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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:18 PM
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No Place for a Poet at a Banquet of Shame: Poet declines WH invite
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 09:00 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
No Place for a Poet at a Banquet of Shame
Sharon Olds


For reasons spelled out below, the poet Sharon Olds has declined to attend the National Book Festival in Washington, which, coincidentally or not, takes place September 24, the day of an antiwar mobilization in the capital. Olds, winner of a National Book Critics Circle Award and professor of creative writing at New York University, was invited along with a number of other writers by First Lady Laura Bush to read from their works. Three years ago artist Jules Feiffer declined to attend the festival's White House breakfast as a protest against the Iraq War ("Mr. Feiffer Regrets," November 11, 2002). We suggest that invitees to this year's event consider following their example. --The Editors


Laura Bush
First Lady
The White House

Dear Mrs. Bush,

I am writing to let you know why I am not able to accept your kind invitation to give a presentation at the National Book Festival on September 24, or to attend your dinner at the Library of Congress or the breakfast at the White House.


In one way, it's a very appealing invitation. The idea of speaking at a festival attended by 85,000 people is inspiring! The possibility of finding new readers is exciting for a poet in personal terms, and in terms of the desire that poetry serve its constituents--all of us who need the pleasure, and the inner and outer news, it delivers.

And the concept of a community of readers and writers has long been dear to my heart. As a professor of creative writing in the graduate school of a major university, I have had the chance to be a part of some magnificent outreach writing workshops in which our students have become teachers. Over the years, they have taught in a variety of settings: a women's prison, several New York City public high schools, an oncology ward for children. Our initial program, at a 900-bed state hospital for the severely physically challenged, has been running now for twenty years, creating along the way lasting friendships between young MFA candidates and their students--long-term residents at the hospital who, in their humor, courage and wisdom, become our teachers.

When you have witnessed someone nonspeaking and almost nonmoving spell out, with a toe, on a big plastic alphabet chart, letter by letter, his new poem, you have experienced, close up, the passion and essentialness of writing. When you have held up a small cardboard alphabet card for a writer who is completely nonspeaking and nonmoving (except for the eyes), and pointed first to the A, then the B, then C, then D, until you get to the first letter of the first word of the first line of the poem she has been composing in her head all week, and she lifts her eyes when that letter is touched to say yes, you feel with a fresh immediacy the human drive for creation, self-expression, accuracy, honesty and wit--and the importance of writing, which celebrates the value of each person's unique story and song.

So the prospect of a festival of books seemed wonderful to me. I thought of the opportunity to talk about how to start up an outreach program. I thought of the chance to sell some books, sign some books and meet some of the citizens of Washington, DC. I thought that I could try to find a way, even as your guest, with respect, to speak about my deep feeling that we should not have invaded Iraq, and to declare my belief that the wish to invade another culture and another country--with the resultant loss of life and limb for our brave soldiers, and for the noncombatants in their home terrain--did not come out of our democracy but was instead a decision made "at the top" and forced on the people by distorted language, and by untruths. I hoped to express the fear that we have begun to live in the shadows of tyranny and religious chauvinism--the opposites of the liberty, tolerance and diversity our nation aspires to.

I tried to see my way clear to attend the festival in order to bear witness--as an American who loves her country and its principles and its writing--against this undeclared and devastating war.

But I could not face the idea of breaking bread with you. I knew that if I sat down to eat with you, it would feel to me as if I were condoning what I see to be the wild, highhanded actions of the Bush Administration.

What kept coming to the fore of my mind was that I would be taking food from the hand of the First Lady who represents the Administration that unleashed this war and that wills its continuation, even to the extent of permitting "extraordinary rendition": flying people to other countries where they will be tortured for us.

So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it.

Sincerely,

SHARON OLDS




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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:21 PM
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1. OMG! BRAVO! BRAVO!!!!!!! (kicked and nominated)
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 08:23 PM by madeline_con
Great letter!!!

:kick:
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:29 PM
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7. What a great turn down.
She laid out all the reasons the invitation meant so much to her and then made a very strong statement of principle. I think the idiots in this administration are clueless about how offensive their entire reign has been to most Americans. This is how our elected leaders should be stepping up.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:37 AM
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104. Deleted message
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:43 PM
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31. ITYM Brava
.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:22 PM
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Thank you, Sharon Olds, for
for such a searing decline to your invitation to the faux white house.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:22 PM
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2. Bravo!
what a wonderful statement!
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:22 PM
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3. wow
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:22 PM
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4. Nominated!
:kick:

I love you Sharon Olds!
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:24 PM
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5. A very elegant and graceful way to say,
"Go F*ck Yourself! What a great letter!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:26 PM
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6. Patriotism is alive and well ... and has found at least one voice. k/n
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:30 PM
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8. I though i had heard to much Olds,
I was wrong.

She sure knows how to write a letter.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:32 PM
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9. Brilliant reply
I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:41 PM
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19. could not stomach it
FU LWB

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:59 PM
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27. We need more people with stomachs in America.
Doesn't get much stronger than that.



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:30 AM
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119. I printed copies of Old's letter
and placed them on notice boards with the heading "I could not stomach it". We've also emailed it to tons of people. Today I'll order two of her books.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:12 AM
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39. I loved that part too
Thank you, Sharon Olds.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:32 PM
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10. What a poet and wordsmith!.....
She said "fuck you bitch" but she said it so eloquently. After reading that letter, Laura might be having second thoughts about attending herself.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:42 PM
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21. Do you really think they will show this to the Librarian?
Pulleeeze. THis letter won't get any where near that idot. She probably wouldn't know what she meant anyway!
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:34 PM
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11. Recommended, for simple but powerful decency
I read many words every day, but I haven't read such moving eloquence in a long time. Thanks for reminding me how blessed this country is, even amid the desperate efforts of the lead-hearted to snuff the flame once and for all.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:17 PM
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61. It definitley was very beautiful
And as someone else said: she did say "fuck you" but with so many better words and so much poetry.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:35 PM
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12. Wow.
:applause:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:36 PM
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13. Kicked
and nominated. Love it. Wonderful response. Thank you for posting it.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:38 PM
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14. Sharon Olds...


http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/m_r/olds/olds.htm

thanks for the thread, recommending for greatest page
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:38 PM
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15. Bravo, Sharon Olds!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:39 PM
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16. Wow!
What courage, grace, and eloquence! I've always loved her work, and I'm so happy to see her do this!
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:39 PM
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17. Her web site
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:39 PM
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18. OMG! Sink the SHIV, babeee!
That is an awesome letter! Very inspring!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:45 PM
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25. beautiful
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:42 PM
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20. Pickles was a librarian...
I assume she has an appreciation for authors and for decent writing.

Let's just hope she read the letter.

This was truly amazing; so beautifully written.

While reading this, I envisioned every night--Laura, George and the rest of the hitler youth--dining on fine linens and eating a lavish meal--while innocent Iraqi women children and American soldiers are slaughtered.

And for what?

It's really a revolting thought and I understand why this author declined and expressed her reasons for turning down the invitation.

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:22 AM
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108. She's been too busy with the photo-ops.......
in Houston, serving sandwiches and trying to look like she gives a shit. There's precious little time remaining to read letters from someone who hasn't sipped from the bush kool-aid punch bowl.
Why would pickles even want to attend this herself? Poetry? Please. The only poem her husband knows begins,"there once was a girl from Nantucket....". This is the most inarticulate and intellectually lazy administration, ever. Her husband can't put a coherent sentence together, never reads and believes that most Americans are just like him. Maybe they are, because the dumbing down of our society is quite evident. The bush's claiming to support the Arts and Literature is akin to me saying I'm a big supporter of the NRA and PNAC. The truth speaks otherwise.
I'm happy someone had the guts and character to refuse this invitation, but for every one like Sharon there are 50 who'll fall over themselves for the chance to rub elbows with "power". Power like this is not something to be desired, it's a danger to our country and world.
Fuck the bush's. I wouldn't go anywhere near that place either.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:42 PM
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22. Brava
what a wonderful letter. it's too bad that David McCullough or Joseph Ellis didn't feel fit to decline the invite as well.
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:42 PM
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23. "But I could not face the idea of breaking bread with you"
She just slapped Laura - hard. Sharon Olds must have been to a good finishing school & was taught 10001 ways of saying "fuck you" without using the actual phrase.
All my friends and family will find Sharon Olds book of poetry "Strike Sparks" in their Christmas stockings this year.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:18 PM
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62. That would be a nice gift
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:03 PM
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116. That phrase really struck me, too
"Hospitality" should never be refused, right? Except when she who offers it is an apologist for war and chaos. Very powerful.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:43 PM
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24. Bittersweet words, never more true, would that their heart's arrow
inflict mortal damage to the infidels

NoFederales
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:54 PM
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26. Laura banned antiwar poets from Whitehouse
back in 2003.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/07/0318235

First Lady Laura Bush has canceled a White House symposium on poetry because she feared the invited poets would recite poetry against war.
Laura Bush defended her actions citing her freedom of speech.

A spokesperson for the First Lady said, "While Mrs. Bush respects and believes in the right of all Americans to express their opinions, she too has opinions and believes that it would be inappropriate to turn what is intended to be a literary event into a political forum."

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:19 PM
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63. Oh yes
If she really believed in freedom of speech she could've had both pro-war and anti-war poets speak. Duh. :eyes: What a dumbass excuse.
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:18 AM
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107. Laura Bush = Flip-Flopping Pansy!
:evilgrin:
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:08 PM
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28. Here are some of her poems
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #28
37. found this poem there
(have to admit: never heard of her before, so thank you for this link to some poems)

Japanese-American Farmhouse, California, 1942

Everything has been taken that anyone
thought worth taking. The stairs are tilted,
scattered with sycamore leaves curled
like ammonites in inland rock.
Wood shows through the paint on the frame
and the door is open--an empty room,
sunlight on the floor. All that is left
on the porch is the hollow cylinder
of an Albert's Quick Oats cardboard box
and a sewing machine. Its extraterrestrial
head is bowed, its scrolled neck
glistens. I was born, that day, near there,
in wartime, of ignorant people.

Sharon Olds




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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:29 AM
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50. Hm, not bad. nt
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:39 AM
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117. Here is some more of her work
http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/m_r/olds/poems.htm

She wrote an awesome letter, I suppose one should expect a masterpiece from a writing professor. But that is just a beautiful, powerful letter.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:30 PM
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29. Bravo Sharon Olds!!! Must buy her books!
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:33 PM
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30. Nominated
Wow. Just wow.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:49 PM
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32. Mega-courage plus eloquence. Just, simply, WOW!!! -- DU Homepage material.
Peace.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:05 PM
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33. In the current environment, such courage and righteousness is striking!
This letter gave me chills of pleasure! Bravo! When I grow up I wanna be just like Sharon Olds!

:wow: :yourock:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:36 PM
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34. Great that she actually mentions "extraordinary rendition" - the Bushies
have really tried to keep that one supressed.

One of a series of articles on extraordinary rendition by respected British investigative reporter Stephen Grey:
http://mondediplo.com/2005/04/04usatorture
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:41 AM
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47. Yes. The mention of "torture" in this letter really stood out to me
And Mrs. Bush gets to read it.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:44 AM
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52. She may read it, but she will not SEE it. Like her husband, like the rest
of the monstrous Bush family, she is immune to whatever does not please her. These people will never change, but the American people can learn to see the lies and inhuman callousness.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scheer13sep13,0,7935658.column
September 13, 2005 latimes.com : Opinion
ROBERT SCHEER:

Finally fooling none of the people


(snip)

Then there is the fact that the first-responder corps has been vastly depleted by Bush's misadventure in Iraq. Visiting New Orleans on Monday, Bush argued that "it is preposterous to claim that the engagement in Iraq meant there weren't enough troops" to help with hurricane relief. Oh yeah? Tell that to the nearly 35% of Louisiana's Army and Air National Guard forces and 37% of Mississippi's National Guard troops deployed abroad, mostly in Iraq. "Had been at home and not in Iraq, their expertise and capabilities could have been brought to bear," said Army Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum, the National Guard Bureau's chief, referring to the critical first hours of the disaster.

Unfortunately, what the Bush White House is good at when it comes to national security is providing flash over substance, as Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana found out the hard way. After riding in a helicopter with the president and seeing machinery apparently working on the breached 17th Street levee, she was shocked the next day to find the work mysteriously stopped. "Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment," said the senator in a press release.

For far too long, this kind of shenanigan worked well for Bush, allowing him to narrowly win a second term. His administration was asleep at the switch on 9/11 even though "the system was blinking red," according to the then-CIA chief. Bush grabbed a bullhorn at ground zero and remade himself as a "war president" — and suffered no real political damage from the failure to either capture Osama bin Laden or find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

But, as one of this nation's greatest war presidents said, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. With the Iraq war grinding on with no end in sight and the postmortems of the Katrina debacle showing the White House and Homeland Security Department to have been as confused and inept as FEMA itself, Bush's support in several national polls has continued a steady plunge to below 40%. A Newsweek poll found that, for the first time, less than a majority of Americans felt Bush possesses "strong leadership qualities," his signature claim to fame. Boy, have they got that right.

(snip)


This and two other excellent Robert Scheer LA TIimes editorials are posted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x158169
thread title: LA Times/Robert Scheer: Three weeks of insights on Bush and Katrina

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:44 AM
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55. I am still trying to figure out if the levees could've been plugged sooner
That Scheer editorial has the "Potemkin Photo-op" story. My hunch is that they could have placed something in the breaches that would have withstood the rushing current from Lake Ponchartrain. 3000 pound sandbags might have washed away, but rocks or concrete would have stayed.

Seems we got away from Laura.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:54 AM
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58. OH yes, they could have. The Black Hawk helicopter(s) were promised,
but they did not arrive. I wonder who gave the order to divert them?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4523783
thread title: CNN/New Orleans:"Mayor blasts failure to patch levee breeches" and that's {only the beginning}

And there is the persistent story of explosives being used on that levee - ear-witnesses and a a "report" of explosive residue - this is still unconfirmed rumor.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:26 PM
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66. thank you ... eom
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:36 PM
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67. There was talk of using barges to plug the gap
I remember an interview with an Army Corps of Engineers officer the day after the levy break - he said they were considering using a barge for a plug. Sure, it wouldnt fit perfectly, but there were plenty in the canal and it would stop a lot of water.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:11 PM
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85. They plugged a breach with rail cars full of rocks
An earthquake caused the Colorado River to break through a dike from an irrigation project and flood the Salton Sink in Southern California. It flowed for two years until they shot rail cars off the end of a special spur into the gap. The Salton Sink filled and is now the Salton Sea.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:55 PM
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35. kick
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:38 PM
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36. F&*%$! Brilliant. Kicked and nominated.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:02 AM
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38. That's just awesome
Thank you Sharon Olds for telling it like it is.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:31 AM
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40. Too bad this will fall on deaf ears at the WH
And even worse that only a few thousand others will ever read it.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:08 AM
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48. Send copies to CNN who knows?? I have done so.eom
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:22 PM
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64. Keith Olbermann!!
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assclown_bush Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:49 AM
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41. Excellent post. Thank you for sharing it with us. Nominated. n/t
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:14 AM
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42. Oh, I love her....
Eloquent and devastating letter. For anyone who wants to get to know her poetry, I recommend "The Father" and "The Dead and the Living." She's just extraordinary and brave.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:28 AM
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43. Wow. Just wow.
So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it.

Peace.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:24 AM
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44. nominated
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:04 AM
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45. whew -- awesome
that last line is the poetry part...

'So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it.'

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This is poetry that speaks to us but it does NOT speak to the Bush Royal Family. The way Pickles will interpret this letter is:

"Oh dear, a cancellation. Too bad, she'll miss a GREAT occasion and an opportunity to meet US....!?!"
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:27 AM
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46. Good for her!! I'm her newest fan.
She's welcome to march with us on the 24th instead! :thumbsup:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:26 AM
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49. Oh, if only I could get a WH invitation to decline!
Throwing away RNC solicitations isn't really in that league, is it?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:43 AM
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51. So what was Mrs. Bush's response?
I'm sure an upper class lady of such wealth, breeding and taste would have an appropriate reponse to Ms. Olds. But what was Laura's response?
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:46 AM
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53. Wonderful, wonderful!
Brava, Ms. Olds! :toast:
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:55 AM
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54. Excellent.
The ending sums it up for me.

Millions of us cannot stomach it.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 AM
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56. HOLY SHIT! She just sold me a book and I don't read poetry!!
I swear, I am heading straight over to Amazon and seeing if I can find one of her books. YOU GO, YOU POET, YOU!!!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:43 PM
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81. that was my response too: i didnt read much poetry but i do now~~~
i love literature of all kinds but just dont have that time

of course if i read more of it the more i would appreciate it

thank you sharon olds

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:52 AM
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57. Sort of reminds me of "West Wing" espisode where Nobel poet, Laura Dern,
contemplates expressing her true beliefs/politics/poetry at a requested appearance at WH. As I recall, in THAT episode, she's convinced to censor her true views, in order to appear.

This is SUCH a more effective and honest response.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:24 PM
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65. Oh yeah
I remember that. How sad that was. :( This definitley reminds me of that.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:50 AM
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118. She chooses to meet privately with the president
rather than speak out publicly. I've watched the episode several times it seems to me she supports the president, except on this one issue, and is hopeful that speaking with the president might persuade him to change his views.

A personal appeal would be better received by the fictional Democratic president on the show than by the pathetic excuse for a Republican president we really have. It would also bear more weight because on the show she is a supporter, whereas in real life this poet is not among the president's "base." (She gave money to the Dean campaign, so why would he care what she thinks?) In this case, she knows (as we all know) that a personal appeal would have absolutely no effect on the president. At the meeting he'd probably end up calling her "Mom" or something.

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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:56 AM
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59. Democrats in general should adopt this position.
This administration should be shunned, ridiculed and run out of town on a rail.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:15 PM
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60. Wow!
Amazing. She passed up a great opportunity because of what she believes. Very eliquent response as well.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:44 PM
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68. Holy Mother of Pearl! A thing of beauty, this is! WOW!
This woman is DAMNED GOOD! Even her thanks-but-no-thanks is poetry. Sharon Olds is a HERO. I am in awe.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:50 PM
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69. that was freakin AWESOME
pure poetry right here:

"So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it."

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:45 PM
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82. there does not exist a more perfect reply than that
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:57 PM
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70. kick
:kick:
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:05 PM
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71. MAGNIFICENT!
What a heart and soul!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:08 PM
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72. A PARALLEL THREAD ON THIS STORY:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2101111
thread title: to Laura Bush:"I could not face the idea of breaking bread with you"
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:18 PM
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73. Wonderful, brave letter (eom)
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:19 PM
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74. Amazon has several of her books for sale...
Might I suggest as many DU'ers as have $10-15 bucks handy, go out and buy one.
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blue agave Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:22 PM
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75. Thank you Sharon
for describing, so eloquently, the way that I feel. I am buying your book. You deserve nothing less.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:31 PM
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76. The letter is, well, poetic.
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msrbly Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:35 PM
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77. I am ashamed.
I am ashamed at myself. A few years ago I was invited to a gala event at the Field Museum in Chicago for my law school's 125th anniversary and George H. W. Bush was the speaker. I felt exactly how Sharon Olds feels but I didn't have the courage to say "no thank you." I was weak and tempted by the idea of a night on the town. I couldn't figure out a graceful, appropriate but emphatic way to protest. At the dinner when GHWB spoke I left the room. I know I shouldn't have even attended. Not only should I have not attended but I should have made my school aware that I was embarrassed for their choice of speakers. I understand my attendance was a tacit support of the Bush family and their "tyranny and religious chauvinism." For that I apologize. Thank you Sharon Olds for saying "no" when I didn't and should have.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:36 PM
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78. An excellent poet and she obviously has soul,
all the good people in our nation and so few are in power, what a shame.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:39 PM
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79. wow - How easy it is to stand up for what's RIGHT
when you're right.

Amazing reply - Sharon Olds, thank you.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:41 PM
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80. "I could not face the idea of breaking bread with you"
After eloquently describing how important such an event would be to her, Ms. Olds just as eloquently explains why she must decline:

But I could not face the idea of breaking bread with you. I knew that if I sat down to eat with you, it would feel to me as if I were condoning what I see to be the wild, highhanded actions of the Bush Administration.

What kept coming to the fore of my mind was that I would be taking food from the hand of the First Lady who represents the Administration that unleashed this war and that wills its continuation, even to the extent of permitting "extraordinary rendition": flying people to other countries where they will be tortured for us.

So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it.


What I wouldn't do to have half such skill with the written word.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:02 PM
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83. Wow! I have a NEW HERO!!! Bravo...just when hope seems a wisp on
the wind, I summon the courage to read again, and am rewarded with grace and courage in the words of the HERO.

Words are not enough, dear Sharon Olds. But I know you will cherish all of ours, because words are your world.

And tears bear witness, mirrors of our souls.
And we will write -- our stories inked in blood.
For the next wave of dissidents, the true freedom lovers.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:10 PM
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84. Sharon Olds - She puts the hypocrites to shame!
I wish more people acted on their beliefs.

I remember when my representative, Betty McCollum, refused an invitation by Bush to fly with him to Minnesota in Air Force One. She said (paraphrasing): "My mother said you are known by the company you keep."

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:15 PM
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86. She was famously preceded in this by Robert Lowell.
To his enduring credit, the poet refused in 1965 to be associated with the LBJ White House Arts Festival in protest over escalation in Vietnam.

He then went on, with David Dellinger, Jerry Rubin, Chomsky, Mailer and others to lead the 1967 march on the Pentagon.

Like Lowell, Olds knows no decent artist or thinker sings for the supper of imperialists. To do so is to be made an ornament of murder.

So bravo for Olds, whom I've always rather liked as a poet and now like as a person. Democrats who support warmongers like Kerry and Hillary--two essential Bush collaborators without whom the war would be impossible--could learn much from her example.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:45 PM
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90. Ornament of murder...
well said, exactly!

I've never been a poetry reader, and I'm not too well versed in literature, but I do love eloquence, especially when it hits the nail on the head.

I may have to check out Sharon Olds' work.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:20 PM
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115. Thanks
for the kind word.

You can find work by Olds, Lowell, and a host of others online. Try the Academy of American Poets, for starters: www.poets.org.

In this time of war and great dishonesty, I also recommend the antiwar poets of World War I: Siegfried Sassoon, Wilfred Owen.
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:27 PM
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87. Glad she stood up to her values!
Wish more people would!
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:01 AM
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105. YES, WHY DON'T MORE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED BEGINNING WITH
DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND POSTERS??? :sarcasm: CAN YOU SPELL HYPOCRITE?

I think the left just blew it. Rep. Barbara Lee's A Resolution of Inquiry~which is the first step to IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS lost by one vote according to http://www.AfterDowningStreet.org

We could have had The Beginnings of Impeachment Hearings starting last week if we had been paying attention.

I think the Resolution of Inquiry can be submitted again but not for awhile. It occurred to me that FReepers might be right about the left.I did not realize that the RESOLUTION FOR INQUIRY was the beginning of House deliberations on IMPEACHMENT and at the very least would have alerted Americans to be prepared for the Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald's coming indictments - I hope he will send the Federal Marshalls soon to arrest the whole bush crime cartel.

Everyone keeps saying please, please, please let Fitz issue indictments but how much support do you show by writing Congress. ONE VOTE SHORT!!! How often do you visit http://www.AfterDowningStreet.org ? This is where the rubber meets the road not just moaning or praying pretty please with sugar BUT KEEPING UP.

Rep. Conyers was very disappointed that some of the Congresspersons who signed his and Sen. kerry's letter for the Resolution of Inquiry backed out and did not co-sponsor which was necessary for the Impeachment to begin.How often do you at least check Rep. Conyers' blog to see what he is working on and offer your support either by posting on the Blog or by participating in his action items.

No good just saying you love him and having his picture on your icon but why not go now to his main site, also accessible from the Blog and participate as he has requested by SIGNING HIS LETTER ON THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF POOR VOTERS UP TO 10% BY THE ID CARD REQUIRED BY THE BAKER-CARTER COMMISSION ON VOTING.

Conyer's also has a form on his site for you to contact the local media. I cannot figure out why people on this site say they want honest voting or that they love and respect Cindy or Conyers for their courage and by the lack of number of posts just sit on their hands and are the Left's own KEYBOARD BRIGADE, OR YELLOW ELEPHANTS or CHICKEN HAWKS.

I am disgusted. Get INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:32 PM
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88. Brava! Brava! Brava!
Thank you for speaking your mind and not falling lock step behind everyone associated with this evil administration.

You are a real treasure to this country! :applause:



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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:33 PM
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89. "The possibility of finding new readers is exciting for a poet..."
Not to worry, Sharon, you have found a new reader here..and I suspect many, many more at the good old DU.

I will be purchasing a volume or two of your works first thing tomorrow.

Bless you...
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:11 PM
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91. Amazing letter
Wow - just wow.

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:14 PM
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92. Wow ! That slap is gonna leave a welt.
Black and blue for a couple weeks, I hope.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:25 PM
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95. Do you really think the Regime is stinging from the blow?
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 06:26 PM by TechBear_Seattle
She's only an author; it's not like the current occupants of the White House have anything to do with books and words and stuff.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:16 PM
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100. Might not be stinging but it is nice to think of them, now and then,
if only for a moment, being forced to face the fact that two thirds of this country and most of the world HATES THEM -- HATES THEM -- that they are not looked on as the Chosen of God but as psychopathic serial killers. Bwah-HA.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 09:27 AM
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110. True. I wish these people could feel just one millionth of the pain
and suffering that they have brought to this world. They would certainly die from the agony.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:23 PM
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93. Can we all just turn our backs on this fake administration?
I wish all Americans would simply ignore these self-righteous lying bigot murderers.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:25 PM
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94. a great poet
and human.
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DaytonOHDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:22 PM
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96. OMG. All I can say is that was beautiful.
I wish I could express myself half as well as she did. That was absolutely perfect. That makes me want to cry for my country. I guess that is why she is the poet.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:28 PM
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97. I urge everyone...
to try to purchase a book of her poetry this week!
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:08 PM
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98. HUZZAH! Girl bitch-slapped the first lady!
Bet Laura's even more cross-eyed now than ever. I generally assume that President Corky and the bottom feeders surrounding him don't even register most criticism, because they're convinced that they're doing the will of Jee-zuss, but this must've been a major burn. I've got no more sympathy for Laura than for the rest of the cabal. She's complicit. A meteor could take out the whole lot of them and I couldn't muster up tear one. Screw them all.
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Cogito_ergo_Democrat Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:16 PM
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99. Oh, Snap!
"So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it."

Oh, Snap!

Bravo Sharon!!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:50 PM
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101. Sorry, I must disagree
I would have advised to accept the invitiation and use the forums as a platform from which to speak out strongly about the war.

This course will have no affect on bushco; they will find some whore to replace her.

Shame!
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siztnarf Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:15 PM
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102. Down Goes Frazier!
That was some heavy leather. I didn't know poets could hit that hard.
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crizzo5137 Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:29 PM
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103. Im speechless...
"So many Americans who had felt pride in our country now feel anguish and shame, for the current regime of blood, wounds and fire. I thought of the clean linens at your table, the shining knives and the flames of the candles, and I could not stomach it."




all I can think is "Wow"...

That brighted my day
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:48 AM
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106. fucking amazing and of course
well written... after working 12 hours that certainly made my day!
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:21 AM
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109. Madonna Mia! Excellente! n/t
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 09:48 AM
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111. With much "reluctance" Scrub* signs draft bill...
Slight tangental hijack, but I'm too new here to orriginate. And this is the only high profile thread I can find on the war.

I was working through the links and came across this.



Isn't Katrina + Rita (if she hits hard) just the perfect "excuse" for "Scrub"*, with a great wringing of hands and wishes that things were otherwise, to implemet the draft?

Something along the lines of "We NEED those National Guardsmen back home to deal with the disaster and if we are not to let Iraq fall to pieces we have no choice but swallow a bitter pill and implement the draft we have so steadfastly avoided, to take up the slack."

I'm sure KKKRove could find a way to spin this. Or evem more frighteningly see this as a golden opportunity to do something with all those relief sucking scum evacuees, killing several birds with one stone.

Or there's the Clayton's Draft. Inducting evacuees into some kind of Temporary American Reconstruction Bureau Actualizing Bayou Yeomen.

And in a Macheavelean twist they could go the "Compasionate Conservitism" route and maybe avoid/delay implementing the draft by "pointing out" all the "advantages" of signing up: Decent housing; Non-FEMA healthcare for families; Assitance in early (any) return to NOLA or surrounds; An income. Add a strong hint that "cooperation" is a two-way street. Even many of those who evacuated before the storm might be tempted if they lost most of their property in the storm, and they're given the message that signing up get's their case expidited.

Scrub and the other weeds could still turn the devastation of Katrina (and Rita to follow) to their advantage. For the sake of us all, Katrina must take them down, or like the old proverb, "What doesn't kill them, might very well make them stronger."

(Bernie: If any of the above strikes your fancy for a "look into the future" feel free.) I hold no hopes that "exposure" will cause Scrub pause if he decides to go ahead. But enought "Cassandra Moments" might just eventually the message across to the general populace that we do in fact know what we're talking about. Hopefully while there is still time to do something constructive about it.

* Scrub: economically worthless bushland and often all that will grow on environmentally degraded land.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:53 PM
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114. "Temporary American Reconstruction Bureau Actualizing Bayou Yeomen"?
"T.A.R.B.A.B.Y." --- Yikes.
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:06 AM
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112. Wow -- that's good!
I like ALL of it. Someone should email her a link to this discussion. She sure has gained some fans with her excellent letter.

:applause: :woohoo:
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:36 PM
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113. I want to run out and by her books!!
BRAVO on the letter!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:24 PM
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120. kick
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:18 PM
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121. She reminds me of Stephen Sondheim.
Back in 1992, towards the end of Bushdaddy's administration, he refused to accept the National Medal of Arts Award from the NEA, because of the ongoing efforts of the political right to only give grants and awards to works that they approved of, which, in the view of Sondheim and many others, amounted to censorship.

He later accepted the award when it was offered again during the Clinton presidency.
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