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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:15 PM
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Repugs are screwed. They can't raise taxes, they can't call off Iraq
Gasoline is still thru the roof, they have to cough up $200 billion for Katrina.

They are painting themselves in to a corner................
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:15 PM
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1. No....we are screwed!
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MintOreoCookie Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:18 PM
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4. Yup, we are screwed. How are we going to pay for all this $hit?
What the repubs like to do is bankrupt the government so that when a democrat comes into office, they have to raise taxes.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:21 PM
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7. Question is, "How are our great-grandchildren going to pay for all this
$hit?"

Republicans will just use it as more reason to starve social programs, including education and healthcare.
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MintOreoCookie Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:27 PM
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11. But what if I don't have any children ever?
;)

That is exactly what Bush wants to do--starve the government so that they have to cut the benefits they don't like.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:10 PM
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16. I'm sure that Hu Jintao will be happy to continue buying
bonds and wait for the right moment to call in his chits.
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GayCanuck Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:21 PM
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8. God
I feel for all of you. I feel so safe up here.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:22 PM
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9. Exactly. Go nuts with the credit card and leave the tab for others
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 01:22 PM by Lastlaughin08
Rotten, pathetic bunch of bastards.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:16 PM
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2. True, and they painted me and you right in there
how they screwed things this badly is apocalyptic.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:17 PM
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3. and I thought Reagan-Bush Sr. left a mess
I don't know how a Democratic president is going to clean up this mess in 2009.

It may be necessary for the next Democratic president to assume emergency powers for the duration of the crisis and permanently dissolve the Congress.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:20 PM
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5. Taking the US down with them. nt
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:20 PM
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6. are the Democrats "calling off Iraq" ???
the Democratic Party has refused to call for an end to the occupation ... they are a disgrace as an opposition party ...

do you really believe they deserve any credit for their useless, go-along position on Iraq ?????
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:25 PM
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10. They WANT to spend gov't out of existence - Sure they can raise taxes...
They WANT to spend a lot... NOW. "Starving the beast" MEANS diverting government spending away from services that most people can benefit from. (the war is perfect). Ultimately, like Mexico in the 1980's, the majority of tax dollars will go for servicing the debt. The public will conclude that the government can't do anything as well as the private sector and openly support the redefinition of the government to nothing more than protecting property rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast
http://www.wordspy.com/words/starvethebeast.asp

"you must make voters hate the government. There's a danger that working-class families might see government as their friend: because their incomes are low, they don't pay much in taxes, while they benefit from public spending. So in starving the beast, you must take care not to cut taxes on these "lucky duckies." (Yes, that's what The Wall Street Journal called them in a famous editorial.) In fact, if possible, you must raise taxes on working-class Americans in order, as The Journal said, to get their "blood boiling with tax rage."

As for raising taxes, they're raising taxes every year on the working upper class through adjustments in the Alternative Minimum Tax.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4660655/

More over, they can always propose to make taxes more 'fair' and 'simple' in any number of ways that would screw over working people. (national sales tax for starters)

Moreover, by cutting back on services, states and localities are forced to pick up the difference doing what? You got it - raising taxes...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:46 PM
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12. Katrina, the $199,930,000,000 Levee mistake
For want of a nail, the shoe was lost.

$70,000,000 might have saved us from this disaster.

But this misAdministration is Reactive, not proactive . . .
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:49 PM
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13. Just like in Texas- he came in with a surplus and left a debt, now
he took over from Clinton with billions of surplus and he pissed it away.

Molly Ivens has written about his spending ways and days in texas- he left that place a mess.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:17 PM
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14. yup - the bastard did for America what he did for Texas
it's not like there weren't any warning signs
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:07 PM
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15. And in 2006 and 2008, off they go
and leave the rest of us and all to follow with an unsustainable debt. That is, if we last that long. They can go away with fat pockets and the rest of us will be taxed to death or have to sacrifice beyond limit. I feel this is the beginning of tough times for all of us. No matter how hard you worked, it doesn't matter any more. Sort of like "tough cookies, like it or eave it"!
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:36 PM
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18. In the future we need to be in attack mode
What a republican may win the presidency. "Holy crap hold onto your pocketbooks that deficit is going to go flying way out of control."

They attack liberals saying they want to raise taxes. Let's point out the obvious one that they want to raise deficits.

Tax and spend liberal

vs.

Charge It! Republicans
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:25 PM
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17. it would be great if
we weren't along for the ride with them.
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