Is there a process to recall a president?

[Bruce McAuley]

I got an Email from a woman activist who argues for the recall of George Bush. Now I've signed impeachment petitions, but I've never heard of a recall process for removing a sitting president. Is she wasting her time?

Bruce

[MaineDem]

1. I believe it's called impeachment

I think that's the only option.

[Bruce McAuley]

2. That's what I always thought too...

Maybe I should direct her to impeachbush.com.

Bruce

[SaveElmer]

3. No...there are two ways for a Pres to be removed forcibly

The only way for the President to be removed from office are:

1. Impeachment and Conviction

2. A declaration by the Vice President and majority of the cabinet that he is unable to perform his duties. In this case, if the PResident indicates otherwise, the VP and Cabinet may again certify him unable to perform his duties, and congress will then decide (25th Amendment).

[MaineDem]

4. Ahh, right, like in "Air Force One"

I forgot about that Amendment. Thanks!

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[SaveElmer]

6. Well...I was going for legal means there ...nt

[Bruce McAuley]

7. Would a coup be legal afterward?

I suppose only if it was successful, since the winners write history.

Bruce

[mcscajun]

10. Two from Benjamin Franklin in "1776"

"Treason is a charge invented by winners as an excuse for hanging the losers."

"Rebellion is always legal in the first person, as in "our rebellion"; it is only in the third person, "their rebellion" that it is illegal."

Whether he actually said this is up for debate; many of the lines in that film are actual quotes; most are not. These two are still pretty good, though.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. What do you think are the odds either would happen?

[Bruce McAuley]

9. Would you have bet that an election could be stolen in the USA?

What would have been the odds on that before either of the last two elections?
Could the Supreme Court nullify and render null and void the last two elections in the face of overwhelming evidence(theoretically, of course)?

Bruce

[John Q. Citizen]

11. Nope. They didn't decide the first election, only that a recount

couldn't take place. So that meant george had the most counted votes in Fl. and became Pres.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

14. Right, and that happened because they were in charge.

As they still are today.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

13. Uhm, given that we are not in control, and they were, what are the odds?

You make it sound like the alleged theft was completely by chance. The same people who rigged that are in charge today. So what makes you think they're going to suddenly do an about face and impeach Chimpy?

[Bruce McAuley]

16. The "Rule of Law"? Overwhelming evidence?

My point isn't that they WILL nullify the election, only that they could do so if the rule of law really did hold sway in their eyes, and the evidence was totally overwhelming. This another potential way to remove a sitting president, I think.

Bruce

[John Q. Citizen]

18. Not according to the constitution. Once bush was sworn in, only

the Congress and the Senate can impeach. Or if the VP and a majority of the Cabinet declare him unfit.

We could show up with all the evidence in the world and the Supremes wouldn't have a thing they could do.

If the Supremes hadn't ruled in bush's favor to stop the recount, the likelyhood is that the Florida State Legislature would have voted to seat the bush delegates to the electorial college and he would have taken power that way.

[yellowcanine]

12. True but remember who the VP is.... Rock, meet hard place.

Even if he would do it would we trust his motives? Besides he is as much a cause for the clusterfuck that is the Bush administration as anyone else. I am thinking we are definitely screwed here. Impeachemnt or 25th amendment - Crashcart is prez. Now if we could impeach Cheney first.......

[onenote]

15. no.

There is no recall process. And, in my view, that's a good thing. After any close election, there immediately would be an effort by the losing side to recall the victor. Given the low threshhold for getting it on the ballot, recall elections would constantly be taking place, forcing elected officials to spend their time campaigning rather than governing. Democrats would be as vulnerable, if not moreso, to this kind of tyranny

onenote

[abluelady]

17. Not Recall but perhaps Resignation

If we could get enough coverage this weekend, perhaps he would resign. Or am I just dreamin'.