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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:49 AM
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Clinton on ABC
Remind me why we have Bush as president.

A smart, knowledgeable, man
compared to a total insane doofus.

He is still impressive, and for the first time, he is picking at policies and beginning to make suggestions - still toeing the line on criticism, and refusing to blame.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:56 AM
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1. I wholeheartedly agree with you about Clinton and thank God he
is stepping up and offering advice. Maybe someone in the current administration has realized by now that they have sent this country into a free fall and that they had better change directions fast.

I wonder what Ken Star thinks now about the witch hunt he lead after Clinton. I wonder if anything has sunk into his brain yet.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:11 AM
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5. ken starr is still unhappy about losing out on that lawskule gig.
I read someplace that he had "many questions" about the whole process, but felt that his oath required him to proceed. As for regrets, he never considered that the process of governing would be harmed, because the "courts" would protect the process.

What we have just witnessed was 8 yrs of neocon attacks, wasting $$$, time and taking precious attention from governing. Now, the neocons have control and with control comes responsibility.

Can you imagine the squealing like a pig if democrats did to bush what they did to Clinton for 8 yrs? Even worse, pretty much everyone knows that Bush cannot deal with detail, and he now has regressed so far, that his top aides must create DVDs just to get his attention. He would be totally incensed and even more insane than he is now.


But, doing that to him would be a mistake because it would give the neoconmen ultra-rightists cover for their total abject, absolute incompetent showing for 5 yrs.

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:01 AM
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2. Have they asked him about the BBC coverage
which he thought was "stacked up" against the federal government?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:24 AM
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6. so fucking what?
I don't put defending BBC at the fucking top of my list. You guys don't even make sense.

However, if you ar interested, there is another site dedicated to Clinton bashing. Did you make a wrong turn?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:24 AM
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9. Well, the OP said he was "refusing to blame"
so I wondered if he been asked about his criticism of the BBC coverage, because he's accusing them of blaming Bush. So I asked a question here. Given that many people here on DU thought the BBC coverage good, it seemed a question that people might be interested in.

However, this seems to offend your sensibilities. You've come up with some group "you guys" - I have no idea who you are talking about. No, I'm sure I'm in the right place. If you want me to let you know when I start bashing Clinton, if I ever do, I will. But asking a question isn't 'bashing'.

I also don't have much interest in your list. If you think that no-one is allowed to ask Bill Clinton questions, your judgement is likely to be poor.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:30 AM
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10. I am definately put in my place ...
How dare I question the never-ending Clinton bashing at Democratic Underground.

I submit that the judgement of the Clinton-bashers is fatally flawed. Listing bullshit labels is meaningless and that is what those folk are wont to do. Name me one single livin g politician who has done at least an equal amount of good for people.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:48 PM
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12. pepper, I am not arguing. You make a great point.
AND, part of the legacy was 8 yrs of attacks by neoconmen. if you repeat a big lie often enough, the people start to believe.


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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:56 PM
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13. ...
If you're into blind faith then perhaps you should go to the other side.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:02 AM
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3. OH YEAH ...
AND, people have to understand, he has to be VERY, VERY careful what he says about the admin ... The spin machine has already put Hillary through the smear grinder times two, and would just TOTALLY exploit the "ex president husband" who underminned the Bushco ...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:07 AM
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4. I wish, for the sake of the Country, Bush would put Clinton in charge
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 10:12 AM by Pirate Smile
of the Katrina relief effort on the ground and rebuilding NOLA and the gulf coast. His brain coordinating the help for the evacuees, dealing with clean up and reconstruction taking into account all the environmental concerns now and in the future, creating a healthy community to combat the poverty of the people, etc.

It will never happen but it would help so much.

I can dream, even if it is an exercise in futility.

edit to add - if Bush had a brain in his head (which it clearly appears he doesn't) he would appoint a Democrat to help create a bipartisan atmosphere in the rebuilding, however, instead he is going to let this become (just like Iraq) an exercise for the Heritage Foundation to try out their "conservative" idiotic ideas and send in a bunch of 19 year olds to run things.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:46 AM
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7. "Remind me why we have Bush as president."
Term limits

A largely lazy, uninformed electorate

The Supreme Court

Massive voter Fraud

Successful and strategic lying by the other side

Corporate interst money and influence

Special interest money

Deregulation of the media

.......... lots of reasons.

TC
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:58 AM
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8. damn, totally, I was having a good sunday, too.
almost done with the crossword, and did two Sudoku this morning.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:48 AM
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11. I think it's funny
That the repugs can't get one speaker to defend the actions, you see the repugs aren't on Tv today. That have to rely on a true Dem to come to the rescue. You can't defend a lie, no matter how you try.
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