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Fri Sep-16-05 11:53 PM
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Every Dem who fails to filibuster must be defeated in primaries. |
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Such a Democrat is no better than a Republican. We need to run some real Democrats. A pretend Democrat is worse than a Republcan because he lulls us into a false sense that he is on our side. Let's call these guys up and explain that this is an election-deciding vote. There are a lot of good people in our Party. If no one is jumping into the race. Let's sit on the doorsteps of some of the stars we want to run. They'd get the votes of Democrats and of the star-struck Republicans if we nominate them.
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Sat Sep-17-05 12:08 AM
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Sat Sep-17-05 12:21 AM
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2. That's some pretty incredible bullshit |
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Have fun in fantasy la-la land. Filibustering Roberts WILL make Democrats look bad. I think they should vote against him, but filibustering him would be a mistake.
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Sat Sep-17-05 01:07 AM
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7. It's not that fillibustering him is necesarilly a bad thing... |
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But eliminating so many dems that the GOP will have a fillibuster proof majority on everything IS a bad idea.
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Sat Sep-17-05 08:05 AM
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12. I agree. I think the dems are saving the filibuster for the next |
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Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 08:05 AM by MintOreoCookie
candidate. Remember, confirming Roberts will not change the overall make-up of the Court.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg won confirmation easily (93-3). She was a former ACLU lawyer. You can bet the republicans were not thrilled about her. She freely admitted at her hearings she was pro-choice.
I have listened to Roberts's answers. I am a lawyer, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of what he is saying. I would be disappointed with the dems if they attempted a filibuster with him. I think he will be okay.
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Sat Sep-17-05 12:31 AM
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3. enjoy yourself, but it might make you go blind |
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I always click on your threads to see whether you actually get within a stone's throw of an idea anywhere within the ballpark of your nic.
No luck so far.
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Sat Sep-17-05 12:35 AM
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Sat Sep-17-05 12:42 AM
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5. I think they already cut a deal. I think unless he anti's up to his |
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position on Roe vs. Wade - they don't have a choice.
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Mon Sep-19-05 06:49 PM
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28. They do have a choice |
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to stand up for telling the truth about the incompetent, corrupt people Bush is appointing to the Supreme Court - even if it doesn't change the vote, its their job to educate the voting public about what Bush is doing.
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Sat Sep-17-05 01:06 AM
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6. How about we win back the Senate so we don't have to fillibuster |
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If Dems controlled the Senate right now, Pat Leahy would be head of the judiciary committee and we would be able to hold Roberts up in committee until he actually answere dthe damn questions and Bush released the documents.
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Sat Sep-17-05 01:10 AM
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8. Really. Dems didn't win enough seats. Hopefully - with another year |
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of boy wonder - the seriousness of elections and our need to show up in solidarity & en mass will sink in to all 60% of Americans who hate Bush.
Apathy is the enemy.
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Sat Sep-17-05 03:32 PM
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23. Don't underestimate the power of the apathetic |
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They will get outraged at whoever BUSH tells them to (ie. Democrats that are out of power and don't control anything.)
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Mon Sep-19-05 03:35 PM
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26. That would give us what we want, and nothing to complain about. |
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Therefore, it should not be done!
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Sat Sep-17-05 07:04 AM
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9. So total civil war in the party is your answer to taking back Congress? |
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Some "stars"? There are many people who wouldn't vote for them just because they are celebrities.
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Sat Sep-17-05 07:50 AM
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10. You're mom goes to college. |
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Sat Sep-17-05 07:57 AM
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11. There will not be a filibuster - you can as well start to look for |
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candidates for each seat, including Roberts and Kennedy.
Now, we could simply focus on those who will vote for Roberts.
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Sat Sep-17-05 08:26 AM
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.....wrong judge.
Roberts isn't that bad. Wait until the nominee to replace O'Connor comes along, then most likely we'll have a valid reason to filibuster.
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Sat Sep-17-05 09:15 AM
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14. "Let's sit on the doorsteps of some of the stars we want to run." |
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1. First lets purge the few Democrats left in the Senate. 2. Then Lets fill the Senate with TV and Movie Stars
What is step 3?
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Sat Sep-17-05 09:15 AM
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15. Your moniker makes it seem like opposite day |
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Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 09:16 AM by JNelson6563
Hard to imagine a worse idea.
Julie
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Sat Sep-17-05 09:28 AM
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16. Understand the Situation before doing something Rash |
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Filibustering Roberts will be a terrible idea. First it will destroy any gains we made sadly to the bungled federal response to Katrina. Secondly, he is replacing a conservative Chief Justice so the Courts balance is not in question. Secondly he is not a Thomas or Scalia, he is the textbook Judicial Restraint judge. In other words he is going to let congress use there implied powers and sit back and watch. Lastly he has given every indication that he follows Stare Decisis or deference to past precedent. I do not believe we need to worry about Roe yet. As much as I disagree with his ideology we can live with him.
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Sat Sep-17-05 03:13 PM
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21. Because he is being nominated for Chief Justice |
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I am not too concerned about him getting confirmed because it won't change the balance. However, if someone like Roberts is nominated to replace O'Connor, then a filibuster will be necesary.
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Mon Sep-19-05 11:41 AM
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Sat Sep-17-05 09:34 AM
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17. Let's make it even easier for the BushBots to step around the bodies. |
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There's a good plan for us to win back the country...
Sheesh.
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Sat Sep-17-05 09:37 AM
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18. this is about as unreasonable as we can go |
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go after dems. cause chaos and destruction within the party. ya that will show bush. let bush off for all he has done and blame the dems. there ya go. good thinking. do it my way, regardless of productivity. only my way. nothing else is good enough.
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Sat Sep-17-05 01:46 PM
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19. you forgot the part about filling the senate with TV and Movie Stars |
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Sat Sep-17-05 03:10 PM
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20. lol lol because i stopped reading after a point. lol. oh funny |
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then to follow up after doing all this lets put more people in that dont know what they are doing, like bush to create more chaos and mess. lol
thanks for making me read more
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Mon Sep-19-05 03:35 PM
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27. No kidding. Purging the Democrats in the Senate? |
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Mon Sep-19-05 03:30 PM
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25. so, how much money will you contribute to each primary challenger? |
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Ya know, Lieberman's primary opponent dropped out because he could only manage to raise $1000.
Takes money to mount a primary challenge - especially against a popular incumbent.
How much will you donate to each primary challenger?
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Mon Sep-19-05 06:51 PM
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anything about Lieberman's challengers here or in other progressive sites.
Things might have been different if they had. Look at how much help Paul Hackett received.
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Tue Sep-20-05 04:58 AM
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30. Yes they did. DU was how I found out about Orman |
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Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 05:06 AM by wyldwolf
For example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=143x1206... and at KOS http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/15/114220/432Did Paul Hackett challenge a Democratic incumbent? ... but, still, the question remains unanswered. How much money will the OP give to primary challengers? (crickets chirping)
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Tue Sep-20-05 05:12 AM
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31. I just let Two Key Democrats know that. Thanks. |
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