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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:14 PM
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Just so people know...
My Poli Sci teacher said Nixon's approval ratings were at 17% shortly before his resignation -according to him, that was the latest gallup poll on his approval.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:20 PM
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1. According to Wikipedia Nixon's approval fell to 25%
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:20 PM
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2. I also get about 25% from this in-depth analysis:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:22 PM
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3. Never went down that far
What's really odd to recall is that a lot of people lamented Nixon's resigning and still believed he should "tough it out."

Those were strange days, too, but these are far worse.

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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:29 PM
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4. 17 is pretty low but yeah, he's probably wrong on that
I'll look it up myself pretty quick.

How low do you think Bush's approval will go before he resigns or finishes the term?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:40 PM
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5. Sinking ship syndrome. Nixon capsized.
You can't really count Nixon's low approval ratings after it became apparent he was guilty of criminal activity. Had the Congress been as willing to turn a blind eye to Nixon's petty crimes as the current Congress is to turn a blind eye to Bush's utter malfeasance, Nixon's approval ratings would have been better than Junior's.

If the jig is ever up on Bush (say he is named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Plame leak or something), there will be a rush to abandon him and a huge approval swing against him. The freepers are with him now because they are ignorant and craven. They will abandon Bush, but only for ignorant, craven reasons.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:56 PM
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6. I heard Nixon fired the Special Prosecutors
...Once they brought out indictments against his administration? Bush has the authority to fire Fitzgerald if he comes out with indictments, but do you think he will? It'll probably have a major affect on his approval -not that that's been stopping him from making really bad looking PR decisions...
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:42 PM
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7. The Saturday Night Massacre
I was at the Old Executive Office building that evening with a friend who was a senior White House advisor at the time. We saw Eliot Richardson and William Ruckelshaus as they left, and we had no idea what had happened.

Amazing. Sam Ervin was entering the premises in a small black Cadillac sedan, and his window was down - he was sitting in the back. He waved to us as they passed. I still can't figure out what he was doing there that night. I have this feeling Kissinger was involved somehow.

I think Fuckface Bush can do whatever the hell he wants and he'll get away with it. There is no general sense of outrage out there and there is no Democrat with a strong enough spine to make the necessary screams of injustice right now.

For whatever reasons, these bastards get away with everything, and I simply do not understand it.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:00 PM
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8. As it seems
The media SEEMS to be growing a backbone -though we speculate how long this will last, and rightfully so, his approval ratings are dropping pretty quickly as he starts losing support from his base. Let's just hope that anything involving Fitzgerald and the investigation is nothing but bad news for Bush, and that the MSM keeps it's spine.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM
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9. Fitzgerald is untouchable...
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM by Independent_Liberal
He's a special independent counsel. Kinda like Ken Starr. The President or Attorney General have no legal authority to remove him. No way they can go Saturday Night Massacre on his ass!
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:32 PM
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10. oh please, he is not protected
Anything can happen to him personally or professionally. He better be covering his butt with whatever he has right now
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:10 PM
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11. he's a special prosecutor, not independent counsel.
An independent counsel is appointed by the attorney general after pressure from Congress. That pressure never came, and he has no more protection than those guys Nixon fired.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:01 PM
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12. Here's why Fitzgerald is untouchable...
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:40 PM
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13. He wasn't hired by Congress, he was hired by the President,
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 08:41 PM by Tiggeroshii
through the attorney General, thus Bush can fire him whenever he thinks Fitzgerald is getting too close or starts subpoenaing people.
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