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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:05 PM
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12 dems vote NO in Dorgan amdt protecting labor laws in trade negotiation
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 01:14 PM by Mass


Why would any democrats vote against that? (amazing when many Reps and Landrieu and Pryor voted for it).

I understand it for those who voted for CAFTA, but Clinton, Schumer, and Obama voted AGAINST CAFTA.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00232

Purpose: To prohibit weakening any law that provides safeguards from unfair foreign trade practices.


Baucus (D-MT)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)1
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:07 PM
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1. That earns a...
:wtf:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:09 PM
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2. Perhaps they expect the "strengthening" of labor provisions
to come from other quarters? How?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:10 PM
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3. Free Traders....Notice Obama...Schumer... Feinstein...the usual. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:10 PM
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4. Obama?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:22 PM
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9. Obama was oversold as some kind of Democratic "savior"
Merely because he's African-American and makes emotional speeches. But in reality, there's absolutely nothing special about him. Just your garden variety politician.
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:39 PM
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17. I notice he seems to show up on these kinds of lists a lot.
At least more than I would expect, given how popular he seems to be around here.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:11 PM
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5. Once again, Senators from WA state SUCK.
They also voted for CAFTA. We need serious housecleaning here. And Obama, what a flash in the pan. Tsk tsk.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:13 PM
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6. Disgusting.
Absolutely revolting...

We need to put up primary challengers to all these clowns. :silly:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:19 PM
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7. Well, for once Salazar's not there.
Did he change his name?;)
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:24 PM
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10. Neither are Landrieu and Pryor.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:21 PM
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8. Wyden there again, he also voted for CAFTA. What does he
think Oregon is going to get out of this? What is he gonna get personally out of this. We need some new dems for sure!!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:30 PM
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11. Because someone paid them to vote that way? n/t
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:33 PM
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12. Never!
Our guys aren't corrupt!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:55 PM
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13. Here are our turncoats from this bill (in asterisks)
Harkin (Iowa) 95
Boxer (CA) 90
Lautenberg (NJ) 90
Akaka (Hawaii) 80
Corzine (NJ) 80
Dayton (MN) 80
Durbin (IL) 80
Feingold (WI) 80
Kennedy (MA) 80
Kerry (MA) 80 - DLC
Levin (MI) 80
Dodd (CN) 70 - DLC
Leahy (VT) 70
Mikulski (MD) 70
**Reed (RI) 70
Sarbanes (MD) 70
**Shumer (NY) 70
**Wyden (OR) 70
Clinton (NY) 65 - DLC
**Obama (IL) 65
Bayh (IN) 60 - DLC
Biden (DE) 60
Dorgan (ND) 60 - DLC
Stabenow (MI) 60 - DLC
Byrd (WV) 50
Inouye (Hawaii) 50
**Murray (WA) 50
Reid (NV) 50
Rockefeller (WV) 50
**Baucus (MN) 45 - DLC
Bingaman (NM) 40
**Cantwell (WA) 40 - DLC
Johnson (SD) 40 - DLC
Kohl (WI) 40 - DLC
Conrad (ND) 35 - DLC
**Feinstein (CA) 35
**Carper (DE) 30 - DLC
**Leiberman (CT) 30 - DLC
Landrieu (LA) 20 - DLC
**Lincoln(ARK) 20 - DLC
Nelson (FL) 20 - DLC
Salazar (CO) 20 - DLC
Pryor (ARK) 15 - DLC
**Nelson (NE) 0 - DLC

Looks like 6 DLCers, and 8 centrist Democrats. All are working directly against the interests of the American worker, and on this issue, can hardly call themselves Democrats.
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:38 PM
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16. What does the number next to each name mean?
nt.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:08 PM
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19. It is what I call a DU score
It represents a percentage of votes each senator cast that agrees with DUers. I only counted passage of bills and senate confirmations (no procedural votes or amendment votes).

The full methodology is here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/10/133312/333

I scored these myself because ADA ratings do not reflect how much of a progressive a Senator is (I argue faulty methodology), read the comments on the page.

I am glad I did this because it cuts through so much BS rhetoric we see here on DU. Without vote records, anyone can be villified/deified.
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:16 PM
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20. Ah. So Harkin has a really good score
Cool. He's my senator, but doesn't seem to get all that much attention on DU.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:59 PM
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22. No, he does not get enough attention on DU..he should
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 05:00 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
His score did surprise me, but it made me happy at the same time. He deserves a LOT of credit. His only black mark was not standing up with Boxer to defy the Ohio vote.....that's IT!!

Not a bad record, though. I would vote for him for President any day.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:29 PM
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14. KICK
KICK

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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:47 PM
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15. It's one thing to be in favor of free trade but to sell out workers
throughout the world is reprehensible. If we refuse to insist on wage standards, environmental protections and prohibitions on child labor and slave shop conditions, we are aiding and abetting the rush to the bottom. I used to think that globalization was a way to lift the living standards of people around the world while moving the US work force into the next generation of technological advancement. The way it is being done is to promote slave factories in Saipan while robbing the American worker of his/her ability to support a family. This is to be expected from Republicans but it is disgusting when done by those who claim to be from the Party of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:51 PM
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18. Schumer and Obama yes?
What is going on.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:57 PM
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21. Usual suspects, cept for Murray, Obama, Reed, and Schummer
Surprisingly, some of the usual suspects aren't there.
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