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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:37 PM
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RINO stampede?
Looking over the recent polls and comparing to the Nov. election polls, it is my theory, based on numbers and personal interactions, that the RINO's have abandoned W PERMANENTLY, and are generally disgusted by the Republicans in power.

I doubt it is the single-issue Democrats who are swaying because, well, they are pleased with the Roberts nomination. Instead, I suspect it's the libertarian/independent Republicans who are the main culprit in this shift.

Thoughts?

(From RealClearPolitics)

RCP Final Pre-Election Avg 10/27 - 11/1
Approve 49.5%
Disapprove 46.8%
Spread +2.7%

Now
RCP Average 9/6 - 9/13
Approve 42.6%
Disapprove 53.4%
Spread -10.9%
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:38 PM
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1. What's a RINO?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:40 PM
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2. Republican in Name Only
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HillDem Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:44 PM
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3. Susan Collins
is my favorite RINO
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:46 PM
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6. Olympia Snowe?
Both are carved out of the same stock.

Add Lincoln Chafee (unfortunately, not his father). Shoot, even Sanunu is looking a little RINOish these days.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:52 PM
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9. Don't forget PA's favorite RINO:
Arlen Specter!

Who, aside from looking quite a bit like Uncle Fester, seems to be coping with his cancer quite well! The Roberts hearings don't seem to be wering him out much, from what I've seen thus far...
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:59 PM
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10. Sorry. You are correct.
He's my favorite RINO and I forgot him. Thank you very much for correcting me.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:03 PM
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11. I wish Arlen good health and long life, but let's not call him a RINO.
He ushered Clarence Thomas into his lifetime appointment and has already said on the record that Roberts will make an excellent Chief Justice. He is a republican and an opportunist.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:06 PM
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12. But he is/always has been pro-choice and pro-science
That goes against the rigid lock-stepping of the zealots in power now.

He did keep Bork off the Supreme Court too.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:40 AM
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13. Hey, I'M not the one calling him a RINO...
...it's the reich-wing who target him in every primary. You should HEAR the local wingnuts go off on him... they hate him more than they hated Clinton!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:44 AM
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14. They both voted against
establishing an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate what went wrong during Hurricane Katrina. They made be moderates on some issues, but they are Republicans.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:44 PM
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4. I don't know how you can conclude that.
But it works for me. I think that this summer of discontent may prove to be much worse for * than even the most pessimistic of Repugs. I not only agree with you that this might be true, but I think some of the *true* conservatives may be bailing out as well.

Unfortunately we have no confirmation from Congress in the form of Repugs going against their leadership. We'll see what happens here. It may take a DeLay take down to bring it about. However, Frist may be weak enough for some Senators to bail.

I'm still wondering what it will take to turn a couple of more Congress Critters from R to I. They've got to be ultra pissed-off at their party.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:44 PM
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5. The Ks. Conservatives who showed up to support our 9/11 demonstration
last Sunday, struck me as being more Libertarian than Conservative, but then that might just be me, because my Libertarian husband strikes me as being more "Conservative" than Libertarian.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:50 PM
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7. I see the true conservatives & the DLC dems joining ranks someday soon
Hopefully, a new truly progressive party will come from this & at the same time the end of the neo-cons.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:51 PM
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8. Clarification: RINO voters not RINO politicians....not yet anyhow
The wingnuts are in power now on the (R) side of Congress. Very few RINO types left (mostly in the Northeast)

I'm talking about RINO voters who didn't join the 'Republicans for Kerry' movement last year. The RINO's who stayed with W because of, and I quote directly from some of them here, "Terror and taxes." They are shaken and angry.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:53 AM
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15. Prove that the Dems "are pleased with the Roberts nomination."
:crazy:

NGU.


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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:23 AM
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16. Talking about the "single issue" Catholic Dems I know
And you KNOW what that single issue is, right? That's the reason they voted W against Kerry.

By no means did I mean a majority of Dems, but from my corner of the world, there are a lot of Catholic Dems who bought the 'Kerry's not a real Catholic' garbage hook-line-and-sinker. Sad.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:28 AM
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17. Then please clarify your OP.
NGU.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:32 AM
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18. The Oldtime Republicans vs.The EndTimes Republicans
The point to press is that the Goldwtaer Republicans are disgusted with the Apocalyptic nuts and the robber barons and fascists coddling them for their vote.
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