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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:54 PM
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So...I just bought "Too Legit to Quit" on iTunes....
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 06:01 PM by BullGooseLoony
Who do you think'll get the royalties on that?

On edit: Don't mind me. Fun stuff pours out of the Lounge every once in awhile.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:00 PM
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1. This oughta be in...uh...The Lounge.
I'm embarassed.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:07 PM
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2. kick
:rofl:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:11 PM
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3. Thanks.
I was actually going to keep kicking it until the mods took care of it. :P

It's all in good fun.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:17 PM
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4. And, of course, we can ALL see how this relates to the
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 06:17 PM by BullGooseLoony
extremely difficult problems presented to our party today.

I'm expecting to see some solutions posted here. AND results.


DEMOCRATS IN 2006, BABY!!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:25 PM
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5. Mods, if you would please move this to the Lounge,
I would be very appreciative.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:30 PM
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6. whatever you did
i'm against it. this is absurd.

:hi:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:32 PM
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7. LOL I dunno what's going on here.
It's funny, though, while it lasts.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:44 PM
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9. i think the mods here
just wanna embarass you :P
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:46 PM
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10. I hear ya.
:)

It's alright. I'm pretty tough.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:41 PM
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8. Mods...if you would please, please move this to the Lounge.
Thanks! :)
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:29 PM
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11. the song is obviously subtle propaganda in reference to Brownie's quitting
Now, I've never heard it, and nevermind that I'm pretty sure it was written before Bush II ever even got elected--those are all minor details intended to trip you up.

Or it COULD be in reference to Kerry's failure to adequately pursue allegations of voter fraud--he was too legit, but he quit, which he shouldn't have done...and that makes him not legit anymore.

In short, BullGooseLoony, you're a bad Democrat. :spank:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:49 PM
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15. "You gotta go deeper."
:P
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:19 PM
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12. New forum idea?
GD:Hammer!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:27 PM
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13. Alright, so here's what needs to be done in 2006. My manifesto:
I should at least take a couple of hours on this, if I'm going to make it my manifesto, but I won't. So don't expect quality.

So let's get right into it.

There are four- COUNT THEM: FOUR!!- Democrats that have been effective in the past three years. They are, in my opined order of significance: Howard Dean, the Godfather; Al Gore, the most intelligent, the soothsayer and the farsighted, the most experienced, but just not the most courageous- he was able to take advantage of his hiatus; Wesley Clark, the GENERAL- courage and common sense come so easy for him, but lacking the resume as an elected official, and in some ways credibility; and Paul Hackett, the Maverick, the learned newcomer, the fresh face, the hope, the lack of power.

These are the four Democrats with a real future. These are the four Democrats who *****know what they're doing*****.

Everyone else...and I mean *everyone*- is irrelevant for one reason, or another. You all know these reasons. Whether it's COWARDICE on the one side, or a simple lack of RATIONALITY (or "presence," in Feingold's case) on the other, they're all finished for the *top* job. That's not to say that others aren't in the running for 2006 Congress, which IS most important, right now, because we have to get *rid* of these assholes, ASAP. The only way to pressure them in the meantime is through Congress. ****Congress is always the battlefield.**** However, *none* of these other Democrats have gotten "it" in such a way as to be able to use them as an *example* for our 2006 candidates. They've all either wussed out, unwilling to take on the Bush administration, and thus compromising their integrity, or they've been lashing out blindly in such a way that makes using them essentially suicidal. The kamikaze stuff works every once in awhile playing dice, or poker, but it doesn't work in politics, short of catastrophe (which actually may be coming- the leftists are gaining credibility! Ha ha! I'm serious.).

Except for Teddy Kennedy. He's the fifth Beatle, so to speak. But he's just "too old." The man has been the strongest, most SOLID leadership in our party, and I think we could just maybe owe everything to him, if we disregard those who take up the slack.

But there has been so much back and forth on this site between the DLC and the "far left." The truth is that neither are where victory lies for the Democratic Party. Both the DLC and the "far left" have something that the other lacks, both in weakness and in strength. The "far left" has the courage that is so DESPERATELY needed by our party- the most IMPORTANT THING needed by our party right now. But they don't have the credibility, because they say stupid shit sometimes (Sorry, Kooch! Still love ya!). The "Department of Peace" stuff. Will never work, folks, and in any case *peace is standing orders* for MODERATE liberals. Likewise, the DLC has even LESS credibility, because seemingly no *matter WHAT the fucking neocons say,* they can't find the cobbles to argue!!!! The neocons could start grumbling about how it might be a good idea to bring back slavery (and they basically ARE doing so with their classist philosophy), but the DLCers would just sit back and say, well, hey, "Let's not anger America!" Don't want to do that. This despite the fact that the one thing that anyone who is politically astute has learned in the last three or fours years is that LEADERSHIP wins in this environment. If you back down, you lose. You lose big. Thus, the DLC track record of LOSING, AND LOSING, AND LOSING. They refuse to take a stand. They cashed in our party's chips for their *own* selfish political careers by triangulating instead of sewing the seeds, through leadership, for the future, and trying to move the country in a certain direction. I have NO respect for that. DLCers, take a tip from the warriors on the "far left." You have no idea what you're doing, psychologically. No one will vote for you after we've been attacked by terrorists- no matter *who* was ultimately behind it. You can't even stand up to your own countrymen (yes, the people see through it all). Take your reason and hitch up your skirts to stand up for what is RIGHT!!!!! YOU are responsible for ALL OF THIS BULLSHIT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW. YOU refused to give opposition, and the Republicans ran roughshod over you and took the entire federal government. Thanks a helluva lot. A helluva lot.

Now- What do we have to SOLVE this?

Well, to begin with, we had, and still have (entrance music): HOWARD DEAN. This man was the first Democrat to truly publicly see and react to the dynamic that was being exhibited in 2002. NSMA, I love you, but I have to use the word (and I've gone way out of my way before to avoid it): The Democrats were treated like the Republicans' BITCHES in the 2002 election (ALL DUE RESPECT- I'll donate to NOW, if you request it). There was nowhere to run. But some tried to run anyway, instead of holding their ground and their integrity. They didn't think about the future, they didn't think about leadership. But Howard Dean did, while the rest were mowed down from behind.

Where the FUCK was the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party??? I'll tell ya- they were the ones with the back of their shirts ripped up and the funny haircuts.

After they ran like gophers, they hid in their holes until the end of 2003. Then, when our party's LEADER *took* the lead, they came out and STABBED HIM IN THE BACK, even using their media influence to pour it on as hard as they could. I SAW the editorial in the NY Daily News *before* the scream, just before New Years. I saw it, and I know *exactly* where it came from. No leadership. No thought to the future. And look at us now. We ALL know what happened. Revenge of the cowards. FUCK YOU ALL. You KNOW who we'd have as President RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! Pieces of shit.

Then Al Gore. This man has been AMAZING for the past two years. Anyone who has not read or seen ALL of his speeches for Moveon.org, you are missing REQUIRED READING for the Democratic Party. This man had greater leadership than ANY Democrat did, with his vision, since the invasion of Iraq. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ OR SEEN THESE SPEECHES (3 or 4, I believe), YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO- I AM NOT EXAGGERATING. ALL of them. He spelled it all out- so, so very clearly. It was easy for him to do, admittedly, not holding office. But he did. He used no uncertain terms- and somehow managed to stay focused. He never crossed the line. He kept to the facts, and laid out ***brutal indictments.*** BETTER THAN MICHAEL MOORE. And, with his resume, and his sense of where our country is right now, he is the natural choice for our presidential nominee in 2008. Al Gore has changed. He has, in my opinion (if he can keep up what he's been doing), become Superman. He's the clear choice for the Democratic Party in 2008. Regardless of NOLA. Nothing.

Then, speaking of 2008, I come to my Democratic brothers, the Wesley Clark supporters. Wesley Clark has been equally strong in principle, equally poised, and equally poignant in so many ways, compared to Dean and Gore, in the last two years, and has perhaps exceeded the other two, at times. This is a man who, when people listen to him, makes ears immediately perk up and pupils expand, because people know that they're dealing with someone who has experience in foreign affairs, a man with confidence in himself, a man who is, while loyal to his country, also quite sure of his own principles. Clark is a presidential man, a true leader, and a strong advocate of Democratic principles. I, just myself, had doubts about him to begin with (while he was battling with Dean in my mind for my support for the Democratic nomination- he was my 2nd). But Clark has proved himself true, beyond doubt, since then. Some of the insight that I've seen from him has been genius, and **couldn't have come from anyone else with his kind of credibility, in particular when critiquing the Iraq War.** He in many ways enjoys some of the same advantages as Gore. He has a fresh start ahead of him- with a lot of stars on his shoulder, and a personality that is hard to beat.

Which then leads me to the TRUE future of our party: Paul Hackett.

Don't even get me started on how IN THE BAG this guy has Senator DeWine (R!!)'s seat in 2006. An Iraq War veteran, he has come out solidly and unequivocally, without the past, tarnishing record, in support of CORE DEMOCRATIC VALUES (thank you, EarlG). He is solidly against this war, but is willing to defend our country and is economically WORKING CLASS and fiscally conservative. In many ways he can then be, in turn, compared to Wesley Clark, but MUCH fiestier, much stronger- and, most of all- the most learned. He's the youngest, and he's seen the *******rest of the three doing things the way they need to be done********. He's learned from their mistakes, and, BEAUTIFULLY, HIT HARDER WHERE THE OTHER THREE WERE SO STRONG!!!!!! He saw that the other found a weak spot....he saw. And he stuck his knuckle in....

But that's not all. Hackett's leadership itself is clean. It's pure. And it's ANTI-GUN-CONTROL- that's the icing on the cake. It's also the future of our party if we expect to get the working class back. The man has strong principles that he does not stray from, and he's not afraid of anyone, even his own Commander in Chief.

Paul Hackett is the savior of our party. He can thank the other three for showing him the way, one of whom may be POTUS in 2008. That's alright. But I highly suggest that ALL Congressional candidates, even Senators (since Hackett is soon to be one), take a good look at the new, fresh, strong, principled, beautiful, and WINNING face of the Democratic Party that is Paul Hackett. If you want to win, be Paul Hackett. Change your name to Peter Slackett, if you have to. Doesn't matter.

This man has the formula to beat these neocons fucks DOWN. LEARN IT. I've had enough of the incompetence in our OWN party, as well. Just fucking learn it.

Paul Hackett. Learn it, love it, live it, win with it.



Thank you for that. I'll probably be editing for awhile, while you read.

I love you all.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:00 PM
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16. Want to win in '06? Read this ----^^^
That's all you need to know.
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 03:29 AM
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26. I sure glad I scrolled down past the embarrasement...
This is a great manifesto, a beautiful post that more than makes up for you embarrassing mis-post.
Could you repost it in general discussions: politics as a new thread?
I would gladly recommend it and let others know about it.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:51 PM
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14. Can't rec'd my own thread....Psssh...nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:13 PM
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17. Kick nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:45 PM
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18. Kick. nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:53 PM
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19. Kick...one more rec'd!!
:P

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:58 PM
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20. I assume this is some sort of metaphor on corporate control over...
artistic content? Very deep, man.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:59 PM
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21. Nope, just the mods refusing to move the thread.
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 12:00 AM by BullGooseLoony
How deep is that? :P

Keep it kicked, BTW.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:00 AM
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22. I know, I just find it sort of funny, sorry
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:02 AM
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24. Damn right it's funny.
I can't even get away from it.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:01 AM
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23. WHOOHOO! Five rec'ds! READ #13.
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 12:04 AM by BullGooseLoony
Everyone be sure to read the manifesto (clumsily written) above.

That's our goal, as Democrats, if's we're wanting to win.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:23 AM
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25. Kick nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:52 AM
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27. Mods, let the record show that my recommendation is
for post # 13....nothing else, just that one post.

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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:17 AM
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28. If anyone had bothered to alert this thread
then it might have been moved to the lounge. But nobody bothered to do so.
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