love Jack Nicholson. A reach, but a brilliant choice, nonetheless.:D

Thank you.
Rhiannon:hug:

[MADem]

52. I just think a man should be a gentleman

...and Carl was not one. Good reporter, but not a nice individual. He suffers from an excess of hubris, with a side dish of infidelity. Of course, had he not been a Watergate reporter, I doubt he would have gotten as much play as he did, frankly--he's no matinee idol.

I like history, too--I just wish more of our leaders would learn from it!!

Meryl Streep plays Nora in the film--it really is a fine film all round. You have to remind yourself that it isn't fiction, totally...because there will be moments when you'll shake your head and say "Oh, NO, he DIDN'T!"

[babylonsister]

2. Dag nabbit, ya beat me to it!

But this statistic does bear repeating... :)

[Spazito]

3. I think we can safely say that the infamous 'tipping point' has arrived

finally.

[KoKo]

51. BUT...look at this ...this is what ROVE WILL SEE!

Americans are still too close on Chertoff's Homeland Security..almost evenly divided. YET..HOMELAND SECURITY is the reason Katrina has sunk Bush's polls. This is very bizarre. How can this number be what it is?
Rove and Bushies and their Think Tanks will look at THIS NUMBER! Means an invasion of Iran/Syria or other target will get their poll numbers back on to. To me, this is a huge disconnect which may mean that these low polls for Bush are just reflecting disapproval for Katrina and not his whole CRAP/STOLEN P-Residency and the Halliburton, etc. Corruption and lies. I don't want a "fake out" here....where Bush will gain if he invades another country...or does a CIA/FBI/Negroponte Terrorist Attack where he and his Think Tanks and Christian Coalition can wipe out Katrina!

Look at this sampling.. Isn't it scary?

Bush's Approval for Terrorism and Homeland Security -
Approval 46%
Disapproval 48%.

[MaineDem]

4. All a year too late

Can you imagine if...

[tinfoilinfor2005]

5. I think we ain't seen nothing yet, as the disaster and the

gaffes of this administration continue. And as long as the msm maintains it's pressure for truth.

[Catfight]

6. PLEASE STAY THE COURSE repugs....it can only get WORSE!

I'm lovin' it!

[tedoll78]

8. That's sad. I read the title of your post and thought it said..

"STAY THE CORPSE."

[oncall]

9. I don't think you are saying that you want to see misery

and a senseless war continue. If you are, then we have to look at what we are really hoping for. Of course we want Bushco out of power, but at whose expense?

[MADem]

32. No, we want the media to COVER the misery and the senseless war

It has been far too long that we have turned on our tellys and gotten nothing but WH press releases disguised as news.

In order to make an omelette, the media has to bust open a few eggs. They are doing that, at last. Took them long enough!

[oncall]

37. We absolutely want the media to cover the war.

Maybe they should accurately report all the misery and tragedies? If that was done, there would be more protests against this crime. All I am saying is that who wants Bushco to succeed-nobody here. But, if we hope for the Republicans to continue, we will keep seeing the same mistakes over and over again. These mistakes cost innocent lives and undo hardships on others. So that is why I say, "At whose expense do we want this mess to continue?". Our best hope is 2006 elections. 50% is not enough. We can count on the Republicans to steal that one as well if all we have is 50% approval.

[Debs]

49. I think

It more accurate to say the media has to SHOW the eggs already busted. Of course I dont want to see MORE misery OR the senseless war continue. That isnt the point, there IS misery AND the war IS continuing. IF the Media chooses to continue to show it instead of going back into ignore the tragedy mode, That is the best chance we have of stopping the senseless war and avoiding more misery

[Steely_Dan]

7. But...

...will it actually translate into this idiot being removed from office. Everytime I think that this is the turning point, I'm proven wrong. Wheat will it take???

-Paige

[kestrel91316]

10. Hurry up, Fitz! Now's the time to strike.

[AndyTiedye]

23. And If He Doesn't...

...then you can expect all of the MSM to fall right back into line.

Nothing less than a Karl Rove frog-march will do!

[Stinky The Clown]

11. Thorns exist among these roses

If Congressional Elections were held today, who do you lean toward voting for:
Democrats 50%
Republicans 38%

That ain't good, folks. Idiot son is losing, but we ain't winnin'. We got lotsa work to do. We need to be the inverse of his numbers. Hopefully having our people out there speaking our truth to his (former) power will make a change. But we **must** start seeing our numbers go up or all that's happened is we've lost as he's lost.

The other thing I take away from that number is that the drop in his polls may well be temporary. Gas and Katrina. Get them off the news in a week or three and they could go back up. And how much longer can Katrina be the lead story? Another week? Not much longer than that.

After that, if no other bad news comes out, then he will likley go up.

I'd be far less pessimistic if our number were higher than a flat (and sad) 50%.

[flpoljunkie]

12. Dems are actually way up. Last poll had them even with the Rethugs.

Now what they need to do is scream about how the victims of Katrina will be further victimized with the Rethug written bankruptcy bill (Feingold has introduced a bill to exempt hurricane victims), filibuster Frist's plan to make Bush's "tax cuts for fat cats" permanent, block any repeal of the estate tax, and demand that Joe Allbaugh's incompetent crony "Brownie" be removed as FEMA head. FEMA will be doling out the $62 billions dollars appropriated by Congress for Katrina rescue, cleanup, rebuilding.

This will be a good start for my party.

[flpoljunkie]

15. Irony is we are far more likely to have mad cow disease outbreak here.

We are still feeding calves improperly--something which the Europeans stopped after their outbreak. The Department of Agriculture, under Dubya, has failed us. Surprise, surprise, they have put profits over people.

[oncall]

13. I agree with you

We can blog all we want, but unless we can get away from our computers and into the streets, not much is going to change.

[Pirate Smile]

18. I think that is actually a very significant gap. Before this disaster, I

believe the parties were almost even in that type of question.

While I'm also concerned about whether it will be temporary or not, I think this should be a turning point in how people view government. Gingrich also made this point (which is scary) as is stated in a Op-ed by David Ignatius:

"Now listen to what Gingrich has to say about "changing the playbook" after Katrina. His comments are drawn from two memos he has circulated to Republican leaders since the storm hit and from a conversation we had this week exploring some of his ideas.

Gingrich argues that the values debate that has divided America so sharply during the past decade is over. There's a broad consensus about most issues, and anyway people realize that the country's big problems aren't about morality but performance. "We're not in a values fight now but over whether the system is working," Gingrich told me. "The issue is delivery." And that's true at every level -- city, state and federal."

-snip-
This is the moment for the Party of Performance to take center stage. The breakdown in public life was obvious before Katrina. We have a government that can't control its borders, can't find a viable strategy for its war in Iraq, can't organize the key agencies to address the terrorism problems it has been trumpeting. The yearning in the country for something different has been palpable this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/08/AR2005090801557.html

There is reason for Hope.

[electropop]

20. This is the moment for the Party of Performance to take center stage.

Exactly, Newt Gangrene! Please step aside as the Democrats take center stage.

[electropop]

19. Next story: Fitzgerald indictments.

Just in time, too. And hey, 50/38 is damned good considering how asleep Amurika has been. They've screwed the pooch.

[yojon]

41. My fear is that in all the key races

the repugs will 'win' 51% > 49%.

[AX10]

42. Iraq and the Economy.

The economy is slowing down (housing) and high gas prices this winter will be a big problem. Another recession is possible next year.

[katinmn]

14. they must have called only Repukes

[Halliburton]

16. Fitz better deliver the death blow!

Judy's squirming to get out of jail, so hopefully he can deliver the deathblow soon.

[BlueJac]

17. Keep up the good work GW!!

[blue neen]

21. "Hey let's do the limbo rock..."

"da, da, da, da, da, da, daaa...How LOW can you go?"


The Bush approval numbers go lower and lower and will soon be in the cellar where his morals and ethics have been all along.

"da, da, da, da, da, da, da."

[cliss]

22. Unbelievable.

The worst statistic, in my opinion, is the 3rd one:

"Are you satisfied with the direction the country is headed?"

NO: 66%.

This is amazing. This is actually much more serious than Bush's popularity, because this is supposedly the planning, or the direction the administration is going in. And if you think about it, Bush campaigned about mostly SECURITY, making Americans feel safe, 9/11, terra terrurist threat, better be afraid, etc etc.

That was the ONE thing that Americans resonated with, and why he did get a large number of votes.

BUSH = F-

[Tom Joad]

24. Disturbing that Bush disapproval rating only 60%....need to reach out

Gotta keep reaching out to people and telling them what this administration is doing to us.

Tell them also that the Democrats who support Bush policies, even in milder form, deserve the same loathing as Bushites.

Stop Funding this war, bring all troops home, no more occupations!

[tinrobot]

25. The repugs would be smart to impeach

It would be the only way they could save their own hides.

[Clarkie1]

26. The most important numbers in the poll are these...

Are you satisfied with the direction the Country is headed?

Satisfied 28%
Dissatisfied 66%

These numbers reflect not just a dissatifaction with Bush (which has become greater), but a wider dissatifaction with politicians and government across the board. This hurts Republicans more than Democrats, because Republicanns are the party in power.

To take advantage of this, Democrats need to offer bold new leaders with vision and a true change of direction for America in the 21st century, not just politics and politicians as usual.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. bingo! precisely the point

it will take a news cycle or so, but pretty soon the GOPers in office will start to do the GOPer shuffle, distancing themselves from the White House Whores and spin masters. Republican'ts will not go down with the listing ship. Those rats will start to abandon it soon.

If the Democrats do not show some spine now, watch for a viable third party to arise out of the ashes of both parties.

[corkhead]

28. "Brownie" is to FEMA what the Chimperor is to our country

the new definition of the Peter Principle: Promoted BEYOND ones level of incompetence.

[Triana]

29. Link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9279799/

[Pirate Smile]

30. That is the AP poll - it gives Bush a 39% approval rating. Newsweek's poll

is not up yet.

"Poll: Bush approval dips below 40 percent
AP survey: Lowest rating yet as president criticized over gas prices, Katrina

WASHINGTON - President Bush's job approval has dipped below 40 percent for the first time in the AP-Ipsos poll, reflecting widespread doubts about his handling of gasoline prices and the response to Hurricane Katrina.

Nearly four years after Bush's job approval soared into the 80s after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Bush was at 39 percent job approval in an AP-Ipsos poll taken this week. That's the lowest since the the poll was started in December 2003.

The public's view of the nation's direction has grown increasingly negative as well, with nearly two-thirds now saying the country is heading down the wrong track.

"As a nation, we are pretty well stretched," said Barry Allen, a political independent from Reed City, Mich. "I approve of some of the things the president has done, and disapprove of others. Overall, I disapprove."'

[Pirate Smile]

38. Here it is: "Eye of the Political Storm"

Eye of the Political Storm

A new NEWSWEEK poll suggests President Bush could become Katrina's next casualty.

WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Marcus Mabry
Newsweek
Updated: 1:31 p.m. ET Sept. 10, 2005

Sept. 10, 2005 - Hurricane Katrina claimed her first political casualty Friday. Michael Brown, the head of FEMA, the federal disaster readiness and response agency, was sidelined from the largest disaster relief project in the nation's history. Brown was recalled to Washington by his boss, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. But a new NEWSWEEK Poll suggests the post-Katrina political storm may just be rising. And her ultimate casualty could be President George W. Bush.

In Katrina's wake, the president's popularity and job-approval ratings have dropped across the board. Only 38 percent of Americans approve of the way Bush is doing his job overall, a record-low for this president in the NEWSWEEK poll. (Fifty-five percent of Americans disapprove of his overall job performance.) And only 28 percent of Americans say they are "satisfied with the way things are going" in the country, down from 36 percent in August and 46 percent in December, after the president's re-election. This is another record low and two points below the satisfaction level recorded immediately after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal came to light. Fully two-thirds of Americans are not satisfied with the direction of the country.

But Katrina's most costly impact could be a loss of faith in government generally, and the president, in particular. A majority of Americans (57 percent) say "government's slow response to what happened in New Orleans" has made them lose confidence in government's ability to deal with another major natural disaster. Forty-seven percent say it has made them lose confidence in the government's ability to prevent another terrorist attack like 9/11, but 50 percent say is has not. (Note: our question asked about "government" in general, so we cannot say whether respondents meant state, local, federal or a combo of any of the three.)

More critical to President Bush and the GOP's future as the nation's majority party: most Americans, 52 percent, say they do not trust the president "to make the right decisions during a domestic crisis" (45 percent do). The numbers are exactly the same when the subject is trust of the president to make the right decisions during an international crisis.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280375/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/

[Pirate Smile]

39. Bush's personal rating have also tumbled.

"The Katrina effect is evident in how Americans rate the president personally. In every category, the view of the president is at all-time lows for the NEWSWEEK poll. Only 49 percent of Americans now believe the president has strong leadership qualities. The same percentage of registered voters feel that way, 49 percent—down from 63 percent the week before Bush’s reelection. Only 42 percent of Americans believe the president cares about people like them; 44 percent of registered voters feel that way—down from 50 percent the week before the election. And only 49 percent of Americans and the same percentage of registered voters believe Bush is intelligent and well-informed—down from 59 percent before the election. "

[MADem]

46. Ya gotta wonder what took those idiots so long to see the obvious nt

[Arugula Latte]

33. The terrorism & security number is also key

I don't know if he's ever had a net negative rating on that. That was his ONLY perceived strength, and it's gone. :toast:

[mrcheerful]

34. The real teflon kid

Don't get your hopes up to much your forgetting the religious right being fickle and easy to use scare tactics on. All Gw needs to do is get Roe vs Wade overturned in the next 3 years and the GOP will be back on top.

[DarienComp]

35. mmmm, delicious poll.

I especially like the last one. Dem 50%, Rep 38%.

[senseandsensibility]

36. kick

Please keep kicked. These poll numbers are an accurate measure of this moment in time. I prefer them to vague assurances from some that * is going down, etc. True, they're not infallible, but they are based on science. We need to rejoice in the fact that * is unpopular. Isn't that what we want? And we need to make sure that all DUers know about the numbers because they're a morale booster. So please keep kicked.:kick:

[faithnotgreed]

40. i took nbc/wsj poll yesterday which was interesting

quite extensive covering all topics

it was my first national poll and look forward to seeing the results esp considering the right slant of those 2 outfits
but it seemed a pretty good poll even though there were some questions i could do without the wording (should us leave iraq since there have now been elections there)

[gasperc]

53. terrorism approval below 50% AND less than dissapproval

this is very, very significant, what kind of hell is Rove setting us up for?

[win_in_06]

54. Too Bad we won't face him in another election.

We would devastate him.