Can Cheney be impeached concurrently with Bush?

[CTyankee]

Envision this: in 06 the country has awakened to the Bush Admin. horror and the Dems take back the House and the Senate. New Speaker of the House. Senate creates a Watergate type investigative committee with subpoena powers. After its work is done the House considers/issues articles of impeachment. Impeachment of both means that the next president is a Democratic Speaker of the House.

CAN they impeach both Cheney and Bush?

[Tesla]

1. What would that do give us Hassert, Rice??

I think we ought to just let them keep there names, but take their powers away.
Or have a re-vote in 06 for pResident.

[Shipwack]

3. My eyes, Tesla, my eyes!

You've ruined one of my favorite WW2 posters for me... ;)

Now I can't look at my desktop with out thinking "beer run"...

hmmmm.... beer....

(j/k of course... Bush has ruined far more for me than that...)

[Coexist]

2. Yes - the entire cabinet can, I believe

correct me if I am wrong.

[electropop]

5. Article II Section 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Looks like it includes just about everybody in the Government. Also, just for grins (Article I Section 3 Clause 7):

"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

In other words, you can boot them all out and then send them _all_ to jail.

Furthermore, pardons are no good against impeachment (Article II Section 2 Clause 1):

"The President ...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

I love this searchable Constitution: http://www.law.emory.edu/erd/docs/usconst/art-2.html

[ClassWarrior]

7. I love people who dream big...

:loveya: electropop!

NGU.

[Coexist]

10. thanks!!!

[3waygeek]

14. A couple months back...

John Conyers & a couple of other House Dems asked the Congressional Research Service (CRS) to determine if Karl Rove is subject to that clause. Has anyone heard what came of that?

[indepat]

4. A Democratic-controlled House might impeach but no Repukes in the

Senate ain't likely to ever vote to convict a Repuke no matter how compelling the mountain of high crimes and two-thirds majority is required.

[texpatriot2004]

6. Not true. I understand he's support from the Republicans too.n/t

[electropop]

8. What makes you think we won't have 2/3 after '06?

:evilgrin: Well, OK, even theoretically we can only reach 59 (including the fact that Frist is likely to retire). However, even many pukes are beginning to recognize that W is a major political liability. They're going to dump him _before_ the election to save their own Hydes. He'll be out by August.

[indepat]

9. Repukes will continue to rubber-stamp his every nominee, budget

request, pre-emptive war IMHO.

[magnolia]

11. Personally...

...I prefer resignation. It's cleaner...doesn't waste so much time and money. I'm hoping it goes the way it went for Nixon...they fell like dominoes...one at a time. Maybe the Michael Brown resignation will get the ball rolling.

[Rowdyboy]

12. It takes 67 votes in the senate to impeach...We have 45 Democratic votes

If we hold open seats in Maryland, Minnesota, Vermont, New Jersey and New Hampshire

and if we hold onto Bill Nelson in FL, Ben Nelson in Nebraska, and Kent Conrad in North Dakota

and if we win Tennessee, Montana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Missouri, then we have 51 votes in the senate. Its a very long shot, but possible in a landslide.

At that point, we'd have to convince 16 of 49 remaining senate Republicans to vote to take the presidency away from their party and give it ours. Having just lost the senate and the house in the 2006 election, I doubt you could pull this one off.

Still, its nice to fantasize about.....

[CTyankee]

13. Good point. Thanks for that.

I realize what a big deal this would be. Perhaps I am just at the point where I believe that decent people have to come to the understanding that the Bush Admin. doesn't want government to work! It is the "starve the beast" mentality. If we can hammer them with that, we might have a chance at getting somewhere in an impeachment.

I know it is a dream.