Everyone who loves the Big Dog, warts and all, check in!

[Writer]

He's the smooth operator - the man with the plan.

Mess with this man and he'll cold cock you.

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Bill! Bill-Bill! (that's right)

[buff2]

1. I love him!

Flaws and all....he's the best President EVER! :hi:

[Rageneau]

17. Clone him over and over and elect those clones to high office.

[brainshrub]

2. Yeah, the Big Dog was alright.

I still contend that Clinton was a moderate Republican... but he was a good president who actually worked to make this country a better place.

[SaveElmer]

3. There are no perfect politicians....

But I would trust Bill more than most to deal with the problems we face. This whole Katrina thing (among other issues), has just made me long even more for someone with competence and compassion back in the White House. Not to mention one who can string more than one coherent sentance together!!!

[celestia671]

11. Agreed!

When Clinton talks, he knows what he's talking about and it shows in his facial expressions and body language. * on the other hand, stumbles over his words and fidgets, pretty much like a kid with ADHD!

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Exactly

You know he actually cared. And I remember about two weeks ago Joe Scarborough was on talking about FEMA and was praising Clinton for who he put in charge of it. I was really surprised.

[Liberal Veteran]

4. I like Bill....he doesn't pretend to be perfect....unlike the repubs,

...who seem to shout their false piety through a megaphone.

[haydukelives]

5. Faforite bumper sticker

I MISS BILL

[TheDebbieDee]

6. I'd trust him to properly and respectfully represent the US

while traveling abroad....

I'd trust him to treat other Heads of State with the proper respect and dignity......

I'd trust him to make a speech to a foreign audience without making us look and sound like ugly Americans!

I miss the last legally elected and undisputed President of the US!

[Kenroy]

7. I think he's a brilliant man

and was one of our greatest presidents. This "all-or-nothing" attitude here is funny. One day "fill in the blank" is the greatest politician ever, the next day he or she is a huge DLC sell-out.

Politics is messy. The only people with ideological purity in politics are dictators, whether on the right or left.

[autorank]

8. I love him...and he pisses me off. This guy...

He is the single best communicator after listening to him for 4-5 minutes that I've heard period. JFK was the best from minute one through the end...he was like a lightening bolt, the 4th of July, and the the first movement of Mozart's Jupiter all rolled into one, to put in perspective. But Clinton, if you listen for a while, he is so damn good and he's brilliant. The part that pisses me off is his amnesia, he's from Hope, AR not Chappaqua, NY; from the sticks not Westchester County (which I love btw). Bill, damn it, come on home among the rabble, the tired, lame, pissed off, and great masses of Americans and, for once in your life, get really mad in public, feel our outrage and project it. You know you want to;)

[aquart]

9. He never wastes his energy on the rage.

He spends it on focusing everyone on what to do next.

[autorank]

10. That's a great policy but there are exceptions. Whatever...

[nevergiveup]

12. I disagree with his present position

on Iraq but I also know that if he were still president we would not be there. I also know if he had been president on the Monday of Katrina he would have been directing traffic and calling the shots and busting his presidential butt to help those people. I watched him on Larry King the other night and marveled at how he responded to the question on Cindy. I would give almost anything to watch him in a debate with Chimpy....oh my!....what fun that would be!!!!!!!!!

[Demoiselle]

13. I watched him last night on Larry King...wonderful as usual....but....

right now I want somebody to express the anger and grief I'm feeling over New Orleans--both the hideously mishandled "rescue" efforts and the years this country wasted when we could have been preparing and preventing. And although Clinton puts all the arguments beautifully , he's so controlled and apparently rageless (best actor we've ever had in the White House) I'm currently impatient with him. I want somebody to SCREAM the truth. I want a whole lot of somebodies to scream the truth.

[betterdeadthanred]

51. There are a few

Keith Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, Jack Cafferty, even Scarborough seems pretty ticked off these days. I just hope they keep it up.

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. Since this is a First Church of the DLC and Our Holy Clinton thread.....

....shouldn't it be in one of the religious group forums? ;)

[bunny planet]

15. I wish he'd stop hanging out with Poppy Bush, but I've got to say, I still

love the Big Dawg. I think a lot of people would have him back in the WH in a NY minute. If they would've just left him alone, he could have been a great leader, hell, he was anyway, even though they hounded him day and night.

[calimary]

16. Here! Yes he's got warts. But his ugliest wart is One MILLION times

better than bush on his best day.

Sometimes he drives me crazy, but then again, my husband does that, too.

[Hippo_Tron]

18. It's hard not to like Clinton

I disagree with a lot of the things that he did while he was President (and no, getting a blow-job in the oval office isn't one of them), but unlike shrub, I feel like he actually did have regard for other human beings.

[Greybnk48]

19. I miss having a real President, like Bill

I'm sure the rest of the world does too.

[Rocinante]

20. I wish Al Gore would have campaigned with him...

I shake my head every time I think about that. Pisses me off. :-(

[Andromeda]

21. You da man, Bill!

He DOES look cool with the sax. :)

[KitchenWitch]

22. I love me some Bill Clinton

Blue Dress and all!

[tenshi816]

23. I love the man.

I don't care what he's ever done with his penis, or with his cigars for that matter.

One thing I can't for the life of me figure out is why so many people think George Bush is a man of the people who likes nothing better than to clear brush and ride around in his pickup truck, when in reality he was born with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth (and later up his nose).

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, is the real deal. Working class, small town background, not much money while growing up, worked hard to achieve his goals in life.

I don't understand why so many people with backgrounds exactly like Bill Clinton's hate Bill so much and love the Connecticut Cowboy (who, though they will never believe it, looks down on them).

[FreedomAngel82]

32. So true

It pisses me off too. People said the same thing about John Kerry. How he was so rich etc. but George Bush was born rich as well. Duh. :eyes:

[realFedUp]

24. He's doing a Cruise lately

He's doing an admirable job of raising funds
for worthy causes, but I'm weary of wall to wall Bill.

[McCamy Taylor]

25. Me, me, me!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[Q]

26. Idol worship...

...is for teenagers.

The rest of us will stick with the truth. Clinton's DLC is in bed with the Bushie Right.

[Pepperbelly]

30. SSDD ...

Oh my but you never give it a rest. Q, there are places on the internets where Clinton bashing is applauded. Does it not bother you to be on the same side as Rush, Newsmax, Scaife, and Henry Hyde?

[Q]

35. Or...

...you could accept the fact that not every Democrat is a lemming willing to follow the group and jump over Clinton's Cliff.

Perhaps one day you'll get your wish and opposing views about Clinton and his RWing buddies won't be allowed on DU or any other website.

I won't bother to reply to your intimation that I'm on the 'same side as Rush, etc'....except to say that your nasty comment is worthy of the best RWing Smear Artists. Don't look now...but it's YOU that has adopted their tactics of trashing others for their opinions.

The Clinton DLC has made Liberals and everyone to the left of Lieberman the enemy. Well...I say fuck them all...because we're not going to stand by and be silent anymore so that the DLC can shove another corporate candidate down our throats.

[Pepperbelly]

36. The proof is in the pudding ...

and no matter how you squeal, it does not change the fact that you are on the same side as those people. How do you reconcile that inside of yourself?

I didn't trash you. I merely noted that you and they agree. And then I asked you how you felt about that. I note as well that rather than answering the question or attempting to reconcile the seemingly contradictory rhetoric, you chose instead to dodge and then divert the "attack" by mirroring it. Oldest trick in the book.

So how do you feel about being on the same side re: Clinton as those individuals? Will YOU get up with fleas as a consequence?

[Q]

37. What is it that you want...

...a fucking loyalty oath to Clinton?

I defended him for eight years of witch hunts, inquisitions and the RWing misusing our legal system. But I don't feel the need to defend him anymore. You and the rest of the idol worshippers can go ahead and worship him and trash anyone who doesn't like his 'third way' politics.

And actually...Clinton is closer than I am to the group of RWingers that you mentioned in your attempt to belittle my post. He's the one that's rationalizing the takeover of the 'free press' by the corporate-sponsored media and making excuses for the most corrupt White House in this nation's history.

The 'oldest trick in the book' is smearing dissenting opinions as being aligned with that of the enemy. Rove would be proud of you.

[Pepperbelly]

40. he is no doubt ...

already proud of you. Sowing discontent among the enemy is his long suit. If you don't like the possibility of being manipulated and used by Rove and his ilk, perhaps you should take a long look and check your own self.

I don't want loyalty oaths. I just hate seeing the bad guys work being accomplished by a good guy.

[Mr_Spock]

59. I love Clinton and I HATE the Clinton bashers

The Clinton bashers really suck - they ruin this whole place. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

[magnolia]

27. Sometimes he...

...pisses me off. Sometimes I don't agree with him at all. But I always respect and admire his good heart, incredible intelligence and leadership. No one has more reason to be angry, hate and seek revenge. But, he doesn't and that shows true character. He's a modern Will Rogers who has never met a man he didn't like. If he were capable of rabid hatred, if he spewed vemon...he wouldn't be who he is. It's too bad that so many Democrats follow the black and white, "you're either for us or against us" way of thinking. So anyone who doesn't stick to the left wing talking points or isn't attacking the other side at every turn, must be one of THEM! One of the reasons I'm a democrat is because we are diversified, open minded and free thinkers. I respect a person who thinks for themselves even if I don't agree with them.

George Bush's approval rating is at an all-time low...and he is sinking fast. This didn't happen because our democratic leaders were constantly calling him an incompetent idiot. This happened because Bush PROVED HIMSELF to be an incompetent idiot. Our dem leaders need to get their act together on issues and policies and prepare for the big 2006 take over. Let Bush bury himself and take his cronies with him. Our people don't need to get their hands dirty. Certainly someone with Clinton's class and statemanship doesn't need to get down into the filthy mess that is the Bush Administration.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Yes

I long for the days of a true leader and someone who I can at least respect. I still remember at the opening of his library he gave a speech and asked if he was the only one there who liked both Bush and Kerry. I personally was like "duh!" I guess because of all the lies and the murdering of innocent people. *Sigh* And then Poppy and Barbara Bush calling him a "son" and stuff. *Sigh* But I still am always thankful that I grew up during the Clinton years.

[renie408]

63. That was really SMART!

That bit about Bush's approval ratings. I get so caught up in trying to prove to everybody I know that Bush is a fuck up that I forget to promote the Dems that I think AREN'T fuck ups!

[FreedomAngel82]

28. I still really like him

I just wonder about him hanging out with Poppy Bush too much. :shrug: And him defending Bush with Iraq when we all know he lied and manipulated. *Sigh*

[Mend]

31. MSM is having Clinton on TV to calm us all....

I really believe the peasants would storm the castle with pick-axes if he didn't appear so much right now.

[texpatriot2004]

34. kick n/t

[SillyGoose]

38. Checking in...I miss the hell out of him.

I long for the days when we had a President with a heart and a brain. How did we go from there to here?

:-(

[SharonRB]

41. And don't forget courage.

[watercolors]

39. He is the MAN!

Love and greatly admire his intellectual capabilities. He speaks from his heart!

[Bluesplayer]

42. every time

I listen to the guy, I think about how Bush's occupation of the White House must eat away at him, knowing how much better Gore would have handled everything.

My next thought is that in terms of former-presidential activism, whatever Bush does is going to pale in insignificance next to Clinton. I'm pretty certain Bush is just going to join the boards of a variety of government contractor type corporations and go back to Texas and do lines off of Condi's shoes.

[SharonRB]

43. Here!

I miss him so much. I miss having a real president. He was the best president in my lifetime. No politician, no person, is perfect and we shouldn't expect perfection. He was probably the closest to perfect we'll ever see in a politician, though. He's a statesman, a scholar, a caring, empathetic, well-spoken man. He knows how to work with people -- both other Americans and people from other countries. He know how to gain consensus (except with Republicans while he was in office, obviously). The fact that he's sexy as hell was just a bonus, but not necessary.

I wish so much he could be elected again. Through his new Global Summit, it sounds like he's still working to make the world a better place and I have confidence he will succeed. I didn't love seeing Wolfie there, but the others were impressive and varied.

It's so good to see him around a lot again. It must be burning Bush up (burning Bush? Hmmmm...that sounds like a good idea.)

[ulysses]

44. some of us got cold cocked, yes.

[BlueIris]

70. He was so much better than I ever gave him credit for.

I'm sorry, President Clinton. I was just a dumb kid then. Now I see that you were the best possible thing our country could have had to serve it at that time.

[Wordie]

45. Love is maybe going a bit too far for me, but I sure respect his

intelligence, speaking ability, and political instincts. I haven't always agreed with him, but I believe he truly cares about our country and our people. And anyway, he sure is better than either version of Bush.

[bluedawg12]

46. He da' Dawg! And a smart 'un too. n/t

[cassiepriam]

47. I miss him so much.........

He made it all look so easy.
He spoiled us.
We did not deserve him.

[NoPasaran]

48. Eight years of peace, eight years of prosperity

What's not to love?

[Telly Savalas]

49. I disagree with a lot of his specific policy positions...

but when he's speaking in more vague terms about his vision for the country, he can be pretty inspiring. (In particular that speech on the special features of "The Hunting of the President" DVD is brilliant.)

I long for the days when I was complaining about him instead of dealing with that guy who lives in Crawford.

[mtnsnake]

50. Bill lover here and remember

Don't mess with Bill.

[betterdeadthanred]

52. I adore him

He was the first President I ever voted for. He screwed up, so what? Who hasn't? Most of us just don't have our screw ups plastered all over the media.

[renie408]

53. I have always liked Clinton...but since I have been coming here

I feel like it is a guilty pleasure.

[Mr_Spock]

57. Yeah, it's one of the things I hate most about DU.

I like this place a lot, but if there's one thing I HATE is how people aren't just happy supporting their own candidates, they SLAM people IN THEIR OWN PARTY who just says like one thing they don't like - just once!!! This kind of emotional posting here is so stupid - the emotional tyrants here should be punished at times.

[renie408]

61. I am pretty much of a political newbie...

So there is a lot I am not well educated about. But I can't understand that if Clinton was such a bad guy, why were the 90's so good for this country? Everybody here compares Bush's stats to the stats from the mid to late 90's...Helllooo??? Who do you think was responsible for those stats?

I dunno. Maybe he is just Republican Lite. But all I know is that I was not nearly as depressed in the late 90's as I am now.

[Mr_Spock]

66. You have to try to understand ther viewpoint - there is some validity

to it. It's just that they can support their candidate and maybe take a comparitive swipe at the DLC types, but the wholesale bashing of these people is unseemly at times - as I'm sure you'll find out. I try to overlook the posts, but I know they are trying to influence the more swayable amongst us and I don't think it's either right, fair or appropriate. I keep an eye on these people now...

[Time for change]

54. His speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention

Was possibly the most effective speech I've ever heard.

We need to hold on to him.

[Lindacooks]

55. Me!

[Mr_Spock]

56. Best President of my lifetime

I was so happy to have such an optimistic and intelligent person in the WH. Just look what we have now - makes Bill Clinton look even that much better :D

[Ishoutandscream2]

75. Yep, say that all the time

44 years old, and there's never been a better prez in that time.

[DinahMoeHum]

58. Checkin' in.

:kick::kick:

[friendofbenn]

60. i love clinton! he moved me....to a bigger house!

i hate clinton primarily for his policy in haiti.

also his bombing of a drugs factory in the sudan to take attention away from the lewinsky scandal.

these are just the tip of the iceberg. i'm sure i can find a lot more if pushed

just another lowlife us president

[Skittles]

62. I've always loved him

always will......I have the same weakness Hillary does for him :)

[Arkham House]

64. It Was Interesting to Listen to Him

His speeches were obviously less frivolous than that of the ordinary politician. In an interview or press conference, you could actually see his intelligence and articulateness. Consider him as opposed to the illiteracies of Reagan, Bush I, and of course Bush II...is there some law of nature that Republican Presidents have to be morons? I disagreed plenty with Clinton, but he was a remarkable man and remarkable President.

[Zhade]

65. Nice to see a DLCer admit he has warts.

You're more intellectually honest than some of your fellows here. Kudos to you for that.

But I can't join in on the love-fest. Don't loathe him, certainly don't love him. Angry with many of his policies.

[opihimoimoi]

67. The Man has Class and Intellect...somethin clearly lacking presently

[Digit]

68. He's a great human being and a wonderful politician

I how he can see the big picture and make things happen.
In addition, he is a true diplomat with alot of heart.

[snowbear]

69. Big Dawg is sorely missed...

[Connie_Corleone]

71. I'm checking in.

All politicians have flaws. No one will agree 100% with what a politician says or does. But, Clinton bashing gets old real quick on DU. It's tiring and non-productive.

Clinton's the best president we had during MY lifetime. He was the first president I was old enough to vote for.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

72. Right here! Best POTUS of my lifetime.

Luv ya, warts and all.:hug:

[NMDemDist2]

73. Clinton-- The Last Real President

and a smart, savvy man

[Mad_Dem_X]

74. Love, love, love him!

Now THAT, my friends, was a President!!! I miss him...

[robbedvoter]

76. Love him, miss him...

I am pissed off by the Poppy connection but, OTOH, that only gives him more credibility with the numbnuts when he attacks W. Anyway, what he did for this country no one can take away from him.